The Complete and Definitive Enemy List of Australian Football


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THE COMPLETE AND DEFINITIVE ENEMY LIST OF AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL

'Raise your hand if you hate football' (PIC by Louis Liotta/New York Post Archives / (c) NYP Holdings, Inc. via Getty Images)

'Raise your hand if you hate football' (PIC by Louis Liotta/New York Post Archives / (c) NYP Holdings, Inc. via Getty Images)

Richard Nixon was completely mad. Aside from the whole Watergate thing, Tricky Dick threw together a list of all his political enemies. And to be quite honest, the idea of writing down a list of opponents is very Danny McGrath.

And thanks to years of outright attacks from the press and various institutions, football fans in Australia are now a bit like Richard Nixon at his peak – aggressive, meticulous and majorly paranoid. So we at EON Sports have decided to make the definitive list of Australian football’s greatest enemies.

(If you don’t have a sense of humour, we suggest for and your own sanity you stop reading. If you’re on the list and you are reading, consider it a badge of honour.)

1- Peter Rolfe

When Peter isn’t jostling fisherman out the front of BCF, he’s giving us the latest on how A-League matches are just about as safe as downtown Mosul. Peter is a self-proclaimed football fan, so much so, that his reports during the Asian Cup were mostly negative and didn’t mention anything about the actual football.

2- Tom Elliott

Serial hot-take merchant on rival radio station [redacted]. Often goes through the classic repertoire of nil-all draws, violence, its soft etc, etc, etc. The best one was taking umbrage at the amount of free kicks in games, something that’s currently also driving fans in other codes spare. If starting code wars was as illegal as organising cockfights, Tom would be serving concurrent sentences.

3- Susie O’Brien

The suburban terrorism expert from the University of Kneejerk is not only taking back the w-word, but also willfully misrepresents the most basic of issues.  Googling her name + [insert topic] often leaves a trail of bemused comments longer than a Leonard Cohen song.

4- Rita Panahi

Rita once wrote that soccer fans are “paranoid, dim-witted and vile”. And to be fair to Rita, she’d be able to spot all three as that is largely her audience.  If being largely annoyed at article titles like ‘Soccer troll abuse proves how I was right’ is wrong, then who wants to be right?

5- Various security forces

Pushing over teenagers is fun. Let’s cut the bullshit here, they’re largely annoying and the average person would jump at the opportunity to do it for money. But maybe don’t do this at football games and maybe it’s time to scale back on the riot gear. We don’t have weapons, so maybe leave the siege mentality to us.

6- Baz Blakeney

Once told us to take our ‘round ball’ and to ‘rack off’ from Australia. To be quite fair to Baz, he is routinely embarrassed when he tries to order something from a Lygon St eatery – fumbling his pronunciations to the ethnic-Australian waiter taking his order. For him, a whiter Australia is one of convenience.

7- Whoever wrote the ‘film it in landscape’ memo at Channel 10

Does it cease to be newsworthy hooliganism when it’s in portrait? The idea of the news director fuming when flare smoke doesn’t make the whole shot at 4:57pm on a Monday is highly amusing. Maybe active supporters should have their own PR arm to distribute footage to news networks – they can look tough and the news directors can stop having heart attacks about broadcast aesthetics.

8- Malcolm Conn

I know for a fact various active A-League supporters hold park cricket matches before night games in summer. Maybe we can get some sort of cross-code deal going – we bring the idiots and you bring the equipment. We have enough louts with strong pull-shots and cover driving abilities. If Dave Warner ever needed a partner at the top of the order with the same attributes, we’re more than happy to have someone step in.

9- Junior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans

I actually feel for you – you’d rather be fighting the power than sourcing news footage of idiots. When ‘the man’ tells you to reinforce the audience of their pre-existing ideas of football by doing another hit piece, you’re the one who gets told to piss off and is mocked roundly on the internet by people like me.

Consider it sympathy for the devil.

10 – This man taking a photo of a flare in a gutter

Searching high and low for the truth

Searching high and low for the truth. (Source: Twitter)

This is an art installation, a comment on the state of modern media. Or maybe he just really likes trash. I can’t tell.

11- The AFL

Very easy and general folk devil you can vaguely point your finger at when something goes wrong. Dog ate your homework? The AFL did it. Journalists (apparently) fed anti-football sentiments from secretive cabals? Definitely the AFL’s fault.

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan alongside Commission Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick. (Pics: Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan alongside Commission Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick, clearly planning here to deflate a football.  (Pics: Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

12 – Bernard Keane

His views, like a lot of people on the left, are informed by the idea that football is some form of English imperialism. Which is funny because people on the other side, like to call its rise the end of Anglo values and white Australia. The main takeaway is anyone who uses politics to hate a sport is largely an idiot.

13 – Various people who want the offside rule removed

If you want it explained, just ask. Hardly anyone understands physics and nuclear fusion, but we don’t just get rid of it because learning it is an inconvenience.

14 – Graham Cornes

Otherwise known as the bloke who gets schooled by Simon Hill four or five times a season. Also when not baiting football fans, Graham is bizarrely pre-occupied with female footballers boobs. Really, don’t ask.

15 – Geoff Roach

Do you know what’s more boring than football? People telling us they’re bored by football. We get it – it’s not your cup of tea. That’s okay. Football can be very boring, and frankly I don’t see its appeal myself. But Geoff, tell someone who cares.

16 – Various Facebook posters who use the term ‘wog ball’.

Between Reclaim Australia rallies and commenting on news articles ‘THIS IS NOT NEWS’, wog ball is a handy go-to buzzword. It also forgets it’s original conception comes from the Anglosphere, but facts are time and money.

17– John Birmingham

Very funny man and He Died with a Felafel in His Hand is an all-time classic – but we know we’re not very good at it. No need to tell us the sky is blue mate. (Editors note – John has answered for his sins against the game by playing for charity, but remains on the list as a warning.)

Fans let off flares during the round 18 A-League match

Just a few Aussie larrikins signalling for help.

18 – Whoever leaked the FFA banned list to the media

EON’s lawyers are over my shoulder watching me while I write this, but insert your favourite conspiracy theory to who did it. Soccer Stoppage Time infamously (and very, very incorrectly – don’t sue) named Kyle Patterson at the FFA as the culprit. Another favourite conspiracy among football forumites includes the SCG Trust, The Freemasons, Rupert Murdoch, Cuban standover men, the CIA and Islamic State.

19 – Rory Cahill

An Australian journalist/communications specialist and a very good friend of mine. His place on this list would make his day, so this one’s for you mate.

20 – Anyone who tells us they’ve been to a game in England before dropping the BUT

I’m not racist, BUT. I’m not sexist, BUT. I once saw Queens Park Rangers play Crystal Palace, BUT I just think it’s a terrible sport. Just because I’ve seen a house before, doesn’t quantify my opinion as expert on classical Roman architecture.



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Channel 7
Murdoch
Bogans (yep, all of them)
John Hartigan
Alan Jones
Ron Barrasi 
All Cops
Eddie Mcguire
Sean Sowerby
Koch 
Bernard Keane
Sam Newman
Neil Mitchell
Ali Clarke




Viennese Vuck

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Can't believe it didn't include Eddie!

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McGuire is such a fucking snake. Hate that he dares to associate with Celtic whilst simultaneously undermining the game.

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melbourne_terrace - 21 Oct 2016 2:44 AM
McGuire is such a fucking snake. Hate that he dares to associate with Celtic whilst simultaneously undermining the game.

Where (or why) do you hear eddie ? 

(I dont listen to Melbourne radio or read the herald sun and don't know who most these people are)



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Enemy No. 7 125 000 000- adrtho
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Portrait v Landscape still gets me every single time I think about it
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quickflick - 21 Oct 2016 3:21 AM
Enemy No. 7 125 000 000- adrtho

This. 


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People who take flares to the game

If you think active support isn't good enough then fuck off back to Europe or wherever it is you are trying to emulate

Stop trying to out do the great work done by active support and stop trying to create a negative image for our sport just for your 15 minutes


I'd also add the NRL / AFL driven FFA. Football isn't going to go anywhere in this country as a stand alone elite commercial cash cow for a handful of execs. We want an all inclusive game for players and fans. We want an ACL spot for the FFA cup, and we want a direct path to the A League. The key to the game is viability, not profitability. If you want to make money from our game - buy a licence and start a team




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melbourne_terrace - 21 Oct 2016 2:27 AM
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Murdoch
Bogans (yep, all of them)
John Hartigan
Alan Jones
Ron Barrasi 
All Cops
Eddie Mcguire
Sean Sowerby
Koch 
Bernard Keane
Sam Newman
Neil Mitchell
Ali Clarke



LOL!
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THE COMPLETE AND DEFINITIVE ENEMY LIST OF AUSTRALIAN FOOTBALL

'Raise your hand if you hate football' (PIC by Louis Liotta/New York Post Archives / (c) NYP Holdings, Inc. via Getty Images)

'Raise your hand if you hate football' (PIC by Louis Liotta/New York Post Archives / (c) NYP Holdings, Inc. via Getty Images)

Richard Nixon was completely mad. Aside from the whole Watergate thing, Tricky Dick threw together a list of all his political enemies. And to be quite honest, the idea of writing down a list of opponents is very Danny McGrath.

And thanks to years of outright attacks from the press and various institutions, football fans in Australia are now a bit like Richard Nixon at his peak – aggressive, meticulous and majorly paranoid. So we at EON Sports have decided to make the definitive list of Australian football’s greatest enemies.

(If you don’t have a sense of humour, we suggest for and your own sanity you stop reading. If you’re on the list and you are reading, consider it a badge of honour.)

1- Peter Rolfe

When Peter isn’t jostling fisherman out the front of BCF, he’s giving us the latest on how A-League matches are just about as safe as downtown Mosul. Peter is a self-proclaimed football fan, so much so, that his reports during the Asian Cup were mostly negative and didn’t mention anything about the actual football.

2- Tom Elliott

Serial hot-take merchant on rival radio station [redacted]. Often goes through the classic repertoire of nil-all draws, violence, its soft etc, etc, etc. The best one was taking umbrage at the amount of free kicks in games, something that’s currently also driving fans in other codes spare. If starting code wars was as illegal as organising cockfights, Tom would be serving concurrent sentences.

3- Susie O’Brien

The suburban terrorism expert from the University of Kneejerk is not only taking back the w-word, but also willfully misrepresents the most basic of issues.  Googling her name + [insert topic] often leaves a trail of bemused comments longer than a Leonard Cohen song.

4- Rita Panahi

Rita once wrote that soccer fans are “paranoid, dim-witted and vile”. And to be fair to Rita, she’d be able to spot all three as that is largely her audience.  If being largely annoyed at article titles like ‘Soccer troll abuse proves how I was right’ is wrong, then who wants to be right?

5- Various security forces

Pushing over teenagers is fun. Let’s cut the bullshit here, they’re largely annoying and the average person would jump at the opportunity to do it for money. But maybe don’t do this at football games and maybe it’s time to scale back on the riot gear. We don’t have weapons, so maybe leave the siege mentality to us.

6- Baz Blakeney

Once told us to take our ‘round ball’ and to ‘rack off’ from Australia. To be quite fair to Baz, he is routinely embarrassed when he tries to order something from a Lygon St eatery – fumbling his pronunciations to the ethnic-Australian waiter taking his order. For him, a whiter Australia is one of convenience.

7- Whoever wrote the ‘film it in landscape’ memo at Channel 10

Does it cease to be newsworthy hooliganism when it’s in portrait? The idea of the news director fuming when flare smoke doesn’t make the whole shot at 4:57pm on a Monday is highly amusing. Maybe active supporters should have their own PR arm to distribute footage to news networks – they can look tough and the news directors can stop having heart attacks about broadcast aesthetics.

8- Malcolm Conn

I know for a fact various active A-League supporters hold park cricket matches before night games in summer. Maybe we can get some sort of cross-code deal going – we bring the idiots and you bring the equipment. We have enough louts with strong pull-shots and cover driving abilities. If Dave Warner ever needed a partner at the top of the order with the same attributes, we’re more than happy to have someone step in.

9- Junior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans

I actually feel for you – you’d rather be fighting the power than sourcing news footage of idiots. When ‘the man’ tells you to reinforce the audience of their pre-existing ideas of football by doing another hit piece, you’re the one who gets told to piss off and is mocked roundly on the internet by people like me.

Consider it sympathy for the devil.

10 – This man taking a photo of a flare in a gutter

Searching high and low for the truth

Searching high and low for the truth. (Source: Twitter)

This is an art installation, a comment on the state of modern media. Or maybe he just really likes trash. I can’t tell.

11- The AFL

Very easy and general folk devil you can vaguely point your finger at when something goes wrong. Dog ate your homework? The AFL did it. Journalists (apparently) fed anti-football sentiments from secretive cabals? Definitely the AFL’s fault.

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan alongside Commission Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick. (Pics: Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan alongside Commission Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick, clearly planning here to deflate a football.  (Pics: Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

12 – Bernard Keane

His views, like a lot of people on the left, are informed by the idea that football is some form of English imperialism. Which is funny because people on the other side, like to call its rise the end of Anglo values and white Australia. The main takeaway is anyone who uses politics to hate a sport is largely an idiot.

13 – Various people who want the offside rule removed

If you want it explained, just ask. Hardly anyone understands physics and nuclear fusion, but we don’t just get rid of it because learning it is an inconvenience.

14 – Graham Cornes

Otherwise known as the bloke who gets schooled by Simon Hill four or five times a season. Also when not baiting football fans, Graham is bizarrely pre-occupied with female footballers boobs. Really, don’t ask.

15 – Geoff Roach

Do you know what’s more boring than football? People telling us they’re bored by football. We get it – it’s not your cup of tea. That’s okay. Football can be very boring, and frankly I don’t see its appeal myself. But Geoff, tell someone who cares.

16 – Various Facebook posters who use the term ‘wog ball’.

Between Reclaim Australia rallies and commenting on news articles ‘THIS IS NOT NEWS’, wog ball is a handy go-to buzzword. It also forgets it’s original conception comes from the Anglosphere, but facts are time and money.

17– John Birmingham

Very funny man and He Died with a Felafel in His Hand is an all-time classic – but we know we’re not very good at it. No need to tell us the sky is blue mate. (Editors note – John has answered for his sins against the game by playing for charity, but remains on the list as a warning.)

Fans let off flares during the round 18 A-League match

Just a few Aussie larrikins signalling for help.

18 – Whoever leaked the FFA banned list to the media

EON’s lawyers are over my shoulder watching me while I write this, but insert your favourite conspiracy theory to who did it. Soccer Stoppage Time infamously (and very, very incorrectly – don’t sue) named Kyle Patterson at the FFA as the culprit. Another favourite conspiracy among football forumites includes the SCG Trust, The Freemasons, Rupert Murdoch, Cuban standover men, the CIA and Islamic State.

19 – Rory Cahill

An Australian journalist/communications specialist and a very good friend of mine. His place on this list would make his day, so this one’s for you mate.

20 – Anyone who tells us they’ve been to a game in England before dropping the BUT

I’m not racist, BUT. I’m not sexist, BUT. I once saw Queens Park Rangers play Crystal Palace, BUT I just think it’s a terrible sport. Just because I’ve seen a house before, doesn’t quantify my opinion as expert on classical Roman architecture.



LOL!
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On the flip side - the friends of Australian football:

1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). 
AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend.

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Iknowbest - 21 Oct 2016 9:08 AM
On the flip side - the friends of Australian football:

1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). 
AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend.

And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming.
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On the flip side - the friends of Australian football:

1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). 
AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend.

And we can actually thank video games for that one, mainly FIFA. It gets kids to learn about the sport and then want to play it. And when the next generation comes through it will be more people following football and the AFL/Rugby know that it is coming.

The older generation might not understand it, but FIFA, Football Manager and all the other games are a huge boost to football that the other codes just don't have. Even the most bogan kid has played FIFA, and now with the inclusion of the A-League it's a great leg up for the generation coming through.
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paladisious - 21 Oct 2016 1:58 PM
City Sam - 21 Oct 2016 9:16 AM

The older generation might not understand it, but FIFA, Football Manager and all the other games are a huge boost to football that the other codes just don't have. Even the most bogan kid has played FIFA, and now with the inclusion of the A-League it's a great leg up for the generation coming through.

I was watching Playschool this morning and their were 3 women on their sing "if you're happy and you know it kick a ball". I assume they are Matildas or something. I have also noticed they do acknowledge football/soccer a lot (aslo AFL) on ABC Kids. Also in all forms of media. Having not been in Australia for an extended period for 13 years it really stands out.  So it is becoming part of our baby/infant/toddler culture too. :)

Giggle and Hoot is a particular favourite and many kids send in pictures of them or the owls and bat playing soccer. 
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Junior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans


Chris Ikonomidis can confirm.


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paladisious - 21 Oct 2016 1:58 PM

I was watching Playschool this morning and their were 3 women on their sing "if you're happy and you know it kick a ball". I assume they are Matildas or something. I have also noticed they do acknowledge football/soccer a lot (aslo AFL) on ABC Kids. Also in all forms of media. Having not been in Australia for an extended period for 13 years it really stands out.  So it is becoming part of our baby/infant/toddler culture too. :)

Giggle and Hoot is a particular favourite and many kids send in pictures of them or the owls and bat playing soccer. 

It's Caitlin Cooper, Ellie Carpenter and Michelle Heyman.

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Draupnir - 21 Oct 2016 2:09 PM

Junior reporters who go fishing in the DM’s of football fans


Chris Ikonomidis can confirm.


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Iknowbest - 21 Oct 2016 9:08 AM
On the flip side - the friends of Australian football:

1, Kids u15. Most kids without interaction from parents will chose football over AFL / Rugby or most other sports. Why? Because it is simply a better game. The rules are better - its more fun to play, has better atmosphere, in is inclusive (you do not have to be build like a fridge to play) etc. It is fun to watch at any level (go watch the local u12s in football then do the same in AFL/rudgy to see what I mean). 
AFL and Rugby survive in the current Australian landscape because of older people who have grown up with it. In time as this younger generation becomes older the shift from these codes that have failed to the world game will happen. It will occur quicker if the football gods shine (e.g. national teams do well, a-league continues to improve, FFA improve, media removes its bias etc). In 50 years the sporting environment in Australia will be very different. The AFL and rugby bosses know but I think the greater public are yet to comprehend.

Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously.

But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there.
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melbourne_terrace - 21 Oct 2016 2:27 AM
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Great list. Must add a couple to that......

1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned.

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quickflick - 21 Oct 2016 2:17 PM
Iknowbest - 21 Oct 2016 9:08 AM

Kids under fifteen certainly don't need to be built like a fridge to play Aussie Rules well. In fact, even at elite level, they don't always need to be. Also, based on where I'm from, it's not the case that kids under fifteen like AFL purely because of their parents. They just like it (partly because of the rules/dynamics and partly because of its place in society). The dominance it has in the sporting landscape and the 'tribal' aspects help its cause enormously.

But I agree that football is making inroads with kids under 15. Imo, the biggest help is EA Sports and maybe whoever does ProEvolution Soccer. That's something which no other sport, except basketball, can compete with. We really need a big shot in the arm in terms of NT success and Aussies Abroad, though. If something like the World Cup in Germany can be replicated and the A-League gets a bit more success, then you can imagine Aussie Rules battling to garner support with the younger generations. The feeling of elation when the NT do well, imo, basically can't be matched by anything they have. Plus, when I was really young, Harry Kewell and Mark Viduka were doing fantastic things for Leeds. If we had Aussies Abroad doing that (a bit like the basketball equivalents are) then people get enthusiastic. Australia's an incredibly parochial country. When an Aussie stands out compared to the rest of the world (lately Ben Simmons, Matthew Dellavedova) people start frothing. Admittedly, I'm as bad as anybody else there.

Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress.
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Great list. Must add a couple to that......

1. Various Foxtel hosts like Peter Van Onselen, Paul Murray etc. Rita has already been mentioned.

2. Bitters

3. paulc 

For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and  cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny.

Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game.






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quickflick - 21 Oct 2016 2:17 PM

Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress.



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Sorry paladishious and I'm sure what you say is factual but most people in Sydney would not have a clue who the people on your list are. Still good to name and shame them anyway
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3. paulc 

For constantly belittling and ridiculing our player pathways npl clubs (commonly refering to them as tinpot and  cornerstore) , for ridiculing the npl competition itself and last but not least for ridiculing the ffa cup...and he thinks its funny.

Paulc is most definitely worthy of making this list... one of the most anti-football posters here thats for sure. Enemy of the game.



LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters.


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quickflick - 21 Oct 2016 2:17 PM

Apart from some proper bogan areas, i'd go as far to say it is the most popular sport for kids now. From what i see more kids play football than AFL, i'm from Melbourne so i don't really see many people play Rugby, but football definitely making a lot of progress.

Also from Melbourne. Mmmmm. Rugby definitely doesn't have much of a hold. I'm not sure about more kids (at least lads) playing football than Aussie rules though, bogan or non-bogan areas. It's true that there's definitely a lot of kids playing football who previously wouldn't have done. I'm getting the feeling that the participation levels have the AFL concerned. But where I'm from, the majority of lads still play Aussie Rules.

Also, I'm not talking about bogan areas. I'm talking about inner eastern suburbs, mostly private schools. Great word though bogan is, I think it can apply to people who are rather wealthy and/or well-educated. So for this thread, I'll say working-class, instead.

I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding on this forum of the AFL's support base. It seems that many think it draws its support from the working-classes. It has a lot of support there. But part of the reason the bloody sport has had so much success is because it has successfully transcended class differences. It has a heck of a lot of support in upper-middle class and wealthy circles, too. As I say, it's rules the roost in most of the horribly expensive private schools in Melbourne, in my experience. It's ridiculously influential. Wealthy business people, bankers, barristers, specialist doctors, they'll often go to AFL matches. They are often MCC members. And they'll often be discussing AFL among themselves quite a lot. Often, they played Aussie rules as kids and their kids play it, too..

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HortoMagiko - 21 Oct 2016 2:31 PM

LOL when MVFC get's more than 6,000 for a do or die semi at home then we know the FFA cup will be treated more seriously by all. And there's nothing wrong with the NPL clubs, just a few are insular and refuse to broaden their base but at the same time want the limelight in top football lol. You criticise anything the FFA do and you like the slash and burn effect as a way to progress football with that pea brain of yours, but hey that's normal for bitters.

Again ridiculing the ffa cup. and you think its funny. i have no semblance of an idea why any football fan would feel the need to ridicule our national cup comp... it simply beggars belief.... if i now seriously have to explain to you why the comp has merit, and benefits to australian football, and doesnt desrve your ridicule, then you def deserve  to make this list as an enemy of the game.

If i criticise the ffa its bc i want to see football grow in aus, if i want "slash and burn", as you call it, which when translated means "progress", then so do a fair few prominent organisations and major stakeholders... im not alone in wanting improvement at ffa. You have a ffa is holier than thou philosophy, which flies in the face of rational discusssion. 



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