Tasmanian A-League Bid


Tasmanian A-League Bid

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What We Know:

Consortium: Harry Stamoulis (Property Investor) & Robert Belteky (Care Park). Also Involved is David Clarkson (Football Agent, Former Player).

Entry into A-League: Ready and wanting to be admitted 17/18 Season.

Registered Footballers: Tasmania has over 14,000 registered (8000 Tassie kids under the age of 12 are already playing the sport)

Stadium: North Hobart Oval (Will develop with significant Government support), Bellerive oval (may play games there until North Hobart Is ready) & York Park (Will play there when taking games up to Launceston. 

Population of Tasmania:  518,500
Hobart: 221,000
Launceston: 86,633

Sponsorship: $2,000,000 Already Pledged

Breakeven: 5,000 fans to break-even

References/Articles 
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/perth-glory-boss-urges-tassie-consortium-to-go-about-aleague-bid-in-strong-bold-manner/news-story/694e373ca057587dbca26db106c1d03c
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/andrew-wilkie-will-hodgman-meet-with-consortium-pushing-for-a-tasmanian-aleague-team/news-story/de3bba746d553fcf7f3ba4ae9529569d
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/opinion/talking-point-about-time-we-kicked-an-aleague-goal/news-story/fde1147a11dc38418be4c0b5ce801693
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/tasmania-has-some-heavy-hitters-behind-bid-for-aleague-inclusion/news-story/d732a4f7519d1948e53788826289b5da
http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/tasmania-ripe-for-expansion-442089
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-set-to-introduce-aleague-expansion-framework-after-meeting-with-tasmanian-bid-20161109-gslo04.html
http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2016/11/10/29359762/tasmanian-bid-excited-about-a-league-chances
http://outside90.com/tasmania-close-to-receiving-100-support-from-ffa-for-a-league-entry/

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That's what we need

More Tasmanian Fantasy Expansion threads, plus the Sticky thread

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Regional Population Growth

Latest populations.

Hobart and South East - 258,878
Launceston and North East - 143,874
West and North West - 113,834
Annual growth 0.4%

https://www.treasury.tas.gov.au/domino/dtf/dtf.nsf/LookupFiles/Regional-Population-Growth.pdf/$file/Regional-Population-Growth.pdf

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Launceston City Councils population is 86,633 but after you throw in the surrounding councils less than halfhour of Launceston its 141,457.
LCC - 86,633
Meander Valley - 19,694
West Tamar - 22,476
Northern Midlands-12,654



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Here's something I made, also shared it in the Expansion Sticky.

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Gyfox - 22 Nov 2016 1:24 PM
Regional Population Growth

Latest populations.

Hobart and South East - 258,878
Launceston and North East - 143,874
West and North West - 113,834
Annual growth 0.4%

https://www.treasury.tas.gov.au/domino/dtf/dtf.nsf/LookupFiles/Regional-Population-Growth.pdf/$file/Regional-Population-Growth.pdf

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How many Satellite dishes and how much disposable income do they have for National Branded items

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Is that enough fish?

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View from the fence - 22 Nov 2016 1:33 PM
Gyfox - 22 Nov 2016 1:24 PM

How many Satellite dishes and how much disposable income do they have for National Branded items

STV penetration is the lowest in Australia.  In my view a team down here wouldn't generate the revenue for the broadcaster that would cover their share of the broadcasters payment for the broadcast rights.  In that they would not be alone.  Newcastle, Central Coast, Wellington and possibly Perth rely on subsidisation from the "donor" markets of Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

As far as disposable income is concerned Tasmanians are fairly well off due to the comparatively low housing costs.
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paulbagzFC - 22 Nov 2016 1:38 PM
Is that enough fish?

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Do two headed fish count as double. 
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Another expansion thread, the Tassie consortium are real busy making their point, but I fear the atmosphere at these games will be equal to Newcastle or Wellington matches atm, I hope not but thats how I feel it will turn out.

Also, all these people making waves and they have no idea what the FFA criteria is, in fact I bet there would not be one next March as promised if there wasn't so much hype about it now. Go Social Media 



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Tasmanian A-League bid update from last nights local WIN News.
https://www.facebook.com/WINNewsTasmania/videos/1349348535098816/
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I'll fly down to the apple island for the first A league season game. Looking forward to it.
One piece of advice get yourself a great coach don't skimp on this he will set you up for ever , pay peanuts get monkeys (look what happened to fury)👌🏾
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StiflersMom - 22 Nov 2016 4:17 PM
Another expansion thread, the Tassie consortium are real busy making their point, but I fear the atmosphere at these games will be equal to Newcastle or Wellington matches atm, I hope not but thats how I feel it will turn out.





I'm guessing  you think the games at Newcastle, Wellington  and Gosford are a failure in terms of atmosphere?

I've seen some good games on TV at those venues with a decent atmosphere. Townsville also had games with a decent atmosphere with 6 - 7 000.

Sometimes the bigger stadia in the bigger cities with sparsely filled stands seem drab. 
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krones3 - 22 Nov 2016 7:59 PM
I'll fly down to the apple island for the first A league season game. Looking forward to it.
One piece of advice get yourself a great coach don't skimp on this he will set you up for ever , pay peanuts get monkeys (look what happened to fury)👌🏾

Look forward to seeing you there, Krones.
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MCMH - 22 Nov 2016 1:13 PM
What We Know:

Consortium: Harry Stamoulis (Property Investor) & Robert Belteky (Care Park). Also Involved is David Clarkson (Football Agent, Former Player).

Entry into A-League: Ready and wanting to be admitted 17/18 Season.

Registered Footballers: Tasmania has over 14,000 registered (8000 Tassie kids under the age of 12 are already playing the sport)

Stadium: North Hobart Oval (Will develop with significant Government support), Bellerive oval (may play games there until North Hobart Is ready) & York Park (Will play there when taking games up to Launceston. 

Population of Tasmania:  518,500
Hobart: 221,000
Launceston: 86,633

Sponsorship: $2,000,000 Already Pledged

Breakeven: 5,000 fans to break-even

References/Articles 
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/perth-glory-boss-urges-tassie-consortium-to-go-about-aleague-bid-in-strong-bold-manner/news-story/694e373ca057587dbca26db106c1d03c
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/andrew-wilkie-will-hodgman-meet-with-consortium-pushing-for-a-tasmanian-aleague-team/news-story/de3bba746d553fcf7f3ba4ae9529569d
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/opinion/talking-point-about-time-we-kicked-an-aleague-goal/news-story/fde1147a11dc38418be4c0b5ce801693
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/tasmania-has-some-heavy-hitters-behind-bid-for-aleague-inclusion/news-story/d732a4f7519d1948e53788826289b5da
http://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/tasmania-ripe-for-expansion-442089
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-set-to-introduce-aleague-expansion-framework-after-meeting-with-tasmanian-bid-20161109-gslo04.html
http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2016/11/10/29359762/tasmanian-bid-excited-about-a-league-chances
http://outside90.com/tasmania-close-to-receiving-100-support-from-ffa-for-a-league-entry/

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Sounds good!
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StiflersMom - 22 Nov 2016 4:17 PM
Another expansion thread, the Tassie consortium are real busy making their point, but I fear the atmosphere at these games will be equal to Newcastle or Wellington matches atm, I hope not but thats how I feel it will turn out.

Also, all these people making waves and they have no idea what the FFA criteria is, in fact I bet there would not be one next March as promised if there wasn't so much hype about it now. Go Social Media 



North Hobart Oval will probably have better atmosphere than Wellington or Newcastle considering it's a tiny Oval by Footy standards so it will be pretty intimate compared to the cake-tin or too big like Newcastles ground and they'll have a ton of terracing which always helps.

If it looks anything like this for the football (which i'm sure it would be given the community interest) then I can't see atmosphere being an issue https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zOLV6ryg8WU/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kzAC0pq7wNU/hqdefault.jpg


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That was a 10,000 crowd I'm fairly certain ^^
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TassieMad - 22 Nov 2016 6:43 PM
Tasmanian A-League bid update from last nights local WIN News.
https://www.facebook.com/WINNewsTasmania/videos/1349348535098816/

Even more interesting from that video is that a coach NPL signing is reported on TV!
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Whilst there is a plethora of expansion threads, it shows the significant opening for the FFA to push for inclusion, if they are serious about developing football in Australia.

The alternative to expansion is for the AFC to expel us from the confederation. That would rattle the cages at headquarters!
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Our NPL gets just as much if not more coverage than our AFL state league.

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so they need an average of 5000 crowd wise to break even
not knowing the Tasmanian sporting market, would that many turn up on a regular basis ?
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Rob Belteky Interview on World Of Football

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Andrew Wilkie takes Tassie A-League bid to the PM personally. 
http://andrewwilkie.org/wilkie-takes-tassie-a-league-bid-to-pm-personally/
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NRL coming to North Hobart Oval February 2017.
http://www.examiner.com.au/story/4313531/storm-to-play-warm-up-encounter-in-hobart/?cs=96
https://www.melbournestorm.com.au/news/2016/11/24/storm_announce_2017_.html

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Nachoman - 23 Nov 2016 9:33 AM
so they need an average of 5000 crowd wise to break even
not knowing the Tasmanian sporting market, would that many turn up on a regular basis ?

need tasmanians that look like this to turn up



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The FFA are trying to appeal to broadcasters, right now.

They won't achieve that by talking up a tassie bid.
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I'm guessing  you think the games at Newcastle, Wellington  and Gosford are a failure in terms of atmosphere?

I've seen some good games on TV at those venues with a decent atmosphere. Townsville also had games with a decent atmosphere with 6 - 7 000.

Sometimes the bigger stadia in the bigger cities with sparsely filled stands seem drab. 

No secret there, they are boring as can be more often than not, players noticeably lift with the crowd, I remember the first say 76-8 seasons Mariners- Newcastle games were a derby to look forward too, now the magic is gone.
I suspect the driving factor has really been the reluctance by these clubs to spend money on better players that deliver. We are heading for a Scottish Premier league model without promotion/relegation and I'm sure when the entry criteria is released it will favour populated areas with big budget  promises in toe. 
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krones3 - 22 Nov 2016 7:59 PM
I'll fly down to the apple island for the first A league season game. Looking forward to it.
One piece of advice get yourself a great coach don't skimp on this he will set you up for ever , pay peanuts get monkeys (look what happened to fury)👌🏾

ummmmmmmmmmm i'm sorry but the best thing about the Fury was their head coach. Franz Straka was a great coach who did a lot with such a shoe-string budget and player depth at the club. His engagement with the fans was brilliant and of course his baige suit jacket was something to behold. I wish he was still around in the A-League.


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