Houllier: FIFA Technical Study Group to reccomend FIFA/IFAB allow 4th sub for Extra Time


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Associated Press wrote:
FIFA to consider allowing 4th sub in extra time

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — Substitutes have made a big impact at the World Cup, and there could be more of them in four years' time.

FIFA's coaching advisers will propose before the 2018 World Cup kicks off that teams can use a fourth substitute in extra time.

"I think that's an idea that we will put" to football's rules-making panel, Gerard Houllier, a member of the FIFA technical study group, said at a briefing on Wednesday.

Up to three replacements are currently allowed, even when knockout matches go to 30 extra minutes after scores are level in regulation time.

Houllier said changing the rules could see fewer players struggle with muscle problems in high-intensity matches.

"It's a good idea. Only in extra time. Maybe if someone is injured, why not?" the former France coach said.

So far, substitutes have scored 29 goals after coming off the bench in Brazil, already a World Cup record with eight matches left to play. The previous mark was 23 at the 2006 tournament in Germany, FIFA said.

"Substitutes play such an important part because they come with a freshness and attitude," Houllier said. "Nearly a quarter of (all) the goals have been scored in the final 15 minutes of the game."

Those goals by subs have often been game-changing, rather than additional scores in blowout victories.

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar came on late when the Netherlands were losing 1-0 to Mexico in the round of 16 on Sunday. Huntelaar teed up Wesley Sneijders for an 88th-minute leveler and then scored the decisive stoppage-time penalty.

On Monday, Belgium could not beat inspired United States goalkeeper Tim Howard until substitute Romelu Lukaku was sent on in extra time, and quickly set up Kevin De Bruyne for the equalizing goal, then scored the second in a 2-1 win.

The Americans also got a decisive late goal in its opening group match from defensive replacement John Brooks.

FIFA has asked Houllier's group to propose ideas to football's rules panel, which is known as IFAB.

The panel was denied the chance to approve a fourth sub at its annual meeting in March 2012, when FIFA withdrew the proposal.

Houllier suggested it should now be revisited.

"At this World Cup everything is going so quick, so fast, the tempo has been so high," he said. "As a technician we would like to have in extra time the possibility to have another substitution."

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I'm actually kind of surprised that this hasn't become a thing earlier than now.
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afromanGT wrote:
I'm actually kind of surprised that this hasn't become a thing earlier than now.

Yeah same, even more so for the Champions League and other competitions that actually take place in the middle of the season.
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Good idea.

I'd like them to increase subs to five or six for extra time.
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paladisious wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
I'm actually kind of surprised that this hasn't become a thing earlier than now.

Yeah same, even more so for the Champions League and other competitions that actually take place in the middle of the season.

I wonder if there's an increase in muscle and soft tissue injuries during extra time compared to regulation time.
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Decentric wrote:
Good idea.

I'd like them to increase subs to five or six for extra time.


No.

Blokes with big engines, stamina and heart would be nullified by a fresh substitute who can run them down.

Bad move all round. This is exactly why the NRL has become so dire to watch. All the little blokes and big blokes have disappeared and now you have 17 robot clones hitting it up for 4 and then kicking the shit out of it. In days gone by blokes would get tired to wards the end of the game and the little blokes would get more and more into the game.

Fitness and stamina should be rewarded in football. Tiredness means mistakes happen, mistakes mean openings, openings means chances and chances means goals.

With fresh legs running around everywhere in extra time games will just inevitably go to penalties.

I personally don't like it.


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I don't like it for the reasons stated by Munrubenmuz.
I'd rather there be the option for the manager to replace an injured player with a player he has already taken from the field but he can only do it once.
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Munrubenmuz wrote:
Decentric wrote:
Good idea.

I'd like them to increase subs to five or six for extra time.


No.

Blokes with big engines, stamina and heart would be nullified by a fresh substitute who can run them down.

Bad move all round. This is exactly why the NRL has become so dire to watch. All the little blokes and big blokes have disappeared and now you have 17 robot clones hitting it up for 4 and then kicking the shit out of it. In days gone by blokes would get tired to wards the end of the game and the little blokes would get more and more into the game.

Fitness and stamina should be rewarded in football. Tiredness means mistakes happen, mistakes mean openings, openings means chances and chances means goals.

With fresh legs running around everywhere in extra time games will just inevitably go to penalties.

I personally don't like it.


Exactly and this is why I don't watch rugby league any more. If you change the rules the smart coaches will take advantage and the game will change (and I don't believe for the better). I have watched the interchange and video referee destroy rugby league as a spectacle. There are no more Steve Morris, Preston Campbells or Steve Mortimors in the game anymore and they are the types of players I pay money to see.

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I don't think this is a good idea.

It will change the dynamics of the game greatly.

4th sub being used as a penalty specialist goalkeeper could become a common thing. At the moment saving your 3rd sub for 120 minutes is a big risk and arguably you can have a greater impact and increase your chance of winning by having an extra pair of fresh legs on the field instead.

The game is mainly about the starting 11, it shouldn't be about who has the best substitutes.

Edited by axelv: 7/7/2014 12:40:46 PM
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