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looks like agar was underbowled
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Aussie have been bundled out for 214. Bangladesh with the 47 run lead.
Maxwell probably the silliest dismissal of the day (stumped) but at least he was trying to be positive. Handscomb looked ok but got out in the 30s.
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Pretty good day for Bangladesh. Shakib took 5 wickets and has a 5-for against every test nation.
We managed to grab one wicket before the close.
One positive -Agar batted well at number 8. His 41 probably kept us competitive in the game.
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+xWarner needs to go and watch this clip of Matthew Hayden facing the spinners in India in 2001. Watch how he either plays the big sweep shot or uses his feet to smash it down the ground. https://youtu.be/nPSbuMHKbxcWarner, by contrast, just tries to camp in his crease. Haydos was fearsome with the bat
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+xPretty good day for Bangladesh. Shakib took 5 wickets and has a 5-for against every test nation. We managed to grab one wicket before the close. One positive -Agar batted well at number 8. His 41 probably kept us competitive in the game. Are we seriously loosing to Bangladesh?? That's disgraceful, granted they're at home but come on. I remember agar from his 98? Batting at number 11 in the ashes. Haven't watched a great deal of cricket since then.
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losing to bangladesh is pretty poor
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+xlosing to bangladesh is pretty poor Could be worse, it could be in football
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+x+xKhawaja has run himself out second ball. Stupidity. That's usman for ya Welcome to the cricket section, Tom Rogic's Left Foot. Usman's footwork against spinners is often too static.
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+xAussie have been bundled out for 214. Bangladesh with the 47 run lead. Maxwell probably the silliest dismissal of the day (stumped) but at least he was trying to be positive. Handscomb looked ok but got out in the 30s. Smith playing down the wrong line wasn't too good either. The ball was there to be hit, but Smith played down the wrong line. For a player of Smith's calibre it was a shocker! In the second dig the captain has looked more composed, if a trifle lucky. Warner's form looks like his best on the subcontinent in this second dig. His brutal batting has forced them into bowling mistakes. More bad balls have been bowled by Bangladesh as Warner has put the pressure back on them. His punishment of loose balls has been savage, which is starting to cause panic in Bangladesh. Until Smith has been at the crease with Warner, we have often looked brittle. No other Australian batsman outside these two have played over 24 tests - Kawaja. The Australian batting line up is very inexperienced.
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+x+x+xKhawaja has run himself out second ball. Stupidity. That's usman for ya Welcome to the cricket section, Tom Rogic's Left Foot. Usman's footwork against spinners is often too static too. I thought he was going to be one of the worlds best by now, thanks! I hope it picks up soon
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+x+xPretty good day for Bangladesh. Shakib took 5 wickets and has a 5-for against every test nation. We managed to grab one wicket before the close. One positive -Agar batted well at number 8. His 41 probably kept us competitive in the game. Are we seriously loosing to Bangladesh?? That's disgraceful, granted they're at home but come on. I remember agar from his 98? Batting at number 11 in the ashes. Haven't watched a great deal of cricket since then. It is pretty even now at stumps on the third day. As long as Warner and Smith stay there we are on top. Australia has hammered them in the second innings. Many Australians don't realise how crap we are in the subcontinent. Some stats appeared on Fox for the average number of runs per wicket from all ten test playing nations in the four subcontinental nations in the last 10 - 20 years. We are the worst! India top the averages with 40 runs scored per wicket taken on average. Australia is bottom, tenth, with an average of 26 runs scored for every wicket lost. Many Australians who don't have play TV only watch us play test cricket in Australia. We are good on bouncy pitches at home, because hardly anyone plays on them. We are currently the worst team in India, Pakistan ( UAE), Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, on turning wickets.
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+xlooks like agar was underbowled Lyon has taken 6 for about 80 in the second innings. He has taken 9 for about 150 in both innings. He has slowed down his speed in the second innings, so most balls are about 85 kph instead of his 90 in the first innings. Are you getting a stream over there, Grazor?
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+x+x+x+xKhawaja has run himself out second ball. Stupidity. That's usman for ya Welcome to the cricket section, Tom Rogic's Left Foot. Usman's footwork against spinners is often too static too. I thought he was going to be one of the worlds best by now, thanks! I hope it picks up soon Usman seems to be effective against pace on bouncy Aussie pitches.
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+xlosing to bangladesh is pretty poor Not much in it at stumps on day three. With Australia 2 for over 100 and only about 160 behind, things are looking up. Warner and Smith batting together, and with their eye in, seems like we are on top. They've scored about 80 in a very short time. Warner has 70 odd off only 50 odd balls! The crowd has been silenced and Bangladesh were dropping their heads in the last 10 overs before stumps.
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Much better. A good Performance from Warner in the second innings. He is being a lot more positive and setting the tone rather than letting the spinners just bowl at him. When you play aggressively it can throw the bowlers off their length.
Lyon bowled beautifully. Now he has figured out how to bowl in the subcontinent his average will head south.
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great fightback shame I can't watch!
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+x+x+xPretty good day for Bangladesh. Shakib took 5 wickets and has a 5-for against every test nation. We managed to grab one wicket before the close. One positive -Agar batted well at number 8. His 41 probably kept us competitive in the game. Are we seriously loosing to Bangladesh?? That's disgraceful, granted they're at home but come on. I remember agar from his 98? Batting at number 11 in the ashes. Haven't watched a great deal of cricket since then. It is pretty even now at stumps on the third day. As long as Warner and Smith stay there we are on top. Australia has hammered them in the second innings. Many Australians don't realise how crap we are in the subcontinent. Some stats appeared on Fox for the average number of runs per wicket from all ten test playing nations in the four subcontinental nations in the last 10 - 20 years. We are the worst! India top the averages with 40 runs scored per wicket taken on average. Australia is bottom, tenth, with an average of 26 runs scored for every wicket lost. Many Australians who don't have play TV only watch us play test cricket in Australia. We are good on bouncy pitches at home, because hardly anyone plays on them. We are currently the worst team in India, Pakistan ( UAE), Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, on turning wickets. amazingly we have been pretty competitive despite that probably because of our bowling Also india served up moonscape pitches so perhaps they doctor their pitches for us more (or the sri lanka series was bad enough to drop our average)
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I'm in Japan currently and I seen what I think was a professional cricket match happening? Do they have a team?
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Excellent hundred by Warner, he obviously was listening to my advice! Was a lot more positive with his footwork.
Aussies are 3 down with 100 more runs to get. Smith and Handscomb at the crease
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Another collapse, 66 runs needed 3 wickets remaining.
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Historic moment for Bangladesh cricket - their first test win over Australia.
. Shakib cut a swathe through us again and we got bowled out 20 runs short. He finishes man of the match after scoring 84 and taking two five wicket hauls. Huge performance by him and all the other Bangladesh bowlers.
Feel sorry for Pat cummins who scored 33no but ran out of partners.
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agar and cummins batted well. O'keefe is pretty good too
I wish we had neville in the squad. I was against him being dropped he was showing improvement. Wade's poor batting is affecting the balance of the team
Renshaw and maxwell have at different times shown promise on the subcontinent. They should come good
khawaja who bats in such a key position is a worry
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I wish we had neville in the squad. I was against him being dropped he was showing improvement. Wade's poor batting is affecting the balance of the team
We have Wade back for Tasmania. Although the conditions were difficult, Wade's keeping wasn't as good as Nevill's against Bangladesh. It seems our main problem is a dearth of quality batters, at home and away, in the the 26 - 34 year old age group. Only Smith are Warner are experienced and high quality. Even Warner has struggled on the subcontinent. The opener, Renshaw is too inexperienced. He has been selected at a very young age because those older, are deficient in quality. Warner - experienced, but often struggles on subcontinental pitches, although outstanding in his last innings of this game. Khawaja - just coming back into the team. is far better on bouncy Aussie pitches and against pace than subcontinental spin. His footwork isn't nimble enough. Smith - our best player in home and away conditions, but didn't deliver in this game. Australia is too reliant on him. Hanscomb - too inexperienced, but like Renshaw has talent. Many batters fade though as international bowlers work them out. Maxwell - looks to have talent, but again is too inexperienced. Wade - was selected for supposedly having superior batting to Nevill, but struggled with both bat and keeping in this game. The main problem is bouncy Aussie pitches in general, and Perth in particular. Too many mediocre Shield pace bowlers look good in Aussie conditions and do the lion's share of Shield bowling. They would struggle in all four subcontinental nations. The fact Agar plays for Australia, but can barely get a bowl at the WACA in home games is counterproductive for national interests. Far too few spin bowlers pay Shield cricket - and in conditions that favour them. Our batter don't get enough experience in dealing with these conditions either. Too many mediocre pace bowlers have too easy a time getting wickets in the Shield. We could also look at more Shield teams - ACT and Northern Territory. For the powers that be to suggest going to Darwin just before a subcontinental tour to hone skill against spin, is ridiculous. Australian players need to play on pitches similar to the subcontinent at home under match conditions to improve. 4 out of 9 opposition Test nations play under similar conditions. The Windies wickets can also be a bit closer to the subcontinent too, in that they sometimes play low.
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+x Feel sorry for Pat cummins who scored 33no but ran out of partners. Cummins played better than most of the specialist batters.
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+x Lyon bowled beautifully. Now he has figured out how to bowl in the subcontinent his average will head south. Agree. He is our most important bowler ATM in home and away Tests. I think he is the most experienced Test bowler too. A few years ago Lyon suggested that Aussie spinners hadn't learnt to back spin the ball as much as subcontinental bowlers.
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Bloody shit test result! Losing to Bangladesh is our worst loss. Although I might have heard they beat Sri Lanka at home in Sri Lanka.
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I wish we had neville in the squad. I was against him being dropped he was showing improvement. Wade's poor batting is affecting the balance of the team
We have Wade back for Tasmania. Although the conditions were difficult, Wade's keeping wasn't as good as Nevill's against Bangladesh. It seems our main problem is a dearth of quality batters, at home and away, in the the 26 - 34 year old age group. Only Smith are Warner are experienced and high quality. Even Warner has struggled on the subcontinent. The opener, Renshaw is too inexperienced. He has been selected at a very young age because those older, are deficient in quality. Warner - experienced, but often struggles on subcontinental pitches, although outstanding in his last innings of this game. Khawaja - just coming back into the team. is far better on bouncy Aussie pitches and against pace than subcontinental spin. His footwork isn't nimble enough. Smith - our best player in home and away conditions, but didn't deliver in this game. Australia is too reliant on him. Hanscomb - too inexperienced, but like Renshaw has talent. Many batters fade though as international bowlers work them out. Maxwell - looks to have talent, but again is too inexperienced. Wade - was selected for supposedly having superior batting to Nevill, but struggled with both bat and keeping in this game. The main problem is bouncy Aussie pitches in general, and Perth in particular. Too many mediocre Shield pace bowlers look good in Aussie conditions and do the lion's share of Shield bowling. They would struggle in all four subcontinental nations. The fact Agar plays for Australia, but can barely get a bowl at the WACA in home games is counterproductive for national interests. Far too few spin bowlers pay Shield cricket - and in conditions that favour them. Our batter don't get enough experience in dealing with these conditions either. Too many mediocre pace bowlers have too easy a time getting wickets in the Shield. We could also look at more Shield teams - ACT and Northern Territory. For the powers that be to suggest going to Darwin just before a subcontinental tour to hone skill against spin, is ridiculous. Australian players need to play on pitches similar to the subcontinent at home under match conditions to improve. 4 out of 9 opposition Test nations play under similar conditions. The Windies wickets can also be a bit closer to the subcontinent too, in that they sometimes play low. Renshaw and Handscombe all though not that experienced look our most comfortable batters on the sub continent, they just need to learn to turn their good starts into a big score. The big issue though is Khawaja or whoever bats at 3 and 6 and also the keeper, crucial positions which continually lead to batting collapses and the inability to turn a poor or average score into a good one. Maxwell seems like he could be decent in the sub continent but we are really lacking a couple more people who can bat consistently which means it is about time we look for someone new instead of playing the Marshes or Khawaja and expecting different results.
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I wish we had neville in the squad. I was against him being dropped he was showing improvement. Wade's poor batting is affecting the balance of the team
We have Wade back for Tasmania. Although the conditions were difficult, Wade's keeping wasn't as good as Nevill's against Bangladesh. It seems our main problem is a dearth of quality batters, at home and away, in the the 26 - 34 year old age group. Only Smith are Warner are experienced and high quality. Even Warner has struggled on the subcontinent. The opener, Renshaw is too inexperienced. He has been selected at a very young age because those older, are deficient in quality. Warner - experienced, but often struggles on subcontinental pitches, although outstanding in his last innings of this game. Khawaja - just coming back into the team. is far better on bouncy Aussie pitches and against pace than subcontinental spin. His footwork isn't nimble enough. Smith - our best player in home and away conditions, but didn't deliver in this game. Australia is too reliant on him. Hanscomb - too inexperienced, but like Renshaw has talent. Many batters fade though as international bowlers work them out. Maxwell - looks to have talent, but again is too inexperienced. Wade - was selected for supposedly having superior batting to Nevill, but struggled with both bat and keeping in this game. The main problem is bouncy Aussie pitches in general, and Perth in particular. Too many mediocre Shield pace bowlers look good in Aussie conditions and do the lion's share of Shield bowling. They would struggle in all four subcontinental nations. The fact Agar plays for Australia, but can barely get a bowl at the WACA in home games is counterproductive for national interests. Far too few spin bowlers pay Shield cricket - and in conditions that favour them. Our batter don't get enough experience in dealing with these conditions either. Too many mediocre pace bowlers have too easy a time getting wickets in the Shield. We could also look at more Shield teams - ACT and Northern Territory. For the powers that be to suggest going to Darwin just before a subcontinental tour to hone skill against spin, is ridiculous. Australian players need to play on pitches similar to the subcontinent at home under match conditions to improve. 4 out of 9 opposition Test nations play under similar conditions. The Windies wickets can also be a bit closer to the subcontinent too, in that they sometimes play low. Maxwell seems like he could be decent in the sub continent but we are really lacking a couple more people who can bat consistently which means it is about time we look for someone new instead of playing the Marshes or Khawaja and expecting different results. I thought Khawaja had settled into the team as a regular. However, it may have been as a batter on home pitches as opposed to the differing subcontinental conditions. Perplexingly, it may appear that Shaun Marsh, who only has Shield average of 39 plain every second game on the bouncy WACA, is more effective on the subcontinental pitches than in Australia.
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I wish we had neville in the squad. I was against him being dropped he was showing improvement. Wade's poor batting is affecting the balance of the team
We have Wade back for Tasmania. Although the conditions were difficult, Wade's keeping wasn't as good as Nevill's against Bangladesh. It seems our main problem is a dearth of quality batters, at home and away, in the the 26 - 34 year old age group. Only Smith are Warner are experienced and high quality. Even Warner has struggled on the subcontinent. The opener, Renshaw is too inexperienced. He has been selected at a very young age because those older, are deficient in quality. Warner - experienced, but often struggles on subcontinental pitches, although outstanding in his last innings of this game. Khawaja - just coming back into the team. is far better on bouncy Aussie pitches and against pace than subcontinental spin. His footwork isn't nimble enough. Smith - our best player in home and away conditions, but didn't deliver in this game. Australia is too reliant on him. Hanscomb - too inexperienced, but like Renshaw has talent. Many batters fade though as international bowlers work them out. Maxwell - looks to have talent, but again is too inexperienced. Wade - was selected for supposedly having superior batting to Nevill, but struggled with both bat and keeping in this game. The main problem is bouncy Aussie pitches in general, and Perth in particular. Too many mediocre Shield pace bowlers look good in Aussie conditions and do the lion's share of Shield bowling. They would struggle in all four subcontinental nations. The fact Agar plays for Australia, but can barely get a bowl at the WACA in home games is counterproductive for national interests. Far too few spin bowlers pay Shield cricket - and in conditions that favour them. Our batter don't get enough experience in dealing with these conditions either. Too many mediocre pace bowlers have too easy a time getting wickets in the Shield. We could also look at more Shield teams - ACT and Northern Territory. For the powers that be to suggest going to Darwin just before a subcontinental tour to hone skill against spin, is ridiculous. Australian players need to play on pitches similar to the subcontinent at home under match conditions to improve. 4 out of 9 opposition Test nations play under similar conditions. The Windies wickets can also be a bit closer to the subcontinent too, in that they sometimes play low. Maxwell seems like he could be decent in the sub continent but we are really lacking a couple more people who can bat consistently which means it is about time we look for someone new instead of playing the Marshes or Khawaja and expecting different results. I thought Khawaja had settled into the team as a regular. However, it may have been as a batter on home pitches as opposed to the differing subcontinental conditions. Perplexingly, it may appear that Shaun Marsh, who only has Shield average of 39 plain every second game on the bouncy WACA, is more effective on the subcontinental pitches than in Australia. Khawaja seems a good choice on a flat track but has always looked completely lost when the pitch is turning, play him at home if we must but i'd definitely be looking for a replacement. The fight and desire Renshaw and Handscombe have brought to the team already has been brilliant, time to give a couple others the chance to sink or swim if you ask me because lets face it for the next test series at home we all know the likes of Mitch Marsh will be playing again.
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stupid thing about selecting wade for his batting is that he has a lower first class average than neville (he also did at the time neville was dropped and he was starting to show some grit with the bat)
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