Heard on the radio this morning the huge shortfall in government funding support for Football compared to other codes.
It is something like $110 or thereabouts for each registered Rugby League or Aussie Rules player and $37 for each registered football player.

Ask your football administrators, at state and national level, what requests for investment they have had rejected?

It would appear other codes are better at asking and getting, at least when you talk to politicians - they say football doesn’t ask for enough.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/ffa-to-lobby-for-300m-in-funding-for-grassroots-football/news-story/85e94d5e4ce5d6dbdcfa9afc62e73add

This is the link if you can get through the paywall which discusses it. 

Average government support per player is $37. Compare that >$100 for the other football codes. Cricket gets $55. 

The FFA need to work harder in securing funding.

To be fair, if Gallop and the FFa muppets came asking you for money --- would you give it?

they had a report on a current affair in melbourne about it. seems to have been getting a lot of media attention 

thats in NSW. last year there was a similar report in the lead up to the VIC state election where the discrepancy was far worse ($67 per Football participant v $1444 for AFL). 

Football Victoria seem to be doing a better job at getting funding under Peter Filopoulos but participation grew 24% in 2018.  
https://mobile.twitter.com/peterfilopoulos/status/1097400469679271936

NSW and Federal elections coming up. We better get in on that pork barrel goodness.

Vic doing a better job is good to see but we are well short of the other codes. In fairness, cricket should get more funding too.

FFA to lobby for funding increase to save grassroots football

FEBRUARY 17, 2019It’s the sport played by more children across Australia than any other — but too often on pitches that are unlit, undrained and overused.Now, with grassroots football bursting at the seams, a concerted lobbying campaign is to begin at all levels of government seeking to bridge a $500m funding gap by adding and improving hundreds of pitches across the country.As association officials put caps on registration numbers due to a shortage of appropriate facilities, new research has revealed the backlog of upgrades and investment that means an average of more than 300 players using each pitch in some areas.

Football Federation Australia officials will begin a tour of state and the federal governments this week, armed with an audit of facilities across the country and aiming to show the code is under-resourced compared with its rivals.As it stands, football receives $37 of government funding per participant while each rugby participant gets $113, NRL $110, AFL $109 and cricket $55.The windfall from broadcast revenue reveals an even greater discrepancy, with each football participant getting $34 and each NRL counterpart receiving a whopping $1,539.

The Football NSW audit showed more than 350,000 players are registered to play football across NSW this year, on 2,284 pitches — each of which is played on by an average of 155 players.According to the data, a third of pitches have no lighting, while almost half have no drainage and/or irrigation, leading to significant numbers of training sessions and matches cancelled in bad weather.But of equal concern is the lack of new pitches to cater for increased demand, with participation numbers for football rising every year.Female football numbers in particular are rising by 8 per cent per year, but local officials say they have nowhere to house the extra players.

“I don’t have enough fields to play on,” said general manager of the Sutherland Shire Football Association Jeff Stewart.“We do have an eligibility requirement to register to play football in Sutherland Shire — you must be a resident, presently going to school there or have played for one of our clubs in the past.“If we had 20,000 players I would suggest we may have to start turning away local residents.”They’re not far short off that threshold now.Last year the Shire had 18,692 — of which about one-third were female — squeezed onto 61 fields at an average of 306 players per field.Some of those fields are under-utilised because of the steep financial outlay required to make them more playable.“We have one field, for example, where the goalkeeper’s feet at one end are higher than the goalkeeper’s head at the other end,” Stewart said.“We play games on that field — we have to, because we have to play games on every bit of green grass we can.”Inquiries have been made about levelling it out and refurbishing another smaller one next to it, but the association has been quoted about $4 million because of nearby sewage and stormwater lines.Similar problems have long been festering in the Canterbury district, where decades of neglect in Sydney’s chock-a-block inner west has left structurally unsound facilities and outdated amenities, particular catering for female participation.

Canterbury District Soccer Football Association chief executive Ian Holmes said his board has been discussing capping registrations at a total 17,000 across the 27 clubs.“It’s not a matter of if it’s going to happen, it’s going to start this year because there’s no more space,” Holmes said.“The infrastructure cannot cope.“We’re really jammed in, and given the neglect and lack of capital invested in community sporting facilities the fields start to deteriorate.“Therefore the clubs have to say they can’t take anymore. They’re basically at the point where they have to do it because there’s no more space.” https://outline.com/BmvPRa

Good to see FFA on top of grassroots.
Where have they been for 13 years?
So a CEO gets over a million dollars a year and they had no idea Football had been getting a raw deal and noone lobbying the biggest cash cow for more cash?


I can see the government saying..Well noone has asked for more cash ....

And FFA doing their best ..de bonehead impersonation.


How many more times can you stuff up and keep your job?

VIC News

How Football Federation Australia hopes to end junior soccer club crush

Alanah Frost, Herald SunFebruary 18, 2019 6:30amSubscriber only

Soccer’s governing body has revealed a $500 million funding shortfall that it wants to close to improve access to the sport for Aussie kids.Football Federation Australia will on Tuesday ask local, state and federal governments for their help to establish the national fund to build new facilities and open up the game to tens of thousands more youngsters.Last season, 12,500 Victorian kids were knocked back from clubs who had reached capacity at their already overflowing facilities.JUNIOR SOCCER CLUB MEMBERS TRIPLE IN FOUR SEASONSMELBOURNE SOCCER CLUBS TURNING AWAY PLAYERSThe frustrations echoed by parents and participants will now be put on the table with areas such as funding for females and cultural diversity key factors in the push.Chief Operations Officer at the FFA, Mark Falvo said the move was crucial in providing local communities with the resources they need to keep kids engaged and on the move.“Facilities are a major issue — it’s been an area we’ve been working on for quite a significant amount of time. With so many participants and a small revenue base, the funding that trickles down per participant is relatively small,” Mr Falvo said.

Currently the rate of women in soccer alone increases by around 5 to 8 per cent each year making it a critical time to increase funding.“There are huge benefits that will flow from that — in terms of the health benefit and cross cultural cohesion etc — it’s [funding] the single biggest barrier to girls taking up the sport,” Mr Falvo said.“Those issues we feel are really holding back female participants in the sport — we’re aiming to get to 50:50 … there’s no reason we can’t have that — we just need the facilities to do so.”General Manager at the Glen Eira Football Club, Stewart Howell said a boost in funding would mean their now “saturated” club would be able to expand.

“It means that we wouldn’t have to turn people away — we’ve gone from having 25 teams five years ago to over 80 teams. We’re now at saturation point,” he said.‘We have over 20 teams of girls and women only — ranging in ages from 11 to over 35.”“It’s got clear benefits for kids and the local community.”The FFA is also moving to reduce the alarmingly high rate of overweight and obese Australians.Two thirds of Australians are now considered overweight or obese, with the more pressing issue of one in four children are considered clinically overweight.Mr Falvo said inclusion was the main focus for the newly elected board and the drive behind today’s bid in Canberra.

Football Federation Victoria says Melbourne clubs turning away players due to pitch shortage

Tim Michell, LeaderAugust 28, 2018 3:00pm

SOCCER clubs across Melbourne are being forced to turn away players at an alarming rate due to a shortfall of pitches and facilities. Football Federation Victoria this week released its State Football Facilities Strategy, identifying the need for more pitches, lighting and female changerooms to cater for the sport’s booming growth.THUNDERING SUPPORT FOR A-TEAMJUNIOR SOCCER CLUB BURSTING AT THE SEAMS FFV found there were 1090 pitches across Victoria in 2016 and has projected an additional 420 will be needed to meet expectations of more than 90,000 registered players by 2026.Based on 5 per cent growth in the next eight years, FFV has forecast Brimbank (19), Boroondara (18), Bayside (18), Monash (17) and Moreland (16) will need the greatest number of new pitches.

FFV chief executive Peter Filopoulos said clubs not being able to cater for players was a “sad state of affairs”.“If you drive around the streets of Victoria … I come across a lot of auction boards outside cricket clubs and AFL clubs where they say, ‘looking for players under 16. Looking for players under 14’,” Mr Filopoulos said.“If we had to put an auction board up outside football clubs, it would be ‘we can’t take you anymore. We’re full’.”The governing body has predicted Melbourne’s western metro region, which comprises Brimbank, Hobsons Bay, Melton and Wyndham, will require 53 new ‘full-size equivalent’ pitches by 2026, the highest in the state.

Increasing the number of pitches in the southern metro (44), central metro (40), north west metro (38) and north east metro (38) regions was also noted as a priority.“It’s well known football is the number one participation sport in the country,” Mr Filopoulos said.“But sadly, every day we hear another story of how our clubs across the state don’t have the facilities to keep up with this growth and end up knocking back people who want to play.”The strategy sets out plans for lighting upgrades at 96 pitches, the creation of 31 artificial surfaces and drainage improvements at 80 grounds.SCOTT MILLER APPOINTED COACH OF LANGWARRIN TIME TO BREAK THROUGH THE GRASS CEILINGIt is hoped these works would increase the capacity of existing soccer pitches.FFV found artificial pitches were needed in areas such as Stonnington, Boroondara and Bayside, while the Mornington Peninsula and Nillumbik had a “low proportion of pitches with lighting’.Casey and Dandenong, municipalities at the forefront of the Team 11 A-League bid, both require 15 new pitches by 2026 due to the population boom in the southeast.However, this figure is likely to rise as a result of increased exposure should Team 11, which will call Dandenong home, is successful in acquiring an A-League licence.

Nine million for top club Aspendale

October 23, 2018 Craig MacKenzieSport

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ASPENDALE Stingrays have millions of reasons to hope that the Andrews government is re-elected at the upcoming state poll.A proposed four-pitch multipurpose complex with new pavilion and car parking at Kerr Crescent Reserve in Aspendale Gardens would secure the club’s future and provide the springboard for growth envisaged by the current administration.There has been no shortage of good news for the Stingrays recently as Football Victoria named Aspendale the 2018 Club of the Year at a gala luncheon on Friday.Just five clubs from throughout the state made the shortlist for the prestigious award which recognises the remarkable progress of the club in the past four years.“A lot of it had to do with the exposure we’ve been able to gain for our club and although there’s been a fair bit recently about the state government and council both backing the Kerr Reserve development it’s really something that Kevin (Griffiths), Joe (Mravljak) and myself have been working on for the past few years,” club president Derrick Berends said.Griffiths is vice-president football and Mravljak vice president operations and along with Berends they have overseen a growth spurt which has taken the Stingrays from 100 members to around 500 spread over “38 to 40” teams including 25 miniroos sides.Kingston council now ranks the Stingrays ahead of NPL giant Bentleigh Greens in terms of participants.The club has been forced to use three venues for training and two for matchday purposes but the Kerr Reserve proposal would end their nomadic existence.“The idea of consolidating at one venue is what we have been working towards,” Berends added.“Patience and perseverance have been the keys to what has been achieved so far.“We were involved in direct lobbying of local ward councillors and we were able to get FFV (now Football Victoria) to deal directly with the council.“Once council became aware that we were forced to turn kids away, to hire various venues for training and that we couldn’t grow the female wing of the club they realised that we weren’t just a small club of 100 members any more.”The Kerr Reserve project has been estimated at close to $9 million and the Andrews government has committed $4.5 million.Public contributions to Kingston council’s consultative process closed last week and a review period will ensue prior to a final report being published.The Stingrays entered State League ranks for the first time this year with the seniors finishing a creditable eighth in a 13-team league.


Link to article :
http://mpnews.com.au/2018/10/23/nine-million-for-top-club-aspendale/

You don't have a link to that if it's somewhere online, do you ?
Was it recent ?

Clubs need to politically lobby their local MP's better. NSWPL clubs have gotten millions worth of upgrades with some clever state & federal lobbying.  

So stop whingeing & go out there & fight for the money like all of the other sports do.   

If clubs in NSW are only getting $37 per player compared to the other codes getting over $100, we aren't doing well enough.

The FFA could learn alot from the AFL about having some healthy arrogance to stand up for your code and take what it deserves (and wants)....

Clearly the FFA havent tried hard enough to lobby the govt. for more money, maybe when the a-league is fully off the FFA's book they can focus on the game development and prioritize these issues in a full capacity? 

This too. If the FFA didn't rely on the HAL as a cash cow, then it would be forced to look for other sources of funding. 

The FFA really need to hire full time lobbyers, it would actually be money well spent for a change.

Because nrl, afl and cricket have their people in positions of influence in media and politics working for their games (which also means against ours).

If having a chip on your shoulder or constantly being in
a state of internal conflict was integral to success, then Australian football would be world class.

Even back when we were run by (albeit morally-questionable)football people, they never stood up for the game. Ever😭

How much money did they give Lowy for his World Cup bid?

Not enough to win the vote :)

Per participant is kinda like per capita figures.  Sometimes they don't work.  

But seriously the FFA have always struggeld compared to other codes at getting basic funding.  Something they need to learn to do.  Or steal people that do.  And then teach it to clubs etc.  

Clearly if you’ve got enough cash to pay out a national team coach for no reason, you don’t need any mere, eh?

How many players do they base their figures on for each of the sports?

It may be somewhere in one of these posts but I missed it if it was.

If we have a million football players football and say 200,000 rugby players then the funding going to football would be $40 x 1,000,000 = 40mill against the funding for rugby at $110 x 200,000 = 22mill. I am sure neither of those figures is close to the actual numbers, but while it doesn't change the per player discussion it does have a considerable impact on the overall funding dollars.

Without the comparison total dollars we are missing a significant part of the picture - for all I know (and on this I know nothing) football may get twice the allocation of overall dollars. This is not enough in my opinion, based on the per player figures, but it is relevant to get a true perspective.

Which sport has the biggest balls? Maybe expenditure has been on that basis up to now...

Caroline Springs George Cross F.C. will be opening their new state of the art facilities in Taylor's Rise in May. Four pitches all with lighting as well as great clubrooms and entertainment area. Good for the game to have such facilities only wish more of the same can be builtfor our game.

The FFA have had a decade or so. The other codes have been at it for much longer, with their people in key positions of power and influence. You can't expect miracles overnight.

MB I don’t know how to share the video but it’s on 9 news Facebook page posted 23 hours ago