Australia vs Syria


Australia vs Syria

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melbourne_terrace - 6 Sep 2017 7:27 AM
Waz - 6 Sep 2017 6:47 AM

As it should be.

Has Waz given up advocating for Suncorp? 
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nah, it's not about individual games - much as I'd like either of (hopefully) the next two games up here I've no issue with either being in Melb/Sydney.

What I do have an issue with is two WCQ phases going past without a single game in QLD. That is unacceptable and shows the self-serving mentality that drives our game. It's no wonder we can't break out of being a niche sport.
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paulbagzFC - 6 Sep 2017 6:22 AM
bohemia - 6 Sep 2017 6:01 AM

Fucking this.

Everyone reckoned we'd destroy Thailand.

-PB

The only thing "destroyed" was me
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grazorblade - 6 Sep 2017 6:43 AM
southmelb - 6 Sep 2017 6:28 AM

I agree and luck had a bit to do with it (hitting the post 3 times and 3 times cleared off the line)

having said that I wonder if there has been a more inefficient performance from any wc qualifiers than scoring 2 from 45 shots......

Finishing is a worry and I don't see it getting better in the next few years

Did I tell you about the best root I "almost" got?
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Small margins will matter here. I think if it can be hyped up at Sydney will give the Socceroos an advantage. The away leg is what worries me about the Socceroos they cannot seem to keep a clean sheet. Our defenders make at least 5 massive mistakes per game, meaning there is a gaping goal for anyone who can hit straight.
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Syria. Lmfao.

If I gave a shit anymore the prospect of USA away would be absolutely delicious.
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Why is it through the entire campaign when we attack we laabor so hard for our goals but whenever the opposition attacks we look like conceding?  Even to Thailand.
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grazorblade - 6 Sep 2017 6:43 AM
southmelb - 6 Sep 2017 6:28 AM

I agree and luck had a bit to do with it (hitting the post 3 times and 3 times cleared off the line)

having said that I wonder if there has been a more inefficient performance from any wc qualifiers than scoring 2 from 45 shots......

Finishing is a worry and I don't see it getting better in the next few years

I thought it was 30 plus shots.

Was it 45 shots?
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Decentric - 6 Sep 2017 8:39 AM
grazorblade - 6 Sep 2017 6:43 AM

I thought it was 30 plus shots.

Was it 45 shots?

yes 4.....ty.....5
never seen anything like that. Part was bad luck since we hit the post but I would expect a top class team to convert 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 shots
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grazorblade - 6 Sep 2017 8:43 AM
Decentric - 6 Sep 2017 8:39 AM

yes 4.....ty.....5
never seen anything like that. Part was bad luck since we hit the post but I would expect a top class team to convert 1 in 5 to 1 in 6 shots

Wow!

That puts the game in context. We should've won by enough to sail into Russia.

In a FFA coaching  conference the average conversion rate is about 7 attempts per goal. Using that criteria we should've scored 6 or 7 against Thailand.
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Decentric - 6 Sep 2017 8:49 AM
grazorblade - 6 Sep 2017 8:43 AM

Wow!

That puts the game in context. We should've won by enough to sail into Russia.

In a FFA coaching  conference the average conversion rate is about 7 attempts per goal. Using that criteria we should've scored 6 or 7 against Thailand.

It really puts things into context. The worry is I don't see improvement in finishing at youth level 
I only see improvement in the ability to create chances
So perhaps in 10 years we make 90 shots for 3 goals against thailand…..
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we might have had 45 shots but how many where sort of longer range shots. we had hardly any crosses into the box compared to what we should've/could've, thats what angers me the most. Especially considering our 2 goals did both come from crosses. Its ridiculous how we constantly forego crossing to try and play the ball through them in the middle. especially against thai midgets.
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"Thai Midgets" lol .... they hardly looked short and they come from a nation where the national sport is'Muay Thai' or basically kick boxing. We on the other hand consider our national sport to be glorified "catch". Racial stereotyping our opponents won't help 😉
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Enzo Bearzot - 6 Sep 2017 8:28 AM
Why is it through the entire campaign when we attack we laabor so hard for our goals but whenever the opposition attacks we look like conceding?  Even to Thailand.

Speed.

We plod around the park passing here and there.

Patently clear last night, in doing that, the Thais got behind the ball and parked the bus and let us take our 30 shots over the bar.

They break quickly and get behind us and score a goal.

Simples.







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hotrod - 6 Sep 2017 9:15 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 6 Sep 2017 8:28 AM

Speed.

We plod around the park passing here and there.

Patently clear last night, in doing that, the Thais got behind the ball and parked the bus and let us take our 30 shots over the bar.

They break quickly and get behind us and score a goal.

Simples.



part of it is the psychological strain it takes on a supporter knowing you need the perfect opportunity to score and you only then have a 50-50 shot or hitting an open goal from 5 metres. When the opposition has the ball they rarely look like missing even if the chance is half as good

we are pretty good at creating chances to be fair
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Not sure where the Syria game will be, but I'd be surprised if it was Sydney, as they'll definitely get the home concacaf leg if we get that far. Aami is probably the most suitable venue for Syria, or Suncorp as they should be able to get a decent pitch seeing as though there will only be 1 game of league on it between now and then.
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I think theres a hoodoo on melbourne
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99 Problems - 6 Sep 2017 9:23 AM
Not sure where the Syria game will be, but I'd be surprised if it was Sydney, as they'll definitely get the home concacaf leg if we get that far. Aami is probably the most suitable venue for Syria, or Suncorp as they should be able to get a decent pitch seeing as though there will only be 1 game of league on it between now and then.

I think both potential play off games will be in Sydney.
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50cal_Puskàs - 6 Sep 2017 9:41 AM
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(NB: The game that echoed last night's disaster the most -- Iran '97 -- was played in Sydney...)

Nope...I was at the MCG to watch this debacle!
And from memory everyone blamed the serial pest who tore the net down for killing Australia's momentum...

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5th October away
10th October home

Venues tbd
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On paper we should beat Syria,but with three at the back i can't see us beating a Concaf team.The best we can do against decent teams is draw.That's our form .So to expect us to all of a sudden score and not concede in a high pressure playoff,with jetlag is like expecting us to beat Thailand by more than one goal.With three at the back it just wont happen.
So either Ange is sacked or he eats humble pie,which is lower on his diet than cockroach cluster pie with anthrax ripple topping.u
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johnszasz - 6 Sep 2017 6:07 AM


Lets hope it doesn't rain....

Wow that is not middle eastern conditions! Yep October is the middle of the rainy season!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malacca_City#Climate

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99 Problems - 6 Sep 2017 9:23 AM
Not sure where the Syria game will be, but I'd be surprised if it was Sydney, as they'll definitely get the home concacaf leg if we get that far. Aami is probably the most suitable venue for Syria, or Suncorp as they should be able to get a decent pitch seeing as though there will only be 1 game of league on it between now and then.

yep. 100% Sydney will get the CONCACAF game because of a contract the NSW Govt has with the FFA. But does the contract stipulate all playoff games or only the playoff that decides the world cup spot? Waz will hate this, but after the decent atmosphere last night, I reckon there is a good argument to hold it at AAMI park to build on it.   
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Feed_The_Brox - 6 Sep 2017 10:40 AM
99 Problems - 6 Sep 2017 9:23 AM

yep. 100% Sydney will get the CONCACAF game because of a contract the NSW Govt has with the FFA. But does the contract stipulate all playoff games or only the playoff that decides the world cup spot? Waz will hate this, but after the decent atmosphere last night, I reckon there is a good argument to hold it at AAMI park to build on it.   

Agreed, AAMI to hold the asia playoff and NSW to host the CONCACAF playoff.
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Pack of drama queens, calm down.
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huddo - 6 Sep 2017 9:30 AM
I think theres a hoodoo on melbourne

mmm - they did win last night.
most recent wcq play off there...beat Uruaguy 1-0

my memory is crap but I cannot remember what is the last time they lost a game for points in Melbourne. Been a few draws over the years (Iran, Japan) but also a lot of wins



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It wont happen but id like to see us go to a 4231 away against syria with a focus on holding the ball up in the front third and getting midfielders up to support either Juric or cahill' Obviously there are a number of weeks before this game and a lot can happen in that time but:

----------------------------Langerak---------------------------------
Milligan---------Sainsbury----------Spira--------------Gersbach
----------------------Irvine-------------Mooy---------------------------
Kruse---------------------Rogic----------------------------Goodwin
-----------------------------Juric---------------------------------------

I've aimed for defensive strength but also with guys technically good enough to damage the syrians in the final third. Ideally allowing Rogic more space to operate in.

At home i'd risk a little more and aim to get on the front foot from the outset:

------------------------------Ryan-----------------------------------
Leckie------------Sains--------------Spira--------------Gersbach
---------------------milligan-----------mooy-----------------------
Troisi----------------------------------------------------------Kruse
----------------------Maclaren-------Juric--------------------------

I feel by inverting troisi and kruse they'll have the ability to come in and strike on their more natural foot while opening up the space in behind for both leckie and gersbach to exploit and hopefully god willing get decent service into the box.

If we can then get the lead we need at home we can sacrifice juric or maclaren, play on the counter and utilise another midfielder like luongo or irvine to protect the lead.

Also a goodwin type winger to replace kruse and give us a bit more protection in wider areas.

Pie in the sky stuff though, i fully expect more of the same bullshit


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Nah, play this game in Brisbane, then the decider against CONCACEF in Sydney! We (Brisbane) haven't had a qualifier in years.
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Waz - 6 Sep 2017 10:20 AM
5th October away10th October home Venues tbd

Hopefully Brisbane doesn't get it.


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hames_jetfield - 6 Sep 2017 11:25 AM
Waz - 6 Sep 2017 10:20 AM

Hopefully Brisbane doesn't get it.

Queensland Govt don't want and Suncorp doesn't need Soccer matches

This will not bring in any overseas money to the local economy

It will be left to Sydney and Melbourne to waste taxpayers cash on a dick measuring contest
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