Who has the best group of youth players?


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As per the title. Who's got the best prospects to develop and who will be the break our stars?

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Can we start a best WAG one next???
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RedKat - 18 Sep 2017 5:06 PM
As per the title. Who's got the best prospects to develop and who will be the break our stars?

Melbourne City are accumulating a number of young players from COE and their own Academy. They won the NYL last year with a very young squad and have brought in even more players since then. 
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Torak - 18 Sep 2017 5:07 PM
Can we start a best WAG one next???

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Torak - 18 Sep 2017 5:07 PM
Can we start a best WAG one next???

For the youth teams?

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For players that haven't made an appearence in the A-League Peter Kekeris, Charles William and Brenton Fox are highly rated for us, Michael Glassock as well. Ryan Peterson, Lachie Wales, Adam Pearce, Adam Berry, Josh Bingham and Trent Buhagiar have all played for the first team with varying degrees of success in the last year. Tom Heward-Belle is also at Sydney FC now, where he was previously unwanted. 
Melbourne City look to be best at luring talent though I'm not too sure about their development processes. Personally I think the Mariners are best at adding value to young players and actually developing them, though I don't think you can say we have the best youth players because Sydney FC and the Wanderers get first pick in NSW. 
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JoyfulPenguin - 18 Sep 2017 8:17 PM
For players that haven't made an appearence in the A-League Peter Kekeris, Charles William and Brenton Fox are highly rated for us, Michael Glassock as well. Ryan Peterson, Lachie Wales, Adam Pearce, Adam Berry, Josh Bingham and Trent Buhagiar have all played for the first team with varying degrees of success in the last year. Tom Heward-Belle is also at Sydney FC now, where he was previously unwanted. 
Melbourne City look to be best at luring talent though I'm not too sure about their development processes. Personally I think the Mariners are best at adding value to young players and actually developing them, though I don't think you can say we have the best youth players because Sydney FC and the Wanderers get first pick in NSW. 

Your position in the pecking order isn't bad. Sydney and the Wanderers will pick up most of the best young players but never give them a chance as they usually have stronger senior players. The Mariners and Jets can offer starts to young frustrated players at both Sydney clubs so each of the smaller clubs can effectively feed their senior squad based on the development work of three a-league academies.
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Glory have a long history of developing outstanding young players .... for other teams.
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JoyfulPenguin - 18 Sep 2017 8:17 PM
For players that haven't made an appearence in the A-League Peter Kekeris, Charles William and Brenton Fox are highly rated for us, Michael Glassock as well. Ryan Peterson, Lachie Wales, Adam Pearce, Adam Berry, Josh Bingham and Trent Buhagiar have all played for the first team with varying degrees of success in the last year. Tom Heward-Belle is also at Sydney FC now, where he was previously unwanted. 
Melbourne City look to be best at luring talent though I'm not too sure about their development processes. Personally I think the Mariners are best at adding value to young players and actually developing them, though I don't think you can say we have the best youth players because Sydney FC and the Wanderers get first pick in NSW. 

Any of those close to getting minutes this year? And where are the all at. 

Ive heard commenters on our forward say Hewerd-Belle hasnt been that great for us and both our youth keepers this season were pretty sub standard and kept getting dropped for each other. I cant remember if it was Hewerd-Belle or our other keeper that just had no command of their box at all. 

I think for Sydney, our jewel was Trent Iredale before he went to the Netherlands. Hopefully will see Kuleski and Zuvela get some minutes. Lokli-Ngoy also has been on the fringes and probably due for some minutes. None of those had close to the hype of Iredale though. 

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Why ask the question if they're never going to play?
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Aljay - 18 Sep 2017 10:31 PM
Why ask the question if they're never going to play?

Well from the first post Im asking whos both the best youth and likely to play

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As far as youth at Adelaide goes Lachlan Brook is probably the player with the most promise but he is unlikely to play much if he plays at all.

George Blackwood has been playing well up front in preseason and FFA Cup matches and may get a chance with Baba still not fully match fit.

Konstandopoulos, Ocheing, O'Doherty and perhaps Warland are likely to get some time. Josh Mori is apparently training with the senior team but again is probably a long way from actually playing.
Last year lots of Adelaide youth come through both at Adelaide and other clubs, I don't think it is going to happen again this season.
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RedKat - 18 Sep 2017 10:04 PM
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Any of those close to getting minutes this year? And where are the all at. 

Ive heard commenters on our forward say Hewerd-Belle hasnt been that great for us and both our youth keepers this season were pretty sub standard and kept getting dropped for each other. I cant remember if it was Hewerd-Belle or our other keeper that just had no command of their box at all. 

I think for Sydney, our jewel was Trent Iredale before he went to the Netherlands. Hopefully will see Kuleski and Zuvela get some minutes. Lokli-Ngoy also has been on the fringes and probably due for some minutes. None of those had close to the hype of Iredale though. 
If Connor Pain goes down injured you will likely see Peter Kekeris get thrown in the deep end as we have literally no other left wingers. Charles William and Michael Glassock stepped up to our academy team from the U18s and looked fantastic but probably another year or two need for both. Brenton Fox has Bingham, Asdrubal, Buhagiar and Appiah in his positions but was our standout in the Academy this year not sure if Okon rates him though but might make an appearance if we have a few injuries or a nothing game. We released Peterson to the Northern Tigers in NPL 2 and he's done quite well there Okon didn't seem to think he was up to scratch, Lachie Wales doesn't seem rated by Okon and will probably be released once he gets too old for the NPL/NYL, Bingham showed some promise last year but really needs to deliver or he won't get another contract he hasn't been setting the house on fire in pre-season but has been trying hard, Adam Berry has been struggling in pre season and has four players ahead of him for two positions, Adam Pearce cost us the game against Blacktown City and is no where near ready for the A-League, Trent Buhagiar is a gun when on form but there are rumours that he got an ego from the praise last year and now wants out of his contract. 

Heward-Belle wasn't rated at the Mariners and was allowed to leave, he had slipped down the pecking order below Pearce and then Aidan Munford (Our 20s Keeper). Watching some of the Sydney NPL Team highlights he seems not ready for the A-League yet, brilliant one minute and horrific the next. I think he has potential but will need to harness it soon as he will quickly be too old for the NPL/NYL.


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Mariners.

Glover
De Silva
Rose
Buhagiar
Pain
Hoole
McGing
Ascroft
Roux
Bingham

They're all first-team players.
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Bowden - 18 Sep 2017 11:39 PM
Mariners.Glover De Silva RoseBuhagiarPain HooleMcGingAscroftRouxBingham They're all first-team players.

few of those guys are well into their early twenties 
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Arzani Should get decent minutes with Brandan injured
Genereau A chance to get minutes in midfield 
Pierias hopefully will start ahead of Muscat at RB 
Crowley Going to difficult for him but he was recently rewarded with a new contract
Tongyik seems to be down the pecking at CB but Malik and La Rocca are utter rubbish and should be benched early on in the season 
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Bowden - 18 Sep 2017 11:39 PM
Mariners.Glover De Silva RoseBuhagiarPain HooleMcGingAscroftRouxBingham They're all first-team players.

Pain, Hoole, McGing, Ascroft, Roux and Bingham are NOT youth. Still Glover, De Silva, Rose and Buhagiar is a good group.
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Gruen - 19 Sep 2017 12:02 AM
Bowden - 18 Sep 2017 11:39 PM

Pain, Hoole, McGing, Ascroft, Roux and Bingham are NOT youth. Still Glover, De Silva, Rose and Buhagiar is a good group.

Add Kye Rowles from the first team squad - likely starter as well 

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Oliver Sail, Sarpreet Singh and Logan Rogerson for Wellington Phoenix.

Wellington Phoenix FC

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nomates - 19 Sep 2017 12:48 AM
Oliver Sail, Sarpreet Singh and Logan Rogerson for Wellington Phoenix.

I'm picking Singh to light up the league this year and for Finkler to be a bench player by the mid point of the season.


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I like to think that title belongs to Melbourne City, they some of the best youngster in the country.

Arzani, Genreau, John Roberts, Najjarine, Tongyik, Pierias

Also there NYL team won the championship last season as well so they have a good stable coming through.
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Torak - 18 Sep 2017 5:07 PM
Can we start a best WAG one next???

Second.

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Depends on what metrics you want to use to measure quality. City have the best youth players. A few of them will get decent gametime too so that puts them ahead. 

SFC have a lot of outstanding youth players and have been pretty dominant in NSW, but most are unlikley to play for us in the HAL this season. This is where the HAL really needs a loan scheme so that young players can get game time at smaller clubs when their parent clubs can't give them the game-time they need to develop.

Lachlan Brook was meant to be the next big thing coming out of aussie football. You'd like to think he could get some game-time this season despite his age. de Silva, Antonis, Gersbach all played at a similar age. If he can't it would suggest he was talked up too much too early. 

The Mariners do give youth players the most opportunities, but then this comes to their own downfall results wise
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Barca4Life - 19 Sep 2017 9:51 AM
I like to think that title belongs to Melbourne City, they some of the best youngster in the country.

Arzani, Genreau, John Roberts, Najjarine, Tongyik, Pierias

Also there NYL team won the championship last season as well so they have a good stable coming through.

I agree, City even though they take a risk by doing so, play youth and give them a chance to learn and develop. There are some other players who are also pushing for a chance to play like keepers Delianov and Sozer and Metcalfe who is a really promising midfielder. I have heard some of these players maybe going out on loan to other CFG clubs to make sure they are playing. Definitely Melbourne City leading the way with their youth management, 


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Barca4Life - 19 Sep 2017 9:51 AM
I like to think that title belongs to Melbourne City, they some of the best youngster in the country.

Arzani, Genreau, John Roberts, Najjarine, Tongyik, Pierias

Also there NYL team won the championship last season as well so they have a good stable coming through.

There isn't a correlation between winning the NYL and having the "best" youth team or players; Sydney won it before that and look how many youth players they brought in to the first team (none?). Some clubs see the NYL as a trophy to win, others see it (correctly) as a vehicle to develop young players - two different things. A good example, Glory had were pushing for the NYL title a few years ago, they came east for a vital game, and sent 4 first team players to start to ensure the win, the trophy chase came at the expense of development.

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Barca4Life - 19 Sep 2017 9:51 AM

I agree, City even though they take a risk by doing so, play youth and give them a chance to learn and develop. There are some other players who are also pushing for a chance to play like keepers Delianov and Sozer and Metcalfe who is a really promising midfielder. I have heard some of these players maybe going out on loan to other CFG clubs to make sure they are playing. Definitely Melbourne City leading the way with their youth management, 


City have the best Academy set up, the mesure surely though is how many play in the A league, stay in the A league, and then leave the A league for better things. Too early to say that for CFG/City but there were a couple of bright players last season.

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kaufusi - 19 Sep 2017 11:07 AM
Depends on what metrics you want to use to measure quality. City have the best youth players. A few of them will get decent gametime too so that puts them ahead. 

SFC have a lot of outstanding youth players and have been pretty dominant in NSW, but most are unlikley to play for us in the HAL this season. This is where the HAL really needs a loan scheme so that young players can get game time at smaller clubs when their parent clubs can't give them the game-time they need to develop.

Lachlan Brook was meant to be the next big thing coming out of aussie football. You'd like to think he could get some game-time this season despite his age. de Silva, Antonis, Gersbach all played at a similar age. If he can't it would suggest he was talked up too much too early. 

The Mariners do give youth players the most opportunities, but then this comes to their own downfall results wise

Brook is 16 and he has already made his debut for Adelaide United.
Da Silva was younger when he made his debut but he was younger than Antonis and over a year younger than Gersbach. 
So it is total bullshit to start writing him off as a player.

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fanoffootball - 19 Sep 2017 6:40 PM

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I agree, City even though they take a risk by doing so, play youth and give them a chance to learn and develop. There are some other players who are also pushing for a chance to play like keepers Delianov and Sozer and Metcalfe who is a really promising midfielder. I have heard some of these players maybe going out on loan to other CFG clubs to make sure they are playing. Definitely Melbourne City leading the way with their youth management, 


Will be tuff for the young keepers to jump bouza and gelek but keepers do have a bit more time. Metcalfe is quality. With some luck some of the younger lads will get a run. Interesting to see if they do loan any players out. 
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Will be tuff for the young keepers to jump bouza and gelek but keepers do have a bit more time. Metcalfe is quality. With some luck some of the younger lads will get a run. Interesting to see if they do loan any players out. 

loan? 
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Jerks have Lachlan Jackson, Devante Clut & Nick Cowburn all apart of Josep Gombau's Olyroos setup.

Other "young" (not sure the cutoff?) players we have are: Daniel Alessi, Ivan Vujica, Kosta Petratos, Jake Adelson, Jack Duncan, Johnny Koutroumbis, Steven Ugarkovic, Ben Kantarovski (he is still only 25, he's been around fxxxing forever).
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