Tariffs! FFA should charge the Nix a fee or simply withhold the TV grant for as long as the license is in place...

Just make a 3+1 rule. 3 foreigners including the foreign nation of Australia, and 1 player from Oceania. Rest must be kiwis.

Club dead and buried by round 4.

Even better, tell FNZ and Oceania the Nix can stay but the FFA wont be contributing a cent towards the club, They will also need to cover away teams travel costs. That way all the saved money can go towards a new Aus team and FNZ and Oceania keep their professional team.

If they decline to do this, then obviously the Nix arent as important as they claim

Just replace them already, every season they’re an embarrassment. Zero benefit to Australia football, we don’t owe NZ or Oceania anything.

The beauty of the franchise system. 

FFA don't contribute to the club. The club gets its share of TV revenue after FFA take a cut. HAL teams are subsidising the FFA, not the other way round.

Australia was invited to Asia to grow the region as they were a larger country with sports investment, decent players in Europe (such as Viduka and Kewell) and was of benefit to Asia. It was a two way relationship

Since then however we have seen:
. Failing mens teams at all levels
. The Socceroos finishing 3rd in their world cup group
. A 9 team single tier league
. A 6 team national cup competition
. A 5 Visa rule instead of a 3+1 rule
. Salary cap
. Failure at the ACL (with only 2 exceptions)
. Continually falling behind Asian nations in terms of quality and growth

New Zealand wasn't allowed to join Asia as it would have been a one way thing. But Australia has turned out the same

We might play in Asia and have a fairer world cup path but we are very much an Oceania nation. A new Zealand team makes sense

@ Bluebird

Aren’t you trying a bit hard to beat up Australia there?

- Failing mens teams at all levels
(Apart from the Asian Cup win 3 years ago and a hidden agenda is revealed by excluding the Matilda’s who are a raging success)
. The Socceroos finishing 3rd in their world cup group
(a big so what, most of Asia didn’t qualify and Australia went on to succeed in the knock out stages, I would say AFC is very pleased with that)
. A 9 team single tier league
(Again, a bit of a so what, we’d all like more but some countries don’t have 9. Philippine’s are moving to 6 with a history of clubs falling over. And again, we’re running a 9 team women’s Comp the envy of a lot of Asia ... you can’t ignore women’s football, it’s high on the AFCs agenda and Australia is leading the way in many regards)
. A 6 team national cup competition
(Pretty sure the FFA Cup is nearly 700 Clubs)
. A 5 Visa rule instead of a 3+1 rule
(So what, few countries have 3+1, China allows 5 visa players in a 4+1 and will move to a straight 4 next season with only 3 allowed on the pitch at the same time?
. Salary cap
(Yeah Meh, I don’t see the AFC waking up this morning worrying about this one)
. Failure at the ACL (with only 2 exceptions)
(Again Meh, how well do most non Chinese, Japanese and Korean nations do??)
. Continually falling behind Asian nations in terms of quality and growth
(I agree with this but we’re not going backwards, so it’s not an AFC problem).

So on that list there’s nothing to keep AFC awake at night worrying about. The one issue that does bother them, Congress, didn’t even make your list and it should.

@waz

The problem with ticking off each item at a macro level or dismissing its importance is you fail to realise that all of these are happening at the same time

1 Asian cup win doesn't hide the fact that all other mens national teams are failing
Australia was chosen as the role of big fish. Finishing 3rd in their group is inexcusable
Comparing us to the Phillipines shows how far we have fallen behind
Asia does not see the FFA cup. Our national cup comp is 6 teams
Again, comparing us to small teams in ACL performance when our purpose was to lift the grade

As for your point about congress - so the most important thing to you is not how the badly sport is run but who gets to vote on it being run badly

Either way, my point was that money could be used to fund a Australian team instead. The Nix can take over the NZ tv deal and fund all other costs with the help of Oceania/NZ Football if its so important to have a Pro team in the region.

Its the only fair compromise for both parties tbh. The "Benefit" for an aussie team having them in the league would be having travel costs covered, and the fox tv deal. The "benefit" for the nix, oceania and Nz Football would be they have a pro team and dont have to support an entire league. I would argue that any visa restrictions would need to be lifted so they could expand their scouting and include more oceania players. 

FOX looking at the ratings and realise they've been sold a lemon

Stupid Minions pushing for 2 new TV markets without having to trigger the Expansion payments

Co-incidence surely

Your license has conditions which have been failed to be met. You guys are gone, it's a matter of when not if now. 
This season was a chance to show you wanted to be in the league and would add value. Instead you've regressed and invested nothing. You get what you deserve.
You want to stay get 2 big name marquees as a minimum starting point. It's your only chance to be relevant to anyone. 

This season will be the first time we have actually got the spoon, So you cant base your option of one bad season. Plus 2 metrics have been meet our membership is up and the SKY TV money is up. 

These are the following metrics:

Memberships - ~10% rise (4,791 to 5,276)
Attendances - ~29% fall (8,042 to 6,211)
TV Viewers - can't be fucked compiling these stats but last week's game against WSW was only 23k so you can draw your own conclusions
Broadcast Revenue - ~67% rise ($180k to $300k)

What would the FFA prefer - an extra $120k (barely pays for the cleaners at FFA HQ) or not having crowds of 6k tainting the league's image?

I'd think 2012/2013 was the first time, but stand to be corrected?
And wouldn't say the spoon means that is the only bad season ... 10th, 7th, 9th, 4th, 9th, 10th.
However, my team is only marginally better, not winning the spoon but pretty much every A League season - except 1 - has been considered a bad season and seen us regularly fail to meet expectations.

I honestly don't see what 2 big name marquees would do. What effect would ADP or Ono etc. been if they were in Wgtn? More important getting a winning team.

Correct, the kid doesn't even watch his own club play.

07/08*
12/13

* - first season and only a few months from startup
Hopefully that's it.

Wanderers were premiers in their first season.

But we've been conditioned to accept excuses from Wellington. 

Ticking off each at a macro level? tf? How about pointing out mistakes that stick out like dogs' balls, like "failing teams at all levels" who just happen to be the current champions of their confederation? We have in recent times won the highest international and club prizes in the confederation. If that's not good enough for you then what is.

Nice of you to combat the present participle "failing" with the past verb "accomplished"

While you ride the success of what the Socceroos did years ago you can safely ignore everything they have failed to do since, everything the Olyroos have failed to do, and the Joeys etc...

The womens team is the only one with success based on the low investment into the womens game in Asia. But much like the mens game has caught up in other nations, we will lose ground in the womens game - particularly as the FFA find ways to make sure Adelaide can win a title instead of ensuring our star line up can be condensed in 2-3 teams

By your logic its hard to criticise the FFA based on what they did in the past. Sure the games shit now but its still better than the NSL

Unfortunately seems like we'll have to wait until it IS as shit as the NSL before something will ever change

Yeah, but we didn't get any extra visa players and had less time

Other then Victory, Nix are the most stable club in the league. We are Just having a bad year again.

As hard as we are trying to be stable, the knife in our back is making things more difficult.

It's easy to be stable when you set the bar so low.

Significantly lower than every other club. 

The bottom of the compost heap is always stable