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BREAKING NEWS: The @WgtnPhoenixFC look set to merge with a Sydney consortium which will play out of the Harbour CIty, via @davutovic - https://t.co/DcIITKBLMK
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bohemia
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What a disaster
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Mr B
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Im dying for this to happen..but surely not
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RedKat
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What a farce. So we'll have Sydney FC, Wanderers, Southern Expansion and South West Sydney SO MANY DERBIES = METRICS
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jlm8695
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It seems clear that the WelNix owners want co pletrly out but the FFA wont approve selling the license when they can wait 2 years to sell it themselves.
By selling to a consortium they can some $$$ back, and perhaps even a larger figure after the FFa realiseds what a disaster it is to have this new Sydney team playing in front of 1000 people in Wellington and allow the consortium to take full ownership.
At least that's how I imagine it going down.
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HeyItsRobbie
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on the bright side, should the south west sydney team succeeds and gets decent enough crowds, its going to be financially good for everyone in sydney. i also believe this team will have many NZ players in the club too. South-west Sydney would host a large portion of home games and be the HQ to the club’s new training base under the proposal, along with a colour change to black and white - synonymous with the south-west region.
Magpies surely
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bohemia
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+xIt seems clear that the WelNix owners want co pletrly out but the FFA wont approve selling the license when they can wait 2 years to sell it themselves. By selling to a consortium they can some $$$ back, and perhaps even a larger figure after the FFa realiseds what a disaster it is to have this new Sydney team playing in front of 1000 people in Wellington and allow the consortium to take full ownership. At least that's how I imagine it going down. That's how I see it. I think they're banking on FFA being too squeamish to cut a team which is to a certain degree a Sydney team. It's a play to ensure they can sell the whole license themselves instead of surrendering it for nothing to FFA. Nobody in Wellington will support this club as if it were their own. I don't think many in Sydney would either until the relocation is complete. Make no mistake though, as of today the Phoenix are dead.
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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The two key determining legal factors are whether Wellington’s license is territorial and whether a sale of 50 per cent or below can be blocked by FFA.
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Can see expanding to 14 teams instead of 12.
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Sydney could emerge with fresh A-League presence as Wellington Phoenix prepare for stake saleMAY 11, 2018SOUTH-WEST Sydney could have an A-League presence next season with Wellington Phoenix on the verge of selling a large stake to a local consortium. A Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) has been agreed between the two parties, with a view to selling a 50 per cent stake immediately. The hybrid model would effectively become a third Sydney club, making for potentially two more box-office derbies with Western Sydney and Sydney FC. NEW GIG: Tony Popovic to be named Perth Glory coach South-west Sydney would host a large portion of home games and be the HQ to the club’s new training base under the proposal, along with a colour change to black and white - synonymous with the south-west region. Phoenix would retain their current home strip for the games that remain in New Zealand under a hybrid model. South-west Sydney bid director Gino Marra refused to comment when contacted by News Corp Australia. However it is believed that Marra travelled to New Zealand last week to negotiate the terms of the “merger” with Phoenix chairman Rob Morrison. It’s understood that the pair will meet with FFA (chief executive David Gallop) on Friday in a bid to rubber-stamp the sale. Wellnix – the consortium that owns Phoenix – and Marra’s group are confident that legally the governing body cannot reject the deal. Fox Sports are among the key stakeholders believed to be supportive of the sale. FFA is simultaneously running a formal expansion process, with Expressions of Interest due on May 24. Southern Expansion (the joint Sutherland, St George and Illawarra) and Wollongong Wolves are among the bidders from NSW. If the south-west consortium’s audacious purchase comes off, the existing Phoenix contracts of Nathan Burns, Roy Krishna, Sarpreet Singh, Keegan Smith, Tom Doyle, Louis Fenton, Dylan Fox, Ryan Lowry, Adam Parkhouse and Oli Sail would be honoured. Midfielder Matt Ridenton this week joined Newcastle Jets. Other Phoenix negotiations have stalled, including the appointment of a new coach, while Phoenix’s ownership structure is resolved. Captain Andrew Durante, Scott Galloway, Lewis Italiano, Andrija Kaludjerovic, Matija Ljujic, James McGarry, Michael McGlinchey, Daniel Mullen, Goran Paracki, Logan Rogerson, Alex Rufer and Tando Velaphi are off contract, while defender Marco Rossi has already departed. The two key determining legal factors are whether Wellington’s license is territorial and whether a sale of 50 per cent or below can be blocked by FFA. Phoenix has also negotiated with Southern Expansion and former National Soccer League champions South Melbourne in the last six months.
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+xCan see expanding to 14 teams instead of 12.
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bohemia
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+xCan see expanding to 14 teams instead of 12. On what basis?
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RedKat
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+xCan see expanding to 14 teams instead of 12. More like expansion from 9 Australia 1 NZ to 10 Australian
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RedKat
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Article mentions Nathan Burns, Roy Krishna, Sarpreet Singh, Keegan Smith, Tom Doyle, Louis Fenton, Dylan Fox, Ryan Lowry, Adam Parkhouse and Oli Sail will all have their contracts honoured.
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Mr B
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I am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side?
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+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work.
It isn't It's chucking it all on the FFA, flushing out their true intentions Nice late Friday story
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Mr B
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+x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work.
It isn't It's chucking it all on the FFA, flushing out their true intentions Nice late Friday story :D
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P&R will fix it 2.0
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+x+x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work.
It isn't It's chucking it all on the FFA, flushing out their true intentions Nice late Friday story :D Probably waited for Gallop to go on Holiday
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HeyItsRobbie
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+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side? If the team only represents Campbelltown/Macarthur only, then i'll throw my support behind them.
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bohemia
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+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side? I think the purpose is to force the FFA's hand. The outcome of the negotiation with FFA could result in Wellington selling the entire license and requiring a full relocation. The end game for Wellington is probably to sell the whole license and get out. Presenting the unpalatable option of a half/half team may leave FFA compelled to act. Most interesting thing is what effect this has on Southern Expansion. I think I see where midfielder is coming from. With SWS wedged into the expansion the FFA may seek to expand further to get the desired balance of offerings from more geographical areas in the expansion process. With SE and SWS in that would only leave 1 spot between Melbourne and Brisbane. This very well may close the door on SMFC this round. Or more like, deadbolt the aready firmly closed door.
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Smart move for a crowded expansion market. would be interesting to see how long it will be before they cease playing in NZ altogether,
The real winner is welnix group, they still have some ownership and will benefit fro higher crowd participation and most likely potentially higher profits and lower operating costs (depending on where they base themselves)
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Mr B
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+x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work.
It isn't
It's chucking it all on the FFA, flushing out their true intentionsNice late Friday story +x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side? I think the purpose is to force the FFA's hand. The outcome of the negotiation with FFA could result in Wellington selling the entire license and requiring a full relocation.
The end game for Wellington is probably to sell the whole license and get out. Presenting the unpalatable option of a half/half team may leave FFA compelled to act.Most interesting thing is what effect this has on Southern Expansion. I think I see where midfielder is coming from. With SWS wedged into the expansion the FFA may seek to expand further to get the desired balance of offerings from more geographical areas in the expansion process. With SE and SWS in that would only leave 1 spot between Melbourne and Brisbane. This very well may close the door on SMFC this round. Or more like, deadbolt the aready firmly closed door. Cheers lads
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Mr B
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+x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side? If the team only represents Campbelltown/Macarthur only, then i'll throw my support behind them. Yea, its needs to be one way or the other, having two sets of fans wondering if the team represents them won't really work.
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+x+x+xI am just confused on how exactly this will work. So they want to sell 50% to South West-Sydney, so will they be like two teams in one? Will they still be called Wellington Pheonix? Majority of games in Australia with black and white strip then Yellow and black in Nz. The question is who would really want to support the team from either side? If the team only represents Campbelltown/Macarthur only, then i'll throw my support behind them. Yea, its needs to be one way or the other, having two sets of fans wondering if the team represents them won't really work. It needs to move to full ownership asap to have much chance of success. Oh, and it won't just represent Campbelltown/Macarthur but the Southern Districts Association area as well which is Liverpool/Fairfield. With Wests Tigers looking to move all home games to Western Sydney Stadium council should give a good deal on Campbelltown Stadium.
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Good luck trying to explain that to the AFC. What would be the player quota then for NZ/Aust players? Fucking nightmare.
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Gyfox
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+xGood luck trying to explain that to the AFC. What would be the player quota then for NZ/Aust players? Fucking nightmare. 5 foreigners.
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Good play by the SW bid and Nix.
Has it been confirmed that Campbelltown will be the home for the games?
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+x+xGood luck trying to explain that to the AFC. What would be the player quota then for NZ/Aust players? Fucking nightmare. 5 foreigners. Well ATM, the Nix have mostly NZ layers and a foreign player quota. Australian teams have Australian players and their quota. No idea what this mix team will consist of.
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bohemia
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+x+x+xGood luck trying to explain that to the AFC. What would be the player quota then for NZ/Aust players? Fucking nightmare. 5 foreigners. Well ATM, the Nix have mostly NZ layers and a foreign player quota. Australian teams have Australian players and their quota. No idea what this mix team will consist of. No need. FFA will order that the team be on one side of the pond or the other.
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