Confirmed: Van Marwijk's six outs in Caltex Socceroos 26-man squad


Confirmed: Van Marwijk's six outs in Caltex Socceroos 26-man squad

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Barca4Life - 15 May 2018 11:13 AM
Based on the Caltex stuff politics and self-interest still reigns in Australian football it seems based on the Cahill selection and MacLaren omission. 

Also not selecting Bailey Wright is also sdaft given hes playing in the championship.

Sometimes i wonder why we dont just pick the best team available, no more cutting corners.

Its more likely that BVM's picked the squad he thinks will do best with his system. My understanding is he is on a performance based contract with bonuses if we progress, not dependent on how well the sponsors/FFA/TV ratings/*insert any other 'metric' here that suits your argument* do.

Why would he give a rats about anything the sponsors want? He leaves at the end of our WC participation either way. Surely his only focus is on getting the best outcome for the tournament.

Maclaren definitely stiff not to be there but that wont be because he was told to drop him. likewise Cahill.





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phutbol - 15 May 2018 12:02 PM
Barca4Life - 15 May 2018 11:13 AM

Why would he give a rats about anything the sponsors want? He leaves at the end of our WC participation either way. 

What the Sponsors want would have been in the interview process




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Closed HAL failed with 11
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Whole thread makes anybody who mocks Americans for their conspiracy theories look ridiculous.

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The question we should all be asking is how has Troisi managed to obtain nudes of BVM in such a short space of time? 

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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 12:10 PM
The question we should all be asking is how has Troisi managed to obtain nudes of BVM in such a short space of time? 

i just dont get troisi's inclusion.

can anyone explain it to me?

 




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Munrubenmuz - 15 May 2018 10:01 AM
jas88 - 15 May 2018 9:34 AM

The reason for picking Cahill is simple.  With 10 to go and needing a goal and sitting on the bench is Kruse or Cahill you'd throw Cahill on every single time.

None of this is Cahill's fault.  The shame of it all is we have no one  else.



Don't talk sense, it's wasted here. People have already made their minds up about this long before the squad was picked. 

The real question is how Troisi is going ahead of the JMac. 

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inala brah - 15 May 2018 12:14 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 12:10 PM

i just dont get troisi's inclusion.

can anyone explain it to me?

an attacking mid who can press gives you a tactical option. Similar to irvine's role really

Troisi has scored against some big opponents as well so probably has a reputation as a big match player
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footbawler - 15 May 2018 10:56 AM
Tom Rogic also has a big picture on some caltex pumps. Saw it on his insta

shhhhhh

Let the usual suspects have their moment.

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We will be under the (Caltex) pump starting with France for sure. How apt.

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Summerteeth - 15 May 2018 12:51 PM
We will be under the (Caltex) pump starting with France for sure. How apt.

you're just adding "fuel" to the fire  
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footbawler - 15 May 2018 10:56 AM
Tom Rogic also has a big picture on some caltex pumps. Saw it on his insta

Once-every-4-years supporters : who ? 

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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What a disgrace. Has Cahill even scored a goal in the last 12 months? Does he remember what it's like to play more than a handful of minutes every week?

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phreeky - 15 May 2018 1:24 PM
What a disgrace. Has Cahill even scored a goal in the last 12 months? Does he remember what it's like to play more than a handful of minutes every week?

Ye he scored a brace to get us into the world cup the past 12 months.
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phreeky - 15 May 2018 1:24 PM
What a disgrace. Has Cahill even scored a goal in the last 12 months? Does he remember what it's like to play more than a handful of minutes every week?



 We wouldn't even be at the World Cup if it wasn't for Cahill. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 12:10 PM
The question we should all be asking is how has Troisi managed to obtain nudes of BVM in such a short space of time? 

I honestly think he is dining out on his game against Chile in the Confederations Cup, where he actually was very good. I would assume BVM has watched these games.

But he has been deplorable since and if he makes the squad in front of someone like Petratos, then that is horse shit.

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TrickyTrees - 15 May 2018 1:36 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 12:10 PM

I honestly think he is dining out on his game against Chile in the Confederations Cup, where he actually was very good. I would assume BVM has watched these games.

But he has been deplorable since and if he makes the squad in front of someone like Petratos, then that is horse shit.

All true. A year ago he would have been a shoe-in, but he was awful for most of this season. 

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Feel ill...
Troisi, Brillante, Rukavytsa, Risdon are still in the squad.

Susnajr, our second best CB from the 32 is shafted.
Maclaren who has been our most inform striker. Shafted..

Got to be 4-5 better players that haven't been chosen at all.


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City Sam - 15 May 2018 1:29 PM
phreeky - 15 May 2018 1:24 PM

Ye he scored a brace to get us into the world cup the past 12 months.

I already pointed Timmy's efforts in the Syria game to this peanut in a Cahill bashing thread a week ago. Obviously his comprehension skills aren't too crash hot. When will the morons who are so hell bent on taking down our greatest ever socceroo (because his apparent arrogance is so offensive to them) realise that this is the same guy who was our top scorer in qualifying? How many other teams  (let alone ones with such a dearth of goal scoring talent as us) would have such an outcry over the inclusion of their top goal scorer through qualification. Your life savings on the line, 10 to go against Peru it's nil all - who do you bring on? But... but.... club minutes??? But... but... but .... he's arrogant? But... but... but... young player's spot (didn't know we were using the world cup as a development tournament again?). 
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Don't get the Cahill hate. He will be our only scorer at this world cup and he will get 2 goals. You just wait.

But JMac is very unlucky. He should've been selected
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George_Worst - 15 May 2018 1:55 PM
City Sam - 15 May 2018 1:29 PM

I already pointed Timmy's efforts in the Syria game to this peanut in a Cahill bashing thread a week ago. Obviously his comprehension skills aren't too crash hot. When will the morons who are so hell bent on taking down our greatest ever socceroo (because his apparent arrogance is so offensive to them) realise that this is the same guy who was our top scorer in qualifying? How many other teams  (let alone ones with such a dearth of goal scoring talent as us) would have such an outcry over the inclusion of their top goal scorer through qualification. Your life savings on the line, 10 to go against Peru it's nil all - who do you bring on? But... but.... club minutes??? But... but... but .... he's arrogant? But... but... but... young player's spot (didn't know we were using the world cup as a development tournament again?). 

Couldn't have said it better myself. His detractors must suffer from some serious cognitive dissonance. 


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The more I look at this squad I can't help but think and hope that BVM has got Jedi pegged as a CB. We've got an overload of midfielders and seem light on in central defence with only Sains, Jurman and arguably Degenek as the CB's. Jedi is more a CB option that Milligan IMO but thats about it 

Also having Jedi as a CB option might also make room for another attacker to fit in to the squad.

If Karacic and Risdon make the cut, you'd think Brillante is gone with 2 of Troisi, Petratos, Milligan, Arzani, Nabbout, Ruka to go.



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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 1:30 PM
phreeky - 15 May 2018 1:24 PM



 We wouldn't even be at the World Cup if it wasn't for Cahill. 

Yawn, so over that horseshit tagline.

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paulbagzFC - 15 May 2018 2:12 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 1:30 PM

Yawn, so over that horseshit tagline.

-PB

I'm sorry the truth doesn't sit well with you.

Just mute the video, squint and pretend its Luongo scoring the double. They look similar enough. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 2:02 PM
George_Worst - 15 May 2018 1:55 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself. His detractors must suffer from some serious cognitive dissonance. 

Must feel similar to all those that bashed Archie after his crucial away goals got us to the 2014 World Cup, but unlike Cahill he was dropped by the late change of coach.


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paladisious - 15 May 2018 3:45 PM

sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 2:02 PM

Must feel similar to all those that bashed Archie after his crucial away goals got us to the 2014 World Cup, but unlike Cahill he was dropped by the late change of coach.


Bit of a different situation. Archie wasn't criticised as an individual per se, rather as part of a collective, being one of the several older players that many felt we're getting in the way of national team regeneration that had should begun years prior. Ange made the controversial decision to make drastic changes in order for us to be successful in the 2015 Asian Cup. As a result, many players, including, but not limited to Archie, missed out when they probably didn't deserve to on their form at the time. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 4:03 PM
paladisious - 15 May 2018 3:45 PM

Bit of a different situation. Archie wasn't criticised as an individual per se, rather as part of a collective, being one of the several older players that many felt we're getting in the way of national team regeneration that had should begun years prior. Ange made the controversial decision to make drastic changes in order for us to be successful in the 2015 Asian Cup. As a result, many players, including, but not limited to Archie, missed out when they probably didn't deserve to on their form at the time. 

The reasons cited makes sense (even if they conflict directly with any argument to keep Cahill in this time) but I was more referring to his detractors at the time, especially the unforgivable chant he was subjected to by Sydney and other fans that absolutely did criticise him as an individual.
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sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 1:30 PM
phreeky - 15 May 2018 1:24 PM



 We wouldn't even be at the World Cup if it wasn't for Cahill. 

We wouldn't have made 2014 if it wasn't for Kennedy and Archie, both didn't go to Brazil lol
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paladisious - 15 May 2018 4:11 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 4:03 PM

The reasons cited makes sense (even if they conflict directly with any argument to keep Cahill in this time) but I was more referring to his detractors at the time, especially the unforgivable chant he was subjected to by Sydney and other fans that absolutely did criticise him as an individual.

What chant was that?

I distinctly remember when he came on in the Iraq game he got a massive cheer. I really liked Archie when playing for the Roos. 

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JonoMV - 15 May 2018 5:06 PM
sydneyfc1987 - 15 May 2018 1:30 PM

We wouldn't have made 2014 if it wasn't for Kennedy and Archie, both didn't go to Brazil lol

re my previous comment which you clearly didn't see. 

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According to the Bristol manager, Wright needs surgery over summer. I'm not sure how crucial it is but like Sainsbury  playing through can limit performance.
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