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DAVID DAVUTOVIC, Herald Sun FIFA breaks could be introduced next A-League season, with Football Federation Australia set to hold a workshop next week to debate the issue. A loan system between A-League clubs also looks set to be introduced in time for 2018-19, which will enable fringe players to move clubs in search of more game time. A-League chief Greg O’Rourke revealed that breaks during FIFA windows, as happens in most European leagues, is drawing closer. The Herald Sun on Monday revealed a “Project 2020” research document that had identified FIFA breaks as potentially being a circuit-breaker for Australia’s youth national teams. LAST CHANCE: Olyroos to go for broke against South Korea  An A-League break would help local Socceroos. (Mark Evans/Getty Images)Most international camps currently clash with A-League fixtures, while a ‘Festival of (international) Football’ during FIFA breaks could unlock commercial properties for FFA. “It (FIFA breaks) needs to be seriously considered,’’ O’Rourke said. “We need to sit down and understand if we do take breaks, which is becoming more likely to be honest, then what do we do with that break in content for both the fans, though both crowds and broadcast. “We’ve got a working group together which includes a few CEOs from the clubs, FFA people and PFA chief (John Didulica) which will hopefully be working towards something for next season. “There’s the challenges of A-League content but there’s also the challenges of A-League continuity.” Unable to playback videoAn unexpected error has occurred  Deadline looming for Cahill Didulica told Football Nation Radio that FIFA breaks had the players’ backing. “The players have been red hot in wanting to break for international breaks and it’s something we’ll continue to advocate for,’’ Didulica said. “We think the breaks should be there in the draw, it’s something we need to try and make work. What that ultimately looks like is a process.” O’Rourke revealed that a loan system had widespread support, but they stopped short of installing it in this January transfer window because clubs had not factored that in when recruiting in pre-season. “There is a lot of support for a loan system and all things being equal, we will have a loan system in place for the following season,’’ he said. “It’s a policy change that we’re talking with the clubs and PFA to work through what that would look like and to ensure problems are solved and there are no unintended negative consequence.”
A-League to consider FIFA breaks and player loan system between clubs | Herald Sun
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MarkfromCroydon
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If you had a 2nd division, you could have a break in the top division of the league, but allow the second division teams to play a round of matches. Allows the players in the top division who play in the national team to not miss any matches, and also gives boost to the second division by allowing them the limelight (aside from the national team match).
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The fact that loaning players is actually not allowed is an embarrassment to the league. The idea that transfers aren't allowed is just.. Well, words fail me.
Sort this shit out FFA. Or maybe that should be FFS.
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TheSelectFew
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Workshops? Why do you need fucking workshops for you moron. You are the supposed experts. Why are you paying third parties fuck sake.
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TheSelectFew
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Also we have a transfer window. It's the window of mutual consent.
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+xIf you had a 2nd division, you could have a break in the top division of the league, but allow the second division teams to play a round of matches. Allows the players in the top division who play in the national team to not miss any matches, and also gives boost to the second division by allowing them the limelight (aside from the national team match). Makes a bit too much sense that
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+xWorkshops? Why do you need fucking workshops for you moron. You are the supposed experts. Why are you paying third parties fuck sake. Well to be fair (in a roundabout sort of way) they're not acting like experts.... besides sounds more like FFA with the PFA and some of the HAL clubs are getting together for a pow wow and not any 3rd party consultants (though i did skim a bit). Imo that is fair enough as all 3 parties are all quite vested in the issue
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This is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering.
Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now.
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+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league.
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Based on the youth teams especially for the u23s, surely if they serious this is a must now no ifs or buts.
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+x+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league. Yeah might be getting hopes up again, but we haven't seen the FFA give this idea proper consideration before, despite it being brought up before and during every season, for years now. Graham Arnold has even given up contributing to the debate these days. And with the trend of things, wider pressure on them with the clubs, PFA and the results of the national teams - at this rate even Fox may have to give in and if there's National Teams football to fill the Telecast void during the breaks, then everybody wins.
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+x+x+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league. Yeah might be getting hopes up again, but we haven't seen the FFA give this idea proper consideration before, despite it being brought up before and during every season, for years now. And with the trend of things, wider pressure on them with the clubs, PFA and the results of the national teams - at this rate even Fox may have to give in and if there's National Teams football to fill the Telecast void during the breaks, then everybody wins. I'll believe when I see it. They signed a contract with Foxtel. Foxtel is under no obligation to change it. Lets wait and see if they angle all this as Foxtels fault.
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+x+x+x+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league. Yeah might be getting hopes up again, but we haven't seen the FFA give this idea proper consideration before, despite it being brought up before and during every season, for years now. And with the trend of things, wider pressure on them with the clubs, PFA and the results of the national teams - at this rate even Fox may have to give in and if there's National Teams football to fill the Telecast void during the breaks, then everybody wins. I'll believe when I see it. They signed a contract with Foxtel. Foxtel is under no obligation to change it. Lets wait and see if they angle all this as Foxtels fault. Good point, though perhaps by the 2019/20 season, they will be near four years into the six year deal, so perhaps being more further into the deal more room to negotiate some tweaks? Especially if two new teams are coming in that period aswell, there will naturally be fixture changes, some adjustment with that including the possibility of some more mid-week fixtures returning. With more teams, so more fixtures to air, that may give FFA more room to negotiate? It will make for a longer A-League window too and possibly the A-League starting a bit sooner again. Like the PFA said, the days of worrying about other codes and divvying up the seasons over, with all codes seeking to be covered all year-round now.
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+x+x+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league. Yeah might be getting hopes up again, but we haven't seen the FFA give this idea proper consideration before, despite it being brought up before and during every season, for years now. Graham Arnold has even given up contributing to the debate these days. And with the trend of things, wider pressure on them with the clubs, PFA and the results of the national teams - at this rate even Fox may have to give in and if there's National Teams football to fill the Telecast void during the breaks, then everybody wins. If it's not in the FFAs interest they don't care. They only care about profit and atm they can't manage that. How many times have they talked expansion, pro rel, transfer fees etc.
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+x+x+x+xThis is some welcome news. Over-due, but after all the brick-walling from FFA (Fox) over this idea for years, finally perhaps a corner turned. It's getting desperate at NT level and something had to give. Our NT's, especially Aged National Teams, are suffering. Well done to the PFA for getting the ball rolling with that Project 2020 initiative. That's clearly made the FFA wake up and take this seriously. No doubt the difficulty with clubs over call-ups recent years, the struggles of NTs and the FFA's general difficulties in dealing with their constituents recent times, that's also helping to push them to move quicker on an issue that has been bugging those in the game for a while now. Imagine congratulating someone who hasn't done anything. Not even the bare minimum. Just imagine that. What an league. Yeah might be getting hopes up again, but we haven't seen the FFA give this idea proper consideration before, despite it being brought up before and during every season, for years now. Graham Arnold has even given up contributing to the debate these days. And with the trend of things, wider pressure on them with the clubs, PFA and the results of the national teams - at this rate even Fox may have to give in and if there's National Teams football to fill the Telecast void during the breaks, then everybody wins. If it's not in the FFAs interest they don't care. They only care about profit and atm they can't manage that. How many times have they talked expansion, pro rel, transfer fees etc. I think it's only different this time from other eras like when Arnie and Muscat were complaining about the lack of International breaks, because it's in the FFA's interests these days given all the pressures from constituents from all corners, to the extent of threatening their very existence. I think it was the PFA/Didulica who even suggested that introducing breaks may help to alleviate the tension with clubs. Alot's been happening recently and with the agitating for the congress, expansion etc the order, ground underneath has shifted alot from the same old a year or two ago. Given what's happening now, anything could be possible - especially once that Congress scenario sorted. FIFA are due back here next month. FFA can use this as a bargaining chip too, like an offer to the A-League clubs that they're willing to bend here.
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FFA revolutionising the game.
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Only these non football fuckwits would need a workshop to consider for these things whilst the rest of the world considers them non negotiable
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It’s more evidence that the Entertainment Franchise mentality is losing out to the Football Mentality. We need FIFA to help end the autocratic control of football and then let football people into key positions at the ffa
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+xIt’s more evidence that the Entertainment Franchise mentality is losing out to the Football Mentality. We need FIFA to help end the autocratic control of football and then let football people into key positions at the ffa This is a massive problem. Cricket has tried it and it's failing. The big bash has lost fans in the tens of thousands.
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Why aren't transfers and loans allowed?
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+xWhy aren't transfers and loans allowed? Because FFA. No other justifiable reason.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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Dear Everyone Look at me, I'm doing something Love Greg
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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Speaks Volumes about the FFA that they consider the HAL a toy that can be fiddled with mid-season.
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+x+xIt’s more evidence that the Entertainment Franchise mentality is losing out to the Football Mentality. We need FIFA to help end the autocratic control of football and then let football people into key positions at the ffa This is a massive problem. Cricket has tried it and it's failing. The big bash has lost fans in the tens of thousands. ??? Average crowds for the BBL have been climbing for the last 4 years...
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+xSpeaks Volumes about the FFA that they consider the HAL a toy that can be fiddled with mid-season. I'm not trying to sounds like I'm defending the FFA here, but the article specifically states that they didn't want to change anything mid-season. O’Rourke revealed that a loan system had widespread support, but they stopped short of installing it in this January transfer window because clubs had not factored that in when recruiting in pre-season.
Of course, that may just be more of their usual "Yeah, we'll do it later" rhetoric.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+x+xSpeaks Volumes about the FFA that they consider the HAL a toy that can be fiddled with mid-season. I'm not trying to sounds like I'm defending the FFA here, but the article specifically states that they didn't want to change anything mid-season. O’Rourke revealed that a loan system had widespread support, but they stopped short of installing it in this January transfer window because clubs had not factored that in when recruiting in pre-season.
Of course, that may just be more of their usual "Yeah, we'll do it later" rhetoric. It's only the Clubs that would have been disadvantaged that have stopped this happening mid-season Dec 11th 2017 A-League boss Greg O’Rourke said a loan system was inevitable, but could not yet confirm whether it would be ratified in time for the upcoming transfer window, which opens on January 3. . . “We are currently reviewing both (the loan and transfer system). There is a formal presentation tomorrow, more with a view to the loans,’’ O’Rourke said. “Whether or not it’s for this window or next year will depend on the challenges that come out of this review. “We are working through it with the PFA (players’ union) and having a good look at it.” Pretty obvious to even blind Betty that you can't have a proper competition and change the rules midway It's either they're desperately trying to think of something to do, anything, to look vaguely useful Or, they're really stupid
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+x+x+xIt’s more evidence that the Entertainment Franchise mentality is losing out to the Football Mentality. We need FIFA to help end the autocratic control of football and then let football people into key positions at the ffa This is a massive problem. Cricket has tried it and it's failing. The big bash has lost fans in the tens of thousands. ??? Average crowds for the BBL have been climbing for the last 4 years... They're down on last year but mainly because numerous matches have been moved to regional areas that have smaller capacities.
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TheSelectFew
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+x+x+x+xIt’s more evidence that the Entertainment Franchise mentality is losing out to the Football Mentality. We need FIFA to help end the autocratic control of football and then let football people into key positions at the ffa This is a massive problem. Cricket has tried it and it's failing. The big bash has lost fans in the tens of thousands. ??? Average crowds for the BBL have been climbing for the last 4 years... They're down on last year but mainly because numerous matches have been moved to regional areas that have smaller capacities. Hobart is down I believe a few Sydney and Melbourne matches are down as well. This was on Twitter and I should have saved it.
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Yep Hobarts down from about 18,000 last year to 13,000 this year.
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Every team is down except for Perth.
Beaten by Eldar
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