god make it end


god make it end

Author
Message
TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
All sports must have had a simultaneous brain fade when they decided to send all their finances to the top. 


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

US Soccer lowers NASL to 3rd division

Demba Ba and his group of foreign stars are continuing with their plan to bring professional soccer to San Diego next spring, hiring staff, picking a team name, securing property in North County, building a modular stadium, finding a coach, signing players.

Add this to the list of uncertainties: their league.

The North American Soccer League confirmed reports that U.S. Soccer, the national governing body, has denied its application to retain second division status – sending it to the ignominy of the sport’s third tier and, perhaps, extinction.

The issue is far from settled. The NASL could appeal the designation or re-apply before next season. Or, making good on previous threats, it could file an anti-trust lawsuit against the federation. Or it could try to make a go of it as a third-division league.

But that’s if there are enough teams still around.

The NASL went from 12 to eight teams in 2017, then added two for 2018 in San Diego and Orange County. That number could shrink, though, if FC Edmonton joins a new Canadian pro league as expected. North Carolina FC has been strongly linked with the second-division United Soccer League, and several other clubs are said to be investigating that route as well. Jacksonville, Puerto Rico and San Francisco reportedly are in financial peril.

“It’s too early for me to even comment on it at any kind of educated level,” said Bob Watkins, the president of the nameless San Diego club announced in late June. “I’m still trying to absorb what all this means, if it means anything.

“It’s not going to deter us. Our investors are committed, Demba and the boys are all committed. We’re just going to move on and bring (pro) soccer to San Diego … I’m assuming at some point it will become critical decision time, but right now there’s no critical decision that needs to be made.”

The NASL, which has no relation to the league of the same name from the 1970s and early ’80s, began in 2011 as an unaffiliated second division beneath Major League Soccer. In January, U.S. Soccer granted both the NASL and USL provisional second-tier status renewable each year if they met certain standards.

One of them is having 12 teams spread across different time zones, and NASL has failed to maintain that number when two teams joined USL and two others folded after the 2016 season. The New York Cosmos, the league’s flagship franchise, nearly folded as well before Rocco Commisso, the founder and CEO of cable TV giant Mediacom, bought them.

At the time, he told media in New York: “I wasn’t coming in if it wasn’t Division II, and without me I don’t know it could have survived.”

Miami FC, the league’s best team this season, is owned by someone even richer: Italian billionaire Riccardo Silva. Earlier this year, he pitched MLS on a lucrative TV rights deal if the league agreed to the system of promotion and relegation used in the rest of the soccer world, which would essentially dismantle MLS’s single-entity concept where the league owns the players and teams. MLS declined and instead pressed forward with plans to expand from 24 to 28 teams – 10 more than the first division in most countries.

Some, then, will view the move by U.S. Soccer, which has a cozy relationship with MLS and by extension USL, as a way to protect its closed-market system. MLS commissioner Don Garber sits on U.S. Soccer’s Board of Directors. And MLS franchises own or have affiliations with 22 of the USL’s 30 clubs.

“The NASL is disappointed in the decision,” the league said in a statement Tuesday, “and does not believe that the federation acted in the best interest of the sport. U.S. Soccer’s decision negatively affects many stakeholders in soccer: fans, players, coaches, referees, business partners, and the NASL club owners who have invested tens of millions of dollars promoting the sport.”

In June, just days after the City Council pushed the SoccerCity ballot measure that hinges on acquiring an MLS expansion franchise to November 2018, the group headed by Ba and three other European stars unveiled their NASL plans for San Diego. The team is scheduled to play at USD’s Torero Stadium this spring before moving into its own North County stadium in August.

Watkins said that timetable is still valid. He has spent time in Europe evaluating different designs, and the club is deciding between “three or four sites” to place a modular stadium that would be constructed elsewhere and shipped here for assembly.

They had hoped to announce a team name by now, but Watkins said four choices already have been scrapped due to intellectual property conflicts. That includes Suenos (Dream in Spanish), which he said is trademarked in the United States by Spain’s FC Barcelona.

Finding a league may be another item on the to-do list if the NASL doesn’t survive U.S. Soccer’s decision.

For now, it doesn’t appear USL, which has a restrictive system of player movement similar to MLS, is an option.

“We made that decision last year,” Watkins said. “We had an opportunity (to join USL), and our ownership group liked the free enterprise system that the NASL offered. For the time being, that’s what we’re going to continue to do – see if we can find a way forward to make this thing work. We like the idea that you own your own property rights, you own your own facility, you own your own players, you own everything.

“And you’re working with people who think the same way.”

US Soccer lowers NASL to 3rd division - The San Diego Union-Tribune


Edited
7 Years Ago by scott21
aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

More divisions, less unity? Sorting out the US soccer pyramid

US soccer pyramid is more like a mosaic today

The past two weeks have seen at least two major developments in the ever-changing profile of the US soccer pyramid. First, there was the introduction of a new Division III league into the men’s side of that pyramid. NISA is due to debut in 2019. Now comes news that one of the two existing Division II men’s leagues, the NASL, may be recategorized by the US Soccer Federation as Division III for 2018. Just a few months ago, USL, the other current Division II men’s league, had begun to lay the foundations for its own Division III to begin play in 2019

Presently in the US, and more broadly in North America, there are two Division II men’s leagues. There is also one organization which brings together the several existing amateur leagues for men and for women. Probably the most familiar amongst that latter group are NPSL and the WPSL respectively. The MLS and the NWSL are, again respectively, hypothetically at the tip of the US/North American pyramid. All in all it is a bit of a mess. The “pyramid” sometimes looks a good deal more like a patchwork mosaic.

Why is the pyramid crumbling?

The pyramid is not so much crumbling as it is tilting on the shifting sands upon which it was built. The history of soccer in the US and Canada sowed the seeds of the current opportunities a long time ago.

Soccer has always been a bit of crapshoot in North America. Canadians are as jingoistic about ice hockey as sports fans in the USA are about (North American) football and baseball. By the time professional soccer as a modern game made inroads into the US and Canada those nations’ spectating publics had some entrenched ideas about sports and sports leagues.

Among the strongest of those were the ideas of teams, representing cities, each with a unique mascot, playing a regular season that leads to a playoff. A “world championship” trophy awarded to the winners.

All of those preconceptions violated the practice of pro soccer in the two global regions where it is the most successful: South America and Europe. Yet that formula has generally always been followed whenever soccer leagues have been formed in the US and Canada.

Buyer’s remorse

So it was with the original NASL and, later, the MLS. Perhaps surprisingly MLS, the latest tip of the men’s pyramid, has a history nearly as long as that of England’s Premier League. Launched in the early 1990’s the PL is mainly a marketing device. It has been unbelievably successful in that way almost ever since. The PL package is distributed on English language cable television worldwide. The “new” league form is so profitable and so well-received that many top-flight domestic leagues have since sought to emulate it.

MLS is a little like the PL in that it too is a single entity. The major difference is that the familiar PL clubs existed before the league itself did. MLS clubs are franchises. They are granted licenses for the express purpose of participating in the league.

Another difference is that MLS—and USL as well—retains the familiar North American formula of regular season followed by playoffs. For an increasingly sophisticated and devoted fan base, however, that is proving to be less than satisfactory. The current generation of fans were raised watching the PL and UEFA’s Champions League. Their expectations are far different from previous generations. The “world championship” playoff is gone. In its place is the expectation and desire for a system of relegation and promotion.

No stated end, no discernible end state

The relegation/promotion system has a couple of distinct advantages over other forms. First, it makes each game on the schedule important. Each match directly impacts the championship standings. It becomes more important for supporters to see as many matches as they are able. It also brings more clubs into the picture with regard to having an opportunity to play in the higher flights. Those are the good things about rel/pro. It does have its downsides as well.

In any event it has never been part of the foundation of the game in North America. That omission is now responsible for the US soccer pyramid’s fractured state. The original structure was never designed to support the type and level of fan interest that it is being asked to. A renovation is in order.

The question of what final form the thing ought to take has to be answered before any bricks get mortared into place. Apparently the US Soccer Foundation either doesn’t want to answer that question—publicly anyway—or they are unable to do so. Fans can only guess as to why the second of those might be the case. If they drag their feet too long, though, someone else will answer it whether that is the federation’s desire or not.

In that event, we may all find the US soccer pyramid is not so much crumbling as flopped over on its point.

More divisions, less unity? Sorting out the US soccer pyramid


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
Toronto will be trying to seal a place in Super League when they host Barrow in a League 1 clash.
Source: 
AAP
1 HOUR AGO 

The champagne is on ice as Toronto seek to take the next step to Super League.

It will be party time at the Lamport Stadium on Saturday if the Wolfpack gain the win which would seal the League 1 title and automatic promotion to the Championship at the first attempt.

Barrow, two points behind with two rounds to go, are standing in their way but the League 1 trophy is already in Canada, ready to be presented by the sponsors in front of a crowd expected to exceed their previous best of 7522.

Paul Rowley's side have suffered a blip in the Super 8s, losing to York and drawing with Keighley, but they are unbeaten at the Lamport Stadium, where they crushed Barrow 70-2 in May.

The Raiders were understrength that day due to visa issues and they have once more been only able to take 16 players to North America.

If the unthinkable happens, the Wolfpack have the cushion of a further home game - against Doncaster next Saturday - to wrap up the title.

Toronto close to Super League promotion | SBS News


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Over 7.5k in Toronto. Fuck me thats great. 


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Hull KR promotion better than winning Grand Final says emotional Shaun Lunt

The Rovers captain contrasts the emotions to a year ago as KR's goal is achieved

Hull KR's Shaun Lunt with son after his side regained their Super League place.
Hull KR's Shaun Lunt with son after his side regained their Super League place.

Walking off the pitch following relegation last year in the Million Pound Game Shaun Lunt’s own personal anguish was amplified when he saw the tears streaming down the face of his son.

The enormity of what it meant to so many people washed over him, leaving behind an impact that meant under no circumstances would he walk away from the challenge of taking Hull KR back up again.

From agony to ecstasy, with Widnes Vikings beaten and a return to Super League assured, Lunt again greeted his son. This time, no tears, just unbridled joy as he held him aloft under the blue skies which had arrived to greet the Robins’ flight to the top division.

“This is a massive contrast from this ecstasy to what we felt this time last year. It’s unbelievable. I couldn’t be more proud of any of those boys,” explained Lunt, revelling in the achievement.

And what an achievement. Unbeaten with five wins from five games in the Super League Qualifiers. It may not have always been pretty in this fierce battle for a place at the top table, but earning a seat was what counted, not the style in which it was done.

“We knew the significance of it if Warrington won. We got the call on 65 minutes that they had,” explains Lunt.

“If Jamie (Ellis) had kicked that goal at the end it would have made it a whole lot easier but that’s how we’ve played all year; dogged performances. It wasn’t pretty but who cares? We won and we’re up.”

Hull KR are back in Super League
Hull KR are back in Super League

And so, how big an achievement is it for Lunt personally? Back in February with his long-term future committed to the club the Rovers captain said promotion would be his greatest achievement. Does the former Grand Final winner stand by that?

“Yes 100 per cent. The feeling today is better than after winning the Grand Final. I 100 per cent standby that,” says Lunt in a manner that leaves no room for debate.

“It was hard. Really hard. The nerves were there they have been all season. We’ve not made it easy for ourselves but who cares now?

ADVERTISEMENT

“Even if we didn’t win this game and we didn’t go up we’re still better club-wise. Our foundations and our structures are a lot more solid compared to then.

“The club has given us a foundation to build on but Tim (Sheens) as a coach has been just unbelievable. His man-management is second to none and he is by far the best coach I’ve worked under so far.

“Sheensy has been absolutely huge and for him to take us up to Super League in his 700th game is absolutely immense. There’s no words out there I can use to describe how good he’s been and what a bloke he is. He’s phenomenal.”

WE'RE BACK! Hull KR celebrate promotion.
WE'RE BACK! Hull KR celebrate promotion. 

Having taken in the celebrations at the ground, in town after and yesterday with his family, Lunt knows the hard work is just beginning with keeping Rovers in Super League next season now the focus.

“The hard work’s to be done; that was easy compared to next year,” added Lunt.

“It gets harder now but we’ll enjoy this moment.”

Hull KR promotion better than winning Grand Final says emotional Shaun Lunt - Hull Daily Mail


bohemia
bohemia
World Class
World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 8.2K, Visits: 0
The Football League announces the new media rights deal for the second division. Something Australia doesn't need because it's different.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41239042

600 million pounds for 5 years, up 34% on previous deal.
aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Rod Kafer says Indo-Pacific championships could pave way for tiered Super Rugby system

RUGBY
Rod Kafer says the Indo-Pacific competition could see the commencement of a tiered system, which involves Super Rugby.
Rod Kafer says the Indo-Pacific competition could see the commencement of a tiered system, which involves Super Rugby.Source: AAP

AUSTRALIA’S national coaching director Rod Kafer has thrown his support behind Andrew Forrest’s Indo-Pacific competition, believing it could develop into a competitive competition that sits below Super Rugby.

Last week, billionaire mining magnate and Western Force backer Forrest announced plans to create a new six-team competition, which includes the Force.

The announcement came one hour after the NSW Supreme Court dismissed the Force’s appeal that they were unlawfully dumped by the Australian Rugby Union.

Forrest is expected to expand upon last Tuesday’s announcement on Wednesday.

But Kafer said that the idea had merit and could be the first step in creating a tiered system in Australia.

“If there was another competition underpinning it, sitting in the same region … all of a sudden we may well find ourselves with a genuine competitive comp that might sit under Super Rugby and it might be the promotion and relegation opportunity,” Kafer told Fox Sports.

“So logically it would make sense to embrace that as well as we can.

“It’s clear that there’s an opportunity and some appetite out there for change, and if that change came with a new competition it just makes sense to integrate it to what we’re doing to give rugby a little bit more depth.”

ARU must support NRC in WA

ARU must support NRC in WA

2:41

Any competition involving the Force would, however, likely undermine the competitiveness of the four remaining Australian franchises in Super Rugby.

One of the main reasons the ARU fought so hard to return to four teams was to improve the overall winning percentages of their Super Rugby franchises, which have declined on average with expansion.

While Australia have had two Super Rugby winners since expanding to five franchises, Australia’s Super Rugby franchises have won just three of their past 52 matches against New Zealand opposition since 2016.

The ARU is hoping that improved results at Super Rugby will give them a stronger foothold when the respective bodies meet to draw up the future of the competition.

Billionaire and philanthropist Andrew Forrest is flanked by Western Force players during a media conference at Rugby WA Headquarters in Perth.
Billionaire and philanthropist Andrew Forrest is flanked by Western Force players during a media conference at Rugby WA Headquarters in Perth.Source: AAP

Forrest met with key ARU officials last weekend, as well as Wallabies coach Michael Cheika, to discuss some of the details of the new competition.

The ARU has yet to publicly back the competition, but are optimistic that Forrest will help finance and expand the National Rugby Championship.

While the ARU went to extraordinary lengths to cull the Force ahead of the 2018 season — in the process declining a $50 million offer from Forrest to spare them the axe — they have reiterated their commitment to Perth Spirit, who took out last year’s NRC competition.

Rod Kafer says the ARU must provide their unequivocal support to the Perth Spirit in the NRC.
Rod Kafer says the ARU must provide their unequivocal support to the Perth Spirit in the NRC.Source: Getty Images

Kafer said that the NRC held a vitally important role in providing a pathway for local talent to the national side and encouraged the ARU to provide its unequivocal support to the Spirit going forward.

“That (the NRC) provides a very logical pathway for the Perth local players and I think it’s absolutely critical that we continue to invest in the game in Perth,” Kafer said.

“I’d like to see it get the unequivocal support going forward for the next couple of years, so at least then players in Perth and the pathway in Perth have a very clear opportunity into professional rugby.

“And once you get in the NRC we’ve seen players selected for the Wallabies directly out of the NRC, so it is a real platform to create that pathway and growth for rugby in Perth.”
Video: Indo-Pacific championships could pave way for tiered Super Rugby competition, says Rod Kafer | Fox Sports


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

ARE THE LOWER DIVISIONS PLAYING A LOSING GAME?

soccer-field-corner

By J Hutcherson (Sep 12, 2017) US Soccer Players - The immediate question is which lower divisions? In England, the lower divisions are chasing a Premier League dream. Even the nice and cuddly clubs dedicated to their local communities and in no position to chase expensive by their standards moves. They're all looking at the pyramid and wondering "what if?". None of them are going to happily self relegate rather than take the Premier League's money. There's no such thing as "thanks but no thanks" in that competitive environment.

In Scotland, the lower divisions are a problem with clubs needing to meet minimums for the topflight. The Scottish Premier League doesn't hold the promise of ridiculous riches. Whether or not playing for 2nd or 3rd in a league dominated by one club now and two clubs historically holds much allure is an open question.

Meanwhile, across the North Sea there are Dutch clubs that have turned down promotion from amateur to the professional level. That became such a trend that the Dutch leagues restructured the third division and made promotion mandatory. It's worth pointing out that their topflight has one club playing in a stadium with a listed capacity of 4500 and another at 8k. Those wouldn't be out of place in the fourth division.

In North America, the only promotion from the lower divisions to MLS is economic. Teams from the NASL and USL chase that dream, needing acceptance as an expansion franchise and writing a significant check. In Mexico, winning promotion takes multiple years and occasionally ends up with the promoted team getting bought out by the relegated team.

When I lived in the Netherlands, I used to spend Friday nights going to second division games. It was normally easy to tell which teams were up for promotion and those that were treating it as a happy surprise. The bulk of that league was in the happy surprise category, with venues and attendances that wouldn't impress anybody. There's not a lot of difference between watching Almere City in the Eerste Divisie and NCFC in the NASL. Well, except NCFC has a nicer stadium.

It's Almere City that could put together a run and end up in the topflight based on results. Whether or not that's good for them isn't a straightforward question. Excelsior, the team that plays in the smallest stadium in the Eredivisie, isn't a guaranteed sellout. They're one of three topflight clubs in Rotterdam, playing in the shadow of Sparta much less Feyenoord. They're in their third season of welcoming the best teams in the Netherlands to the Van Donge & De Roo Stadion.

For NCFC, it's wooing MLS. They're one of a dozen cities currently involved in that process. For the existing teams, it means playing out a schedule in a minor league while pointing to a different future. NCFC would be in a new stadium in a different city should their expansion plans receive MLS approval. Like with the other lower division teams moving up through an expansion fee, it means keeping a name but radically altering the scope.

If you're an existing MLS team, there's more than the expansion fee in play. For all the justified criticism of MLS and the expansion fee model, it adds stability. That's a concept in MLS that the league can and will abuse. Stability doesn't have to mean closing the door on competition. It doesn't have to mean single-entity. It doesn't even have to mean flattering the idea of promotion and relegation. It means making the smart business move as a best effort to avoid instability.

Without publicly releasing their financial information, trying to figure out MLS economics means dealing with rumors and hearsay. We don't know from the outside how stable the league really is. We don't know what clubs make money or how much. We don't know the league's debt. That means we also don't know how much increasing the expansion fee matters. It also means we don't know what these expansion teams are really buying into.

The willingness of successful expansion bids to keep writing those checks suggests it's worth it to them at least in the moment. The same seems true for municipalities backing those bids with money for stadiums. Then again, there's a cavalcade of examples in North American pro sports where pursuit of major and minor league sports and the municipal financing that goes with it gets ahead of drawing power and long term viability.

In real terms, that works against the ideal of sporting success and for economic promotion. The only league where promotion really work across multiple levels is England's. You could sub in any of the other European big leagues in place of that Scotland example. That includes the Bundesliga, where the third division doesn't do enough to revitalize the second and winning promotion to the topflight can create its own problems for clubs. Hannover 96 is already playing that out this season in a league that doesn't operate with Premier League-style TV money.

Securing the economics might be the game every soccer league in the world is currently playing. Part of that has to be a rearguard movement to make sure the weaker clubs don't pull down the overall level of the competition.

It wasn't all that long ago that it was the English lower divisions rich on a TV deal that went away overnight and finding themselves in desperate situations. That led to talk of an ideal English league setup where the divisions reflected the economic realities of their member clubs. The finances righted themselves, though that glosses over what some clubs went through. The theory though still has resonance across world soccer.

What we're talking about is best effort. The best version of a competition that should lead to the best product on the field. That's still what these leagues are selling and trying to sell. It's not enough to focus solely on the mechanism of the competition. A league that regularly moves teams in and out of the topflight isn't a stable league. It's a top heavy league with obligations to too many former members. That's easy to disrupt, especially in an era of inflated broadcast fees and a focus on a handful of internationally marketable clubs.

That's not the sporting ideal, but that's also not the reality anywhere in world soccer. The point of over two decades of super league rumors in Europe is control of selection. There's no reason to allow underfinanced teams a way in. Why would any league think differently?

Are the lower divisions playing a losing game? | US Soccer Players


Pyramid Timmy
Pyramid Timmy
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.3K, Visits: 0

Miami FC sues U.S. Soccer, FIFA. Wants promotion and relegation rules in U.S.

AUGUST 03, 2017 9:13 PM


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Good on em. And it seems to be a common theme.


aufc_ole
aufc_ole
World Class
World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)World Class (7K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 7K, Visits: 0
Get around em
MarkfromCroydon
MarkfromCroydon
Semi-Pro
Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)Semi-Pro (1.8K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 1.7K, Visits: 0
I see some lawyers making good money for bad work. It's a pretty clear cut open and shut case.
The statutes do NOT require pro/rel, and really, they don't even say it's the preference.

They say, in part.
"A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit. A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.2 In addition to qualification on sporting merit, a club’s participationin a domestic league championship may be subject to other criteria within the scope of the licensing procedure, whereby the emphasisis on sporting, infrastructural, administrative, legal and financial considerations. Licensing decisions must be able to be examinedby the Member’s body of appeal."

There's a few KEY words. They are; shall, principally, or, remaining . Then you look at the second branch, which gives an absolutely clear 'get out' clause that allows a league to not have pro or rel.


It seems the real reason the statute is worded that way is to prevent manipulation of pro/rel. Here's a few examples of what it is trying to prevent.
Company A owns Team Purple. Team Purple finishes last in the top division, and is relegated. Prior to the start of the next season Company A buys the licence off Company B who owns Team Black. Company B then relocates Team Black to Team Purples stadium and calls them "Team Purple", and plays in the top division. They allow the 'old' team purple to play at team blacks stadium in team blacks colours and called..... yes.. Team Black.

Company C owns Team Blue, Team Red, Team Yellow and Team Green. Company C runs two in the top division and two in the second division and then chooses which teams will wear which colours should one get relegated. eg. popular Team Blue finishes last and is relegated, but poorly supported Team Red that finishes top of Division 2  is promoted, but plays the next season in Blue colours at Team Blues stadium and under Team Blues name.
That would be a lucrative business in some poorer nations.

The only case that can be made is that there SHOULD be a set of criteria to allow pro/rel. Even then, that criteria may include things that most clubs could not achieve. For example in the U.S situation, promotion to MLS could legitimately require a 'buy in' fee of $100 million or whatever for the lower division champion, and that would be ENTIRELY within the statutes. They also could for example allow the champion of a 4th division regional league to 'jump over' all other comers on payment of a fee.


Actually, I probably could've just used real club names to make the point.
Like I said, good money for a poorly thought out action.


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

FIFA, AFC officials to prepare draft for merger of I-league and ISL

I-League and Indian Super League is scheduled to run simultaneously this season with the plan to merge the two league in due time.

IANS | Posted by Ritayan Basu
September 13, 2017 | UPDATED 21:02 IST
Reuters PhotoReuters Photo

HIGHLIGHTS

  • 1
    Bengaluru FC jumped ship and will play in ISL season 4.
  • 2
    Mohun Bagan and East Bengal refused to pay a franchise fee.
  • 3
    The draft is expected to be ready by the end of October or the beginning of November.

After meeting all state associations and clubs across the country, FIFA and AFC officials will do market research and then prepare a draft on the merger of the I-League and the Indian Super League, Utpal Ganguli, Indian Football Association (IFA) secretary said on Wednesday.

A two-member team comprising of Nic Coward, a consultant to FIFA, and Alex Phillips, Head of AFC-UEFA Affairs, met IFA officials at a hotel in the city.

They are here to chart a roadmap for Indian football which currently has the I-League and the Indian Super League (ISL) scheduled to run simultaneously this season.

"We had a long meeting. They heard us out. They will do market research and will make a draft after that based on the research. They will then most likely meet all stakeholders and submit a report to the AIFF (All Indian Football Federation) executive committee after that," Ganguli told reporters here.

Besides Ganguli, AIFF senior vice-president and IFA president Subrata Dutta was also present in the meeting.

I-League Photo

 

The FIFA and AFC officials are slated to meet East Bengal, Mohun Bagan and Mohammedan Sporting clubs on Thursday.

"I said heritage clubs should not be kept in the same bracket as franchise clubs. As they have taken the sport to a certain level where sponsors started coming, they should be given that respect," Ganguli said.

"I said they should be invited and not asked for franchise fee when there is one league in the country," he added.

Mohun Bagan and East Bengal refused to pay a franchise fee when they had the chance of joining the ISL bandwagon earlier this year. Former I-League champions Bengaluru FC jumped ship and will be playing in the cash-rich league.

"I hope the decision will be in our favour but if otherwise we will take necessary steps. They (FIFA and AFC officials) recognised the issue. They have not said anything specific though," Ganguli said.

The draft is expected to be ready by the end of October or the beginning of November.

FIFA, AFC officials to prepare draft for merger of I-league and ISL : Football, News - India Today


bohemia
bohemia
World Class
World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)World Class (8.6K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 8.2K, Visits: 0
MarkfromCroydon - 13 Sep 2017 3:07 PM

It seems the real reason the statute is worded that way is to prevent manipulation of pro/rel. Here's a few examples of what it is trying to prevent.
Company A owns Team Purple. Team Purple finishes last in the top division, and is relegated. Prior to the start of the next season Company A buys the licence off Company B who owns Team Black. Company B then relocates Team Black to Team Purples stadium and calls them "Team Purple", and plays in the top division. They allow the 'old' team purple to play at team blacks stadium in team blacks colours and called..... yes.. Team Black.


So Mexico basically.
aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Peter Smith: Super-8s format flaws offset by promotion/relegation outcome

Danny McGuire.
Danny McGuire.
0
HAVE YOUR SAY

THERE ARE serious flaws with the Super-8s format, but for two successive years it has led to a team being promoted from the Kingstone Press Championship and that is a good thing.

Leigh Centurions have had a tough year and might find themselves back in the second tier in less than a month’s time, but on the whole their involvement has been good for Super League.

Matt Diskin.

Matt Diskin.

Unlike their previous spell in the highest division, they have been competitive, beaten some top sides – including Wigan – and have decent support, both at home and away.

Hull KR were unfortunate to be relegated last year and Super League missed them. Despite all the scaremongering of a year ago about how damaging relegation would be, the club and fans kept their nerve.

Rovers retained a Super League squad and the supporters stayed loyal. Their away following provided valuable income for their rivals and Rovers will re-enter Super League in probably a stronger state than when they left.

Rovers will boost the average attendance in Super League, the Magic Weekend will benefit and their rivalry with Hull FC adds extra spice to the competition.

Their promotion also means Danny McGuire, who is joining them on a two-year contract, will play against Leeds Rhinos next season.

There is still a chance a second Championship club, London Broncos, could be promoted, but it is likely the Million Pound Game will be another all-Super League affair.

Hull KR’s promotion isn’t ideal for the Championship, which is losing its best-supported club. With Bradford Bulls being relegated to League One, the crowd at next year’s Summer Bash could look very thin.

The nightmare scenario for the Championship would be Catalans Dragons dropping down. Toronto Wolfpack have already secured promotion from League One and so potentially the second tier next year could include Catalans, Toulouse Olympique, London Broncos and Toronto, plus possibly Barrow Raiders.

For the Yorkshire and Lancashire-based teams that will amount to a lot of travelling, with not a huge number of away fans coming through the turnstiles.

Batley Bulldogs coach Matt Diskin has already raised concerns.

His team have visited Toulouse three times so far this season with possibly another trip yet to come in the Shield final.

For part-time players that is a massive and possible unrealistic commitment. Clubs in League One this year have sometimes struggled to raise a side for the trip to Canada and the amount of foreign travel for semi-professional teams is becoming an issue.

That may eventually be resolved by them all securing a place in Super League, but that is a few years down the track. That said, Toronto have been a breath of fresh air. Their involvement hasn’t been universally welcomed, but they have provided much-needed positive publicity and introduced the sport to a new audience. Last week’s win over Barrow which clinched the League One title was watched by 7,972 fans. In Canada.

They may not have an away support, but their games over here tend to attract neutral fans and that also benefits the teams they are playing against.

They have romped through the third division this term, but will find it tougher in the Championship when they will come up against some full-time sides who will not be intimidated by them.

It will be interesting to see if Canadian fans stay loyal to a team that doesn’t win every week, but Wolfpack are making their home games an event – rather than just a rugby league match – and that is the right approach.

As for the flaws in the format? Castleford Tigers have beaten Leeds Rhinos four times in Super League/Super-8s this year and are 12 points ahead of them on the table, yet the teams have an equal chance – home advantage in a sudden-death semi-final – of reaching Old Trafford.

Tigers are now on an eight-game winning run against Leeds.

There is no indication Rhinos are capable of ending that sequence any time soon, but it’s worth remembering how many times Leeds had beaten Hull before July’s Ladbrokes Challenge Cup semi-final.

Peter Smith: Super-8s format flaws offset by promotion/relegation outcome - Yorkshire Evening Post


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

NASL vs MLS: owner speaks on US Soccer lawsuit

04 October at 16:15

Last month, the United States Soccer Federation (USSF) was rocked by a lawsuit from the second-division North American Soccer League (NASL). The league alleges collusion between the USSF, Major League Soccer (MLS), and another second division league - the United Soccer League (USL).

The USSF controversially decided to strip NASL of their second division status last month, which has sparked the legal battle. Spearheading the NASL’s lawsuit is Riccardo Silva, owner of Miami FC, and Rocco Commissio, owner of the New York Cosmos.

The Miami FC owner – whose partner is Paolo Maldini, and manager is Alessandro Nesta – spoke to La Gazzetta dello Sport in Italy about his rationale for the lawsuit, and why he thinks creating a promotion/relegation structure in the United States is critical.

The media magnate, Silva, said, “This is not a war, only a peaceful request to know if what is being played in the US is football or something different. I want to know the reason why all the world championships are set by promotion and relegation, while this is the only country that does not comply with the FIFA statute. In short, I demand clarity.”

"We are the proof of this injustice. In the summer we beat and eliminated two of the best MlS teams in the National Cup, the US Open Cup (Orlando and Atlanta). We won the Spring title with 10 points, and we are heading to the fall. But as a reward by the federation we are retired with the whole League. There are political reasons behind it. this is a clear retaliation.”

Silva used the New York Cosmos as an example of his accusations of collusion. "The Cosmos have won the championship last season, but this year Minnesota United has gone to MLS. Minnesota United that has pledged 100 million for promotion. What moral rule is this? I put it on the same level as the one who pays to win a game. That's why I'm sure Fifa, who has started with Infantino a new course of transparency, will intervene to fix the anomaly.”

"The United States for its dedication, wealth and quality they should fight with the top teams in the world. But without competitiveness, it will not improve. Why in the United States did not you ever find a top class like Leo Messi? Why their Fifa ranking has been falling in recent years (now number 28, but was 14th in 2013)? The success of a movement is born from the bottom.”

He concluded with a powerful statement. “Nobody has incentives to invest in smaller teams unless there is a guarantee that in the event of a win in the field will be eligible for promotion."

NASL vs MLS: owner speaks on US Soccer lawsuit | English News | Calciomercato.com


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
pro rel format from UEFA for international teams




Uefa unveils format for new Nations League to start in September 2018

 55 European national teams split into four groups based on rankings 
 Competition to replace most friendlies will play part in Euro 2020 qualifying
Wembley
 A sparse crowd at a Wembley friendly between England and Norway in 2014. Uefa hopes introducing more competitive matches between similarly ranked teams will help revive international football. Photograph: Stephen Pond - The FA/The FA via Getty Images

Uefa has confirmed which teams are in each of the four leagues for the inaugural Nations League, European football’s new international competition intended to replace most friendlies.

Based on the coefficient rankings after the group stages of the European qualifiers for Russia 2018, England, ranked sixth, are in League A, while Wales (14th), the Republic of Ireland (19th) and Northern Ireland (21st) are in League B, and Scotland (27th) are in League C. All 55 Uefa nations are assigned to a league, with 12 teams in A and B, 15 in C and 16 in D.

At a draw in Lausanne on 24 January, each league will then be divided into four groups of either three or four nations and they will play each other home and away from September to November next year. A promotion and relegation system will operate between the leagues – four up, four down – and the second edition of the competition is scheduled to start in September 2020.

The winners will be decided at a tournament between the nations that finish top of the four League A groups in June 2019, with semi-finals, a third-place match and a final to be held in one of the finalist countries.

Uefa has introduced the competition to revive international football with more competitive matches and to give countries more chances to play against teams of a comparable standard. But many fans, players and pundits have expressed some confusion over the idea, particularly as it will run alongside qualifying for the 2020 European Championship.

That process will now begin in March 2019, with countries split into 10 groups of five or six, and the top two teams in each group qualifying for the finals. The major change, however, is that the final four places will be decided via play-offs between the winners of the 16 Nations League groups in 2018.

Each league – A to D – will have its own play-off competition with single-leg semi-finals and a final to decide who wins the place. The draw for those play-offs will take place in November 2019 and the play-offs themselves will occur in March 2020.

If the winners of a Nations League group have already qualified for Euro 2020 via the qualifying groups, their place in the play-off will go to the next best team in their Nations League group that has not secured a place. If a league still does not have enough teams for a play-off, as is entirely possible for League A, the places will be filled by the best-ranked teams from the league below.

Uefa Nations League sections

League A Germany, Portugal, Belgium, Spain, France, England, Switzerland, Italy, Poland, Iceland, Croatia, Holland.

League B Austria, Wales, Russia, Slovakia, Sweden, Ukraine, Republic of Ireland, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Northern Ireland, Denmark, Czech Republic, Turkey.

League C Hungary, Romania, Scotland, Slovenia, Greece, Serbia, Albania, Norway, Montenegro, Israel, Bulgaria, Finland, Cyprus, Estonia, Lithuania.

League D Azerbaijan, Macedonia, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Latvia, Faroe Islands, Luxembourg, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Malta, Andorra, Kosovo, San Marino, Gibraltar.

Uefa unveils format for new Nations League to start in September 2018 | Football | The Guardian


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Aspiring New York rugby league club will target Titans star Jarryd Hayne

THE consortium attempting to get rugby league off the ground in New York have their sights set on Titans mega star Jarryd Hayne.

AAPOCTOBER 16, 20174:19PM

Kangaroos walk over Kumuls

Ads by Kiosked

AN aspiring rugby league club in New York has set its sights on NRL superstar Jarryd Hayne as its first marquee signing ahead of a proposed 2019 launch. The New York City Rugby League consortium is following in the footsteps of the Toronto Wolfpack and has lodged a bid to play in the Rugby Football League’s (RFL) professional tier in England.

Founders of the New York club hope to get the go-ahead to enter at Championship level, just one step away from Super League.

Like Toronto, which has signed former NRL players such as Fuifui Moimoi, Dave Taylor and Ashton Sims, the New York bid wants to attract prominent NRL talent.

Two former Australian internationals, one a prop and the other a back, have already been approached to play for the new club in 2019.

Hayne has endured a difficult season since returning to rugby league.

Hayne has endured a difficult season since returning to rugby league.Source:AAP

Bid co-founder Ricky Wilby has confirmed that Gold Coast fullback and ex-NFL running back Hayne is one of their targets.

“Jarryd Hayne would be a perfect signing for a team in New York given his background in the NFL, given his love of American sports, given the profile he has in Australia,” Wilby said.

“He would be a perfect fit. I’ve not spoken to Jarryd, but I would love to. It would be great to meet with his agent and discuss a way forward.” Hayne is represented by veteran agent Wayne Beavis.

EXPANSION: Rugby league in New York?

HIT BACK: Tonga coach slams Taumalolo critics

–– ADVERTISEMENT ––

Wilby said the New York bid is backed by an unnamed investor who has promised US4.3 million ($A7.2m) in initial funds for the club for the first two years and then more investment if required.

All of the visiting teams’ flights and accommodation costs from the UK will be covered by the New York club.

The new franchise is looking to play its home games at Red Bull Arena, which hosts Major League Soccer’s New York Red Bulls and has a capacity of 25,000 spectators.

Hayne has a profile in America due to his stint with the 49ers.

Hayne has a profile in America due to his stint with the 49ers.Source:Getty Images

Wilby said the New York club would be based full-time in the American city, unlike the Wolfpack, which is based partly in Yorkshire, and play two games at home and then two games away.

“Toronto being accepted has given the game over here (in the UK) a big shot in the arm,” he said.

“We looked at their model and there’s certain aspects that we could improve. “We wanted to base our team in New York and give, not only players, but fans an experience.

“We want to bring rugby league to a massive sports market.”

Originally published as Hayne Plane on New York’s radar

New York rugby league consortium will target Jarryd Hayne’s signature


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Kurdish delight as Dalkurd promoted to Swedish top flight

By Reuters

2 hours ago

By Philip O'Connor

STOCKHOLM, Oct 28 (Reuters) - A goal by Rawez Lawan for Dalkurd in the penultimate game of the season against GAIS sent Kurds around the world into ecstasy as the Swedish side won promotion to the country's top flight only 13 years after the club was founded.

Set up by Kurdish immigrants in the town of Borlaenge in Dalarna county, the club has 1.5 million followers on Facebook and its rapid rise through the Swedish divisions has made it the de facto national team for Kurds around the globe.

"It's unbelievable, completely unbelievable. I wish every single person could feel the way I do right now," an elated Lawan told Reuters shortly after promotion was secured.

Dalkurd have been involved in a tight, tense battle against Brommapojkarna, who beat them 1-0 in Stockholm on Tuesday to secure their own berth in next season's Allsvenskan.

That left Dalkurd needing a point against GAIS on Saturday, and Lawan rifled home the game's only goal in the 59th minute to the delight of the 2,740 fans at the Domnarvsvallen stadium, as well as Kurds around the world.

"They are very happy. I had an aunt who called me, we talk every week, but never about football," the 30-year-old midfielder said.

"She said, 'I saw your goal. We are so happy here.' They had a big dinner to celebrate, and these are people who normally don't care about football."

Lawan's parents fled from Slemani, a town close to the Iranian border in northern Iraq, in 1981 because of the Iran-Iraq war, eventually moving to the southern Swedish city of Malmo, where he was born six years later.

"At the moment we are going through a tough time in Kurdistan, and today there are many with a smile on their faces," Lawan said.

"They can forget everyday life and convince themselves they are in paradise because of what we have done."

Currently in second place on 57 points after 29 games, Dalkurd can still win the Superettan if they beat Trelleborg in their final game, but leaders Brommapojkarna have a one-point lead and a game in hand.

The Allsvenskan will be a major step up for such a small club, but the acquisition of former Celticstriker Mohamed Bangura at the beginning of last season shows that the club has both the resources and the desire to succeed.

"It's something we Kurds are used to," Lawan said.

"We are always the underdogs, but we always come out as the winners all the same." (Reporting by Philip O'Connor; Editing by Christian Radnedge)

Kurdish delight as Dalkurd promoted to Swedish top flight - Football - Eurosport Australia


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Huge. Well done to the Kurdish community. 


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

annualreport2017.pdfNorwich City accounts show how a club needs to manage drop in income when they drop out of the Prem.


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

DELAYED DECISION: Judge Brodie says she will issue a written statement on NASL vs. U.S. Soccer legal battle later this week

DELAYED DECISION: Judge Brodie says she will issue a written statement on NASL vs. U.S. Soccer legal battle later this week

U.S. District Court was the site of Tuesday’s hearing. (FrontRowSoccer.com Photo)

By Michael Lewis

FrontRowSoccer.com Editor

BROOKLYN, N.Y. — – No decision was rendered Tuesday on the North American Soccer League’s request for a preliminary injunction to continue as a Division 2 League or its anti-trust lawsuit against U.S. Soccer.

Judge Margo K. Brodie said that she will issue a written decision at the end of the week. It was not known which day the decision will be announced.

Afterwards, Rocco Commisso, the NASL chairman and Cosmos owner, said the league’s anti-trust lawsuit would go on, regardless how Judge Brodie rules.

In a hearing that lasted two hours and 45 minutes, attorneys for the NASL and U.S. Soccer stated argued the merits of their cases in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of New York.

Judge Brodie peppered both plaintiff and defendant with pointed questions in her quest to get to the crux of the matter.

Both sides used facts, figures and various arguments that had been mentioned in legal briefs leading up to the hearing. Each side was given an opportunity state its case with plenty of queries from Judge Brodie. The plaintiffs, the NASL went first. U.S. Soccer followed before the NASL was allowed a rebuttal to close the proceedings at 1 p.m.

The NASL needs the preliminary injunction to make plans as a Division 2 league in 2018. Given the NASL attorney’s arguments in the motion and paperwork that has been filed with court, Judge Brodie gave plaintiffs some encouraging news.

“I believe the evidence shows that you can make the first prong,” Judge Brodie said of the injunction.

Jeffrey Kessler, co-executive chairman of Winston & Strawn LLP that is representing the NASL, claimed that playing at the Division 3 level would prove to be irreparable harm to the seven-year-old league.

“The extreme harm is the murder of an organization,” he said.

“This is simply to give an injunction, so we cannot [driven] out of business,” Kessler added in his closing statements. “There will not be a league left to continue the challenge.”

In the third hour of the proceedings, Yates and Russell Sauer, also of the Watkins firm, argued against an injunction.

“If granted, an injunction will harm U.S. Soccer,” Yates said.

Added Sauer: ” A ruling granting their preliminary injunction would delegitimize the body [in making rules]. … A preliminary injunction is telling U.S. Soccer that … we don’t like a decision, it will affect us really bad.”

The NASL, which has housed eight teams in 2017, has six letters of intent from perspective owners for the 2018 season, according to Kessler. “The league will fold if we cannot do this,” he said.

Sauer claimed otherwise, saying the league did not show it was irreparable harm.

“Simply saying we’re going out of business is not enough,” he said, adding, “Division 3 is not a death blow.”

Sauer later added: “Owners say they want to be a Division 2 league and if they’re not going to be a Division 2 league we’re going to take our toys and go home.”

The NASL discovered Sept. 1 that the U.S. Soccer board of directors rescinded its Division 2 status for 2018.

Judge Brodie asked Yates to reveal how the vote transpired. Yates said the vote was 9-1, with John Motta, president of the U.S. Adult Soccer Association, as the lone dissenting vote. Five people with affiliation to professional soccer recused themselves from the vote, former U.S. international defender Carlos Bocanegra, currently the technical director and vice president of Atlanta United, Major League Soccer commissioner Don Garber, attorney John Collins, United Soccer League counsel; Steve Malek, owner of North Carolina FC, and U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati, according to Yates.

Sauer also revealed that at the Sept. 1 meeting that Malek and North Carolina FC informed the federation that it was joining the USL. According to a source in the soccer community, the club told the NASL two weeks after that meeting.

Several times Kessler brought up how U.S. Soccer had revised the standards for Division 1 and 2 leagues.

“Every time we get close to something, the standards change,” he said. “It raises issues, no question. … It is designed to make it harder for people to compete.”

“There’s definitely some smoke there,” Judge Brodie said. “At the end of the day, I cannot draw the inference you want me to draw.”

Kessler claimed that no other soccer federation in the world set standards such as the federation, which includes the necessity of having teams in three specific time zones.

To which Judge Brodie replied, “What works in those countries might not work in the U.S.”

Later the judge stated: “You have to show concerted lawful action.”

Kessler claimed that the federation moved the finish line on standards a number of times.

“Every time we get close to something, the standards change,” he said. “it raises issues, no question. … It is designed to make it harder for people to compete.”

During her questioning with Sauer, Judge Brodie noted that some NASL teams can’t play in Division 3.

To which Sauer replied, “That’s self-inflicted harm.”

“The NASL has had seven years, seven years to meet the standards, and they haven’t.”

To which Judge Brodie replied: “You can say the same thing about MLS. … Clearly, there is a difference in treatment and raises issues in the courts’ mind.”

Re-iterating what was filed in the papers, Kessler claimed U.S. Soccer and Major League Soccer are economically tied together due to their close ties Soccer United Marketing.

“That alone makes the way they set the standard illegal,” he said.

Judge Brodie did not think it was that extreme. “I don’t know if it makes it illegal,” she said. “There are conflicts.”

Kessler said that MLS has to make money for the federation to make money.

“For them to get their 70-30 split … MLS has to be popular enough to bring in enough money,” he said.

Kessler said that MLS and U.S. Soccer were “linked at the hip. That’s what Sunil Gulati admits. They are totally dependent. This is their major source of income.”

Yates later disputed the number, saying it was 20 percent or less, not 30 percent.

Kessler implored Judge Brodie to issue the injunction and let the cards fall where they may in letting the market place determine the league’s fate.

“It’s what every other sport in this country does,” he said.

Judge Brodie admitted that she was on a severe learning curve about the sport.

“You understand soccer,” she told Sauer. “You know how it works. I know nothing.

“You know this area better than I do. I’m just learning it.”

The NASL and the Cosmos were represented by league and team officials.

Sitting the right front row of the court room, left to right, were Commisso; NASL interim commissioner Rishi Sehgal; Cosmos senior vice president Joe Barone; Joseph Commisso, Rocco Commisso’s son; Cosmos Chief Operating Officer Erik Stover; Victoria Anderson, the club’s in-house counsel, and NASL director of public relations Neal Malone.

Two players — forward Lucky Mkosana and defender David Ochieng — attended the proceedings, as did several fans and interested observers.

About two hours after the hearing, Sehgal released a statement:

“We are thankful to have our day in court to present our arguments before the Judge. We remain hopeful for a ruling in our favor, which of course we believe is supported by the law, the facts, and justice. We look forward to the court’s ruling in the coming days.”

DELAYED DECISION: Judge Brodie says she will issue a written statement on NASL vs. U.S. Soccer legal battle later this week - Front Row Soccer


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Wonder if such action will take place here if we don't qualify. Would be massive reprucutions considering the current climate.


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

Change vs. Continuity in the USSF President race

22

A crowded field is emerging with candidates leaning towards two camps

Photo by Spencer Platt/Getty Images

(Author’s note: since this story was first published Kyle Martino has entered the race as the list of people running for USSF President is expanding faster than the universe itself. Martino is decidedly in the change camp and his plans are detailed below).

If there is one thing U.S. Soccer fans seem fairly in favor of, it is replacing Sunil Gulati as U.S. Soccer Federation president. Since the U.S. Men’s National Team failed to qualify for the World Cup, the calls for him to step down or not run for re-election have been growing. At many MLS games there were “Sunil Out” banners hung after the loss to Trinidad & Tobago, #SunilOut is all over U.S. soccer twitter, and every nationally televised MLS playoff game in American stadiums so far has had some kind of banner or poster calling for him to leave USSF.

In the wake of the disenchantment with the federation, several figures in the sport have stepped up to announce they will oppose Gulati in the 2018 election. For the most part, they are developing their ideas still and have some time between now and mid-February when the vote for USSF president will take place.

Eric Wynalda

Eric Wynalda is probably the most high profile candidate running on a massive change platform. He has lots of ideas that he has discussed in media appearances which would more closely align how the sport is played in the U.S. with the rest of the world. His ideas include implementing a promotion and relegation system and reforming the pyramid in the country. He would also follow Norway’s lead in paying the USWNT equally. The former USMNT star also has identified that the scouting and youth development systems are broken.

Wynalda certainly has ideas about how to more effectively bring soccer in the U.S. in line with how it is structured in the most successful soccer nations. It is still early, but articulating a plan to implement these changes is the main weakness of his platform. That said, he does have the makings of a snazzy campaign website, which is slightly more toned down than his personal one. What’s more, because his changes are so drastic and so directly challenge those who hold power in the American soccer landscape, he has the tallest mountain to climb. Bridging the gap between the haves and have nots will be difficult, if not impossible, with the restricted voting pool that structurally rewards powerful, self-interested groups that don’t have a motivation for change.

Steve Gans

Since well before the USMNT failed to qualify for the Men’s World Cup, attorney Steve Gans has been considering a run for USSF president. He promises to spend more time focusing on issues aside from the national teams and criticized Gulati for neglecting youth soccer specifically. His website mentions several areas that the federation needs to address and criticizes Sunil Gulati for not being accountable to the public. Interestingly, he does not specifically mention any changes or concerns about the USWNT.

As far as Gans’ plans for how he plans to treat the WNT, he offered a vague, politically expedient response in an interview with the Washington Post in September, saying, “I am very confident I am going to be able to give proper attention to every constituency, from youth to adult amateur to pro and national team. It’s going to be a big tent.” Gans has extensive experience participating in the sport in the U.S. as an athlete in the NASL as well as exploring business opportunities with professional teams in the U.S. and England. The Boston attorney also stood on the board of FC Boston, a team in the USSF youth development academy.

Paul Lapointe

Paul Lapointe, a businessman and the Northeast Conference manager of the United Premier Soccer League from Rhode Island, has detailed a program that sounds awfully similar to what Wynalda has proposed though he entered the race earlier than the later. He would institute promotion and relegation, focus on expanding access to the sport at the lower levels and extend federation sanctioning to futsal. Lapointe also wants a U.S. Open Cup style tournament for women’s soccer and said in an interview with American Soccer United, “I think we should take care of our women’s team as we do the men” as far as equal pay for equal play goes at the national level. He’s done interviews as well as posting the sketch of his platform on Twitter.

Michael Winogard

Michael Winogard, yet another lawyer, is also throwing his hat in the ring. Winogard has a website which details his background in youth, professional, and college soccer including, “coaching, scouting, and recruiting duties” with the University of Richmond. His platform is to form a transparent advisory committee, treat the USWNT and USMNT equally, and help improve youth development. The website also has a section of secondary issues that he seems not to be prioritizing such as pro/rel. Winogard also achieved notoriety when a youth tryout dispute he was involved with led to a lawsuit in 2014.

Paul Caligiuri

Paul Caligiuri is the newest member of the USSF Presidency pool. He granted an interview with the GotSoccer blog to comment on his candidacy saying that he would give further details about his specific plans for the federation at the GotSoccer forum on November 11th. He did, however, say of the WNT that, “the women who spoke out are our heroes” and criticized Carlos Cordeiro as advocating “methods that have been in place for a long time.”

Carlos Cordeiro

If these candidates represent change to some degree, there is one name who seems to offer largely more of the same: U.S. Soccer Federation Vice-President Carlos Cordeiro. In his thirdand fourth tweets ever he outlined his plan for the federation and they show that he is running as the Al Gore to Sunil Gulati’s Bill Clinton, the George H.W. Bush to the current president’s Ronald Reagan.

Shortly after announcing his candidacy, Cordeiro had an interview with ESPNFC that was light on specifics, claimed that USSF needs to be run like a business, and noted he is basing his plan for changing how the federation is run on openness and transparency with less power in the hands of the president, a post he would continue as a volunteer position. Cordeiro also has a catch phrase for his campaign, calling it Mission 26/27 for hosting both the Men’s and Women’s World Cups and playing in the tournaments at a high level.

Largely though, it seems like not much would change with the priorities of the federation and his plan seems more like empty political rhetoric packaged around a bid for hosting the Women’s World Cup, which should be a priority no matter who is president, and minor structural reforms to the president’s role.

He had more words to give to Philly.com in an interview filled with vague answers and some evasive responses. The interview came off sounding less like it was from a person who has a real plan for the USSF, and more like what might be said by a politician trying to be diplomatic and make himself out to be everything to everyone.

For example, Cordiero gives an answer about the U.S. Women’s National Team that criticized the public nature of the contract negotiations, in which the USWNT waged a public campaign for equal pay, and then spoke vaguely about the “need to have serious discussions about all issues, not just the women.” He also noted that his solution for improving the youth system and lower divisions, which he grouped together in the U.S. Soccer pyramid, was a kind of trickle down economics plan saying:

That has to trickle down more to the bottom of the pyramid. The bottom of our pyramid is what has been left behind to some degree. To me, that’s one of the big challenges. Our grassroots, our youth programs, need more resources.

In another question, Cordeiro is asked about what he would do to appeal to diverse audiences including fans and players, specifically from Hispanic backgrounds. His answer to the question both dodged the specifics of it and appeared to illustrate that he has little idea about the composition of the player pool, the factors that drive who plays soccer in the U.S. and why, and he stated directly that the increasing Hispanic-American birth rate would make the pool more diverse by default. His comment did not address the structural inequalities that are the root of what limits opportunities to participate in the sport at a high level in the U.S.

However, Cordeiro did seem more nuanced about his view of how to attract fans from Hispanic backgrounds who live in the U.S. that was more inclusive than the current strategy of marketing One Nation, One Team.

There’s even pandering and commentary about social media from someone who had two tweets before announcing he would run for USSF president:

I think this traffic going back and forth on Twitter and on other forms of social media is unparalleled. I don’t think there’s any country in the world that shows that degree of involvement, of passion, of commitment on the part of our fans.

His rhetoric and comments are eerily similar to those of Sunil Gulati in his conference call with reporters where he used some variation of the phrase “look at things” or “look at everything” 14 times rather than offering specific answers to questions that had been plaguing the federation for years; questions that he should have been thinking of ways to answer as USSF leader while the federation festered on the field for the USMNT at the senior and youth levels, denied the USWNT equal pay, and focused on the business side of the organization to the detriment of everything else.

Sunil Gulati

The other presumed establishment candidate is of course Sunil Gulati. He still hasn’t announced if he is running and a federation vice president standing against him may indicate that he won’t stand for re-elction.

However, if he does run, Gulati is the most powerful person in soccer in the U.S. and one of the most powerful at the world level. He got Gianni Infantino, who has been less corrupt but not a significant departure from Sepp Blatter, elected FIFA President in a move that illustrates his political dexterity. His experience as a political mover and shaker will be a tool that would give him a major edge above the others who are running.

To the extent that this matters at all will not be known until the vote for president takes place on when the USSF meets from February 8-11, 2018. The public doesn’t vote for the position, save for two members who represent the fans, and it isn’t even set how many voters there are. This is obviously a pivotal time for soccer in the U.S. and if major changes are going to occur, they will clearly not be coming from Carlos Cordiero or Sunil Gulati based on what has been said up to now.

Kyle Martino

The newest entrant to the USSF President race, Kyle Martino will take a leave of absence from his role as an analyst on the NBC coverage of the Premier League to fully focus on his campaign. The New York Times reported that the former USMNT midfielder is basing his candidacy on the idea that now is the time for a former player to be running the federation. He told the Times, “we don’t need an MBA right now. We need a soccer PhD, and that’s what I have.”

Martino also says he is committed to working with Sunil Gulati, presumably as a member of the FIFA Executive Committee, in order to implement what he calls the three pillars of his plan. They will be: transparency, which includes making USSF President a paid job; equality, specifically of youth players who cannot afford high level coaching, those who feel unsafe in locker rooms, and the unequal treatment of the USWNT; and progress, which Martino noted would be based on business and soccer analytics to create a teaching program for youth players that are currently not identified by scouting and would also create a soccer council to advise the president on major decisions that affect the sport.

In addition to leaving his job for now with NBC, Martino will be selling his shares in Real Mallorca in order to run for the office. He already has the endorsement of Thierry Henry and David Beckham, that along with his high profile will make him a formidable candidate by the time February arrives.

Change vs. Continuity in the USSF President race - Stars and Stripes FC


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

U.S. Soccer presidential candidates tackle promotion-relegation

Pro/rel, the favorite topic of many American fans, was one of the subjects at Saturday's U.S. Soccer presidential forum GotSoccer hosted in Atlantic Beach, Florida.



Here's what the five candidates in attendance had to say about promotion-relegation.

Paul Lapointe, the Northeast Conference manager for the United Premier Soccer League, the national amateur league that has introduced promotion-relegation in its Western and Colorado Conferences, termed pro/rel "a fresh start for American soccer."

"I totally believe it," he said. "But this is my take on it: Major League Soccer at this point, we not going to go in those castle walls and interrupt that sandbox with promotion and relegation because there's lot of business associated and tagged to this process."

Lapointe suggested that a test program with promotion and relegation be instituted with teams from the NPSL, PDL, UPSL and state association teams with similar business models. He said he'll define the process.

Paul Caligiuri's first playing time in Germany was with Meppen in 1988 after it won promotion to the 2. Bundesliga, and he later played with St. Pauli in 1995-96 after it won promotion to the top level of German soccer.

"I understand the excitement it brings fans, what it does for players in terms of healthy competition," he said. "Each and every practice, you can't become complacent. We have to build that culture and can start it at the grassroots level."

Michael Winograd said it is not a practical reality at the pro level at this point, given MLS's franchise rights and contractual relationships and agreements between the teams and the league.

"To make it a reality, we must immediately start focusing on building the strength, stability and profitability of the lower leagues," he said. "Close the gap between the lower leagues and MLS and bring that possibility into the nearer term."

Winograd also cautioned that it must be determined just what is U.S. Soccer's power.

"I don't think," he added, "U.S. Soccer should be in the business of ramming things down people's throats."

Like Caligiuri, Eric Wynalda knows the culture of promotion and relegation first hand from his career in Germany. He was on clubs relegated from the Bundesliga -- Saarbruecken in 1993 and Bochum in 1995  -- and was on Bochum in the second division until the start of MLS in 1996 when Bochum was promoted.

"I think this country is ready," said Wynalda, "and there are reasons why it is ready, and one of them is we don't understand how exactly a flourishing league operates."

He says there are promotion-relegation mechanisms that allow clubs to be compensated -- parachute payments -- and that system allows them to assess the bad practices that got them relegated.

"Teams in Germany go up and down, up and down," Wynalda added, "and made more money in the end because of the mechanisms in place."

Steve Gans, who has consulted for EPL clubs and networks, says the year-end interest in promotion and relegation is one of the things that makes soccer inherently great but it has other benefits, too.

"The passionate promotion-relegation people have made a really good point that has not been lost on me in the last four weeks since the U.S. got knocked," he said. "The player who plays week in and week out knowing he or she is playing for survival develops more of a cutting edge. That said, you can't divorce promotion-relegation from the reality of sports in this country."

He noted the "wasteland" that was pro soccer for outdoor players and fans in 1985-96 and doesn't want to return there. He cautioned that it remains a very complex issue and can't be imposed on MLS given the current economic structure.
U.S. Soccer presidential candidates tackle promotion-relegation 11/12/2017


RBBAnonymous
RBBAnonymous
Pro
Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)Pro (4K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 3.8K, Visits: 0
Interesting article Scott21. Of course like most Australians, many of the Americans also don't understand the long term benefits of pro/relegation. The MLS is a pretty decent standard already but if they had pro/rel it would just elevate the MLS to such a higher level. You create long term value by bringing it into play and they have enormous wealth and resources that it would be a long term success







Edited
7 Years Ago by RBBAnonymous
aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0

US soccer woes take an ugly turn

AMERICA was embarrassed in a way not seen for 30 years and things have taken another ugly turn for the proud nation.

news.com.auDECEMBER 13, 201712:28PM

Will Luiz Felipe Scolari coach the Socceroos?

US SOCCER has denied ugly accusations in the aftermath of the country’s stunning failure to qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

America’s incredible choke in a 2-1 loss to Trinidad and Tobago in October — combined with other results going against it — cost the US a place at next year’s showpiece event. Third in the CONCACAF Federation heading into the final round of World Cup qualifiers, America’s defeat saw it slump to fifth, confirming it will miss the tournament held every four years for the first time since 1986.

That debacle prompted longtime president of US Soccer Sunil Gulati to quit his post. “In the end, I think the best thing for me personally, and for the federation, is to see someone new in the job,” he said.

Former players and pundits slammed the US for its capitulation, but those hoping a new president brings with it a bright new future may have reason to be pessimistic.

One of the nine candidates who has nominated to fill the vacant position of US Soccer president following Gulati’s departure has complained about the “woeful” way in which the sport’s governing body is going about selecting Gulati’s successor.

Per Sports Illustrated, Boston lawyer Steve Gans complained about the shoddy nature of the election process in a letter sent to the organisation on Wednesday, saying it can’t be trusted to run a fair election.

Less than 24 hours before the deadline for applications closes, Gans complained about the release of the list of voting delegates being delayed, while he also criticised several rule changes, one of which required candidates to provide three letters of endorsement from the organisation or athlete members of the board of directors.

“Recent events confirm that the US Soccer Federation is not conducting its presidential election process in a fair, open manner that will assure confidence in the ultimate results,” the letter, published by Sports Illustrated, read.

US soccer has seen better days.

US soccer has seen better days.Source:AFP

“Unfortunately, US Soccer has displayed neither fairness no transparency.

“US Soccer has been woefully underprepared for this election. It has proven itself incapable of establishing and overseeing a fair procedure by which Federation members would have the opportunity to challenge and reform the existing power structure.

“It is time now for the Federation to recognise the deficiencies of its own process, and to make the necessary changes to that members will have confidence in the legitimacy of the presidential election and its results.”

US Soccer chief counsel Lydia Wahlke responded to Gans’ complaints with a return letter, published by Sports Illustrated, smacking down what she calls “vague and unsupported allegations”.

“No changes have been made that have not been voted on by the board or that do not constitute a clarification issued by the Nominating and Governance Committee in response to questions from our organisation members,” Wahlke wrote.

It must be noted Gans is the only candidate to have raised concerns about the process for the election that will take place on February 10.

Among the candidates to replace Gulati in the election are former national team players Paul Caligiuri, Eric Wynalda and Kyle Martino and former US Olympic and women’s World Cup goalkeeper Hope Solo.

The field also includes USSF Vice President Carlos Cordeiro, Gans, New York lawyer Michael Winograd and Paul LaPointe, Northeast Conference manager of the United Premier Soccer League.

“I don’t think all the candidates will get the requisite nominations,” Gulati said. “Probably some of the candidates don’t have a full understanding of the job they are running for. That’s probably true for almost anybody who runs for an office.”

— with AP

US Soccer elections get ugly


TheSelectFew
TheSelectFew
Legend
Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)Legend (30K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 30K, Visits: 0
Imagine if they took the billions of dollars to set up pro rel. 


aussie scott21
aussie scott21
Legend
Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)Legend (20K reputation)

Group: Forum Members
Posts: 19K, Visits: 0
Promotion-relegation. Independent-club system. The future of CanPL, as seen by its new commissioner


The new commissioner of the Canadian Premier League prefers the independent club system. He dreams of a time when Canada has a Premier League, a second division and a third division — and teams are promoted and relegated through those leagues. He envisions Canadian pro soccer teams from coast-to-coast.

Meet David Clanachan, the former CEO and president of Tim Hortons who will be steering the Canadian Premier League.

In an interview with The 11, the new commissioner addressed some of the burning questions supporters have had since rumours of a Canadian division-one league first surfaced.

On the league launch in 2019:

“Some supporters have been frustrated with what they see as the lack of movement with the league. What I say is that Rome wasn’t built in a day. If it was, we would have hired their contractor.

“But I am very confident in saying we have an incredible quality of interested parties that we are currently vetting. I’d say there are between 12 and 15 who have shown the appropriate levels of interest. And I expect the league to start with between eight to 10 teams in 2019, coast to coast.”

How will clubs be run: Like MLS (central control, franchise model) or the independent-club model?

“I like MLS. I am a fan of what they’ve done. But the way I see our league operating is very different. I think what MLS has done very well is to create grassroots community-based fanbases. At one time, soccer was very ethnic-based. But I think it has turned a corner where we look at it more like we do hockey in Canada.

“But we are looking at a club-based style. We are not looking at a franchise system. We are looking for each of our clubs to build from the ground up, and we know it’s important what we do at the community level.”

With so much interest, will you need to cap the number of teams? Promotion-relegation?

“I would like to imagine where we have a Premier League, a second division and a third division. I’d say, plus or minus, we’d look at about 16 teams in the Premier League. One table. Then, if other communities want to get involved, you would look at promotion and relegation. I am a fan of the promotion-relegation system. It’s the system that works around the world.”


DAVID CLANACHAN Photo by Darren Goldstein/DSG Photo.
What will be the roster minimums for Canadians?

“We are working through it. But I can say that our ownership groups are all nodding in the same way. This league is about developing a professional soccer industry in Canada. Players. Coaches. Administrators. When it comes to the actual numbers, our soccer operations people are working through it. Our soccer operations people, they’d probably prefer I stay away from that, because I am very passionate about it. But we know that there are a number of federations out there who have had issues with fewer of their players in their domestic leagues, and the impact it has on their programs.”

Will the winner of the CanPL get a CONCACAF Champions League berth?

(Note: Currently, Canada gets one spot, allocated to the winner of the Canadian Championship, which is essentially a national Cup competition).

“We fully expect that the Canadian Premier League champion will get a spot in the CONCACAF Champions League. And, our teams expect to play in the Canadian Championship, and that could lead to another spot.”

(Canada has lobbied to get a second spot in the CCL, and a domestic league would help with that push).

How did you get interested in the job?

“Obviously I’ve had lots of exposure to professional sports at different levels in Canada, through my previous experience with Tim Hortons. I’m very passionate about sport. And, in discussions with (Hamilton Tiger-Cats owner) Bob Young and (Ti-Cats CEO) Scott Mitchell, they asked me would I be interested in getting involved? ‘You’ve been passionate about soccer your whole life.’ I have the mix of passion and business acumen, and the opportunity came at a crossroads, an intersection… then I got to know the prospective owners, and saw the level of passion they have, and the amazing supporters groups across the country, and the level of passion they have.

“The demographics for soccer are very good. The new immigrants; the male-female split. Soccer is very gender-neutral.

“But it’s not going to be an overnight thing. This is still going to take a lot of patience going forward.”

https://the11.ca/promotion-relegation-independent-club-system-the-future-of-canpl-as-seen-by-its-new-commissioner/
GO


Select a Forum....























Inside Sport


Search