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TheSelectFew
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+x+x+x+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Given ticket sales are handled by the clubs, going to regular season games funds the club, not the FFA. So FFA don't care about attendance metrics ? *cough*WP*cough*In any case, the FFA have attempted to counter the drop in crowds and ratings this season with more of same i.e. marquee fund. Or maybe they do ? I didn't say the FFA didn't care. I'm saying not attending regular season matches hurts club owners first and foremost. The only time I'd make a conscious decision to not renew my membership would be if SFC ownership we're taking the club in the wrong direction. Ratings are a different story, but the FFA are clueless and have already indicated they intend on using the same short term solutions to "fix" the problem. Oh well. It all goes up so maybe we should stop funding football altogether. Im sorry but its the only way. A lot dont want to hear it but fan forums, walk outs, mass protests, dropping metrics arent working. Zero investment is the last resort.
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nomates
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+x+x+x+x+x+xBig fucking joke. Just approve expansion teams from Malaysia and Singapore already and finish off what credibility the league had left. This league is only bad because people show up and watch the games. People need to stop funding their bad decisions. Given ticket sales are handled by the clubs, going to regular season games funds the club, not the FFA. So FFA don't care about attendance metrics ? *cough*WP*cough*In any case, the FFA have attempted to counter the drop in crowds and ratings this season with more of same i.e. marquee fund. Or maybe they do ? I didn't say the FFA didn't care. I'm saying not attending regular season matches hurts club owners first and foremost. The only time I'd make a conscious decision to not renew my membership would be if SFC ownership we're taking the club in the wrong direction. Ratings are a different story, but the FFA are clueless and have already indicated they intend on using the same short term solutions to "fix" the problem. Oh well. It all goes up so maybe we should stop funding football altogether. Im sorry but its the only way. A lot dont want to hear it but fan forums, walk outs, mass protests, dropping metrics arent working. Zero investment is the last resort. Its why the metrics should be fvcked off all together as we wouldn't be in this predicament.
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Melbcityguy
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this has been quiet as well any updates?
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paulbagzFC
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bohemia
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+xthis has been quiet as well any updates? Must mean something has been proposed to FFA. When they go quiet it's just Dave hiding under the blanket hoping it all goes away.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+x+xthis has been quiet as well any updates? Must mean something has been proposed to FFA. When they go quiet it's just Dave hiding under the blanket hoping it all goes away. Be fair, he's had 5 prettied up servo's to visit
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Quelle Suprise ! A Sydney-based consortium will proceed with its plans to bring an A-League team to the city's south west despite the likely decision of Football Federation to block its proposed $15 million purchase of Wellington Phoenix's licence. The FFA looks set to reject the transfer of the Phoenix's licence on the grounds of maintaining the integrity of its current expansion process, despite Wellington reaching an agreement for its sale and relocation to Sydney
Wellington Phoenix's licence is up in two years' time and it is unlikely to be extended unless there is a drastic uplift in the club's off-field performances. The proposed terms of the sale to the Sydney consortium would have seen Wellington Phoenix close its doors and the A-League effectively end its partnership with New Zealand football. It's understood the proposal included a 100 per cent transfer of Wellington's ownership over a two-year period to the South West Sydney Football Club bid, leading to a new team playing out of Campbelltown Stadium in the short term. Despite earlier reports, it was unlikely the proposed sale would include the new team playing home games in the New Zealand capital and Sydney. The FFA is understood to have informed both parties it will not allow the sale to go through while other entities are bidding for expansion to a 12-team competition. The FFA is set to formally reject the proposal in the coming days
The looming rejection of the sale, however, has not deterred South West Sydney FC going ahead with its bid for an A-League licence after submitting a proposal to fund and build a stadium near Badgery's Creek airport. The group, which is comprised of several local clubs and associations, has approached Liverpool Council with a view to constructing a 15,000-seater stadium in the surrounding precinct of the new airport, having gained funding approval from its private backers. The proposal is for a single-tiered rectangular arena with full roof covering for all seats. The bid is one of three from Sydney that has already been made public as part of the current expansion process, alongside a separate bid from Campbelltown City Council for a team in the growing south-west corridor as well as Southern Expansion, based in Sydney's southern suburbs and Wollongong
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Now let's see people who defend the FFA justify this. Greed of the highest order.
It was win win for everyone involved, the Nix owners who have pumped money into a failing league get paid, the failing league gets a new team and new derbies without any baggage.
Guess the FFA have to pay their ludicrous consultancy fees to their mates somehow
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bohemia
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If the market rate for a license is 15 million then when averaged over the remaining 4 years of the media deal that's 3.75 million annual for each club. It covers the cap before factoring in an extra 6 million (for 2 clubs). It's more than what the media deal is generating per club.
At that price the FFA should very seriously be looking at 4 teams in the expansion round, especially considering how strong the field is. The "self sustaining" argument from DG doesn't hold much water considering the price investors are prepared to buy in at.
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jaymz
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Why dont the FFA offer it to all the unsuccessful bids in that case? It can be up to the losing bids to negotiate with the Nix. Hell charge a percentage if you're that greedy.
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Burztur
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FFA should simply allow it and clip the ticket...
Nix could alternatively simply hand the license back. Why waste more money?
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nomates
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The thing is this deal is going to happen one way or another. Nix are finished we haven't even signed players for next season let alone got a new coach.
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RedKat
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An outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down
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bohemia
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+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because FFA wants the 15 million. Maybe FFA doen't deserve it all that much, but they deserve it more than the Welnix consortium which has generated none of the value of the license yet wants to be rewarded for squatting on everyone else's efforts.
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sanchez
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+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down To play the devils advocate, the FFA are trying to 'maintain the integrity of the expansion process', and a potential bidder is sliding through the back door. I think its a typically terrible idea from FFA to knock it back. Maybe also not wanting to get another southernly named expansion bid offside....
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Nix will simply not appoint a coach or new players, maybe fire any coaching staff they have left and say to FFA your call....
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+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because they've already promised the Southern Expansion bid that they'd get the third Sydney spot. Nothing about what the FFA do is fair and transparent.
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Because the FFA make no money And their already desperate expansion gamble is diluted down to homeopathic levels in Southern Sydney
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RedKat
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+x+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because they've already promised the Southern Expansion bid that they'd get the third Sydney spot. Nothing about what the FFA do is fair and transparent. Thats probably it.
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+x+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because FFA wants the 15 million. Maybe FFA doen't deserve it all that much, but they deserve it more than the Welnix consortium which has generated none of the value of the license yet wants to be rewarded for squatting on everyone else's efforts. Nix facilitate 10% of TV money
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nomates
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+x+x+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because FFA wants the 15 million. Maybe FFA doen't deserve it all that much, but they deserve it more than the Welnix consortium which has generated none of the value of the license yet wants to be rewarded for squatting on everyone else's efforts. Nix facilitate 10% of TV money + Sky Sports $300k
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bohemia
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+x+x+xAn outright purchase and all games in Sydney AND the Nux problem #metrics solved. Baffled why this was turned down Because FFA wants the 15 million. Maybe FFA doen't deserve it all that much, but they deserve it more than the Welnix consortium which has generated none of the value of the license yet wants to be rewarded for squatting on everyone else's efforts. Nix facilitate 10% of TV money It doesn't work that way. The clubs that contribute to the highest rating matches contribute a higher than proportionate amount of the value the broadcaster pays for. The clubs that deliver higher average ratings deliver more value. Wellington games on average rate 2/3 of the ratings of Sydney, Melbourne Victory, City, Wanderers. They are consistently the lowest rating club and the majority of viewership for their games is from the Australian fans NOT from Wellington. The clubs with presence in the Australian marketplace - the market Foxtel earns its subscription revenue from - contribute far more value than those who don't. Wellington don't contribute 10%. Their value is in providing a dancing partner for all the other Australian clubs, and it's a job that can be done better by any other Australian club.
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FFA is a joke.Nothing they do is for the good of the game.It's about themselves
They should be banned from being associated with any terms like INTEGRITY..
Here is a way of getting a new team where the fish are.But FFA have to be dicks again.
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Heart cost less then Nix
But why reject it?
The question is who would you prefer, South Sydney (joined bid) or Nix?
Nix all day if the South Sydney bid means no Wolves
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Unfortunately I have to agree with the FFA on this, Nix are opportunistically trying to cash in on the back of Australian interest. If they had a buyer for Nix as a Wellington team then I am sure FFA would approve it. But by trying to sell the license to the highest bidder, they are backdooring the process and could potentially torpedo a better bid from a similar location. Either way, by doing this Nix have shown they have no interest in continuing long terms so there will be a 3rd new team added to replace them.
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I guess we can look forward to a team of U12's coached by the tea lady for the Nix next season.
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I wonder what FFA would have said if Southern Expansion were offered the license
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roarland
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The price is set at 15 million. If the FFA know what they are doing they will welcome bids from the expansion groups and facilitate the sale before the end of the financial year. It doesn't have to interfere with expansion and will see one of the more cash rich bids get a head start. There will be very few of the expansion bidders in a position to front up 15 million so it will set the landscape for expansion rather than waiting for an independent a-league and the Nix selling their license to whomever they choose. The only way for the FFA to actually protect the integrity of expansion process is to make this sale part of it.
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the only way this is a good decision if the ffa scrap the nix and bring in 3 expansions teams. It seems like it is only a matter of time before nix are out, the ffa should bite the bullet now while there is interest.
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