Cahill still worth his WC place, even if Maclaren was hard done by


Cahill still worth his WC place, even if Maclaren was hard done by

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Tim Cahill still worth his Socceroos World Cup place, even if Jamie Maclaren was hard done by

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For Socceroos coach Bert van Marwijk, it seems, form is fleeting but class has permanence.

How else to explain a preference in his World Cup squad for a 38-year-old forward who has played 63 minutes of football across 10 English second-tier games this calendar year, over a man who has scored at a rate of a goal every other game over the same period?

Jamie Maclaren, the man to miss out, had a weekend of contrasting emotions.

Informed he had been cut from van Marwijk's World Cup group — trimmed from 32 to 26 — he then struck a hat-trick in Hibernian's 5-5 draw with Rangers in the Scottish Premier League.

That took him to eight goals from 15 matches at Easter Road after a loan move from SV Darmstadt, whom he left Brisbane Roar for last winter before enduring a difficult half season in Germany.

Tim Cahill has seen less meaningful action of late, but appears to have survived the cut on the back of his past contributions and a belief that, even as the sun is setting on his domestic career, he still has the force of personality to offer something off the bench at a fourth consecutive World Cup.

It is an argument, Maclaren's exclusion aside, that retains merit. Especially for a side lacking depth of options at the top end of the pitch.

Van Marwijk himself recently described Cahill as a "special case".

His ability to produce on the grand occasion — something he reminded fans and the coaches about without subtlety via his social media channels this month — is legend.

As recently as October last year he was called to play 120 minutes of a play-off against Syria, scoring both the equaliser and extra-time winner when Australia's place at Russia was in the balance.

Age may have robbed him of pace. And match sharpness is a concern after half a year on the Millwall bench.

But he fastidiously looks after his body and his general fitness stacks up favourably against most players of his vintage.

In 10-20 minute bursts — all he will be asked to contribute when a goal is needed to rescue or win a match — he is unlikely to be exposed.

Perhaps more important, however, are his qualities of leadership. Cahill has embraced his elder statesman role and his World Cup experience places him uniquely to mentor others.

It is, however, unlikely that Cahill's name would be in the conversation if Australia were blessed with striking options.

Tomi Juric has a single figure return for his Swiss club this season, Nikita Rukavytsya is far from prolific for Maccabi Haifa. Contenders do not run much deeper than that.

Maclaren deserves to be aggrieved by Socceroos omission

The luckless Maclaren appears to have fallen victim, then, to van Marwijk's preferred tactical approach.

In his two friendlies to date — defeat to Norway and a draw with Colombia — the Dutchman has fielded teams with just a single striker, supported by men in the wide attacking positions.

Maclaren is a poacher who likes to play off the shoulder of defenders, breaking in to space behind them.

Juric offers more in holding up the ball, something that van Marwijk is possibly mindful of with Australia expected to be on the back foot in games against higher-ranked opposition in the form of France, Denmark and Peru.

Nabbout's physical presence, too, is a quality well suited to the game plan. His stand-out season with the Newcastle Jets that earned him a move to Asian Champions Urawa Red Diamonds in Japan makes for a strong case to be ahead of Maclaren in the pecking order.

Maclaren was deemed an unnecessary understudy.

However, Maclaren's recent record means he can still feel aggrieved to have been denied a call to the squad's training camp in Turkey. No chance afforded him to put his case in front of the manger before the final cut is made in early June, when three more names will be scratched off the list.

Alongside Maclaren, sympathy must also be extended to Bailey Wright and goalkeeper Mitch Langerak.

Wright has captained Bristol City to mid-table respectability in the English Championship and was a regular across the qualification process.

He has lost out to a combination of the coach's view of Mark Milligan as a centre-back rather than midfielder, and a failed audition for the problematic right back position in defeat to Norway.

That position will now be filled by either Fran Karacic, a Croatian under-21 international who qualifies for the Socceroos through his Australian-born father, or Sydney FC defensive midfielder Josh Brillante.

Langerak was vying for the number one spot under Postecoglou, but a combination of limited game time in Germany and Spain and Brad Jones' return to favour under the new coach has cost him.

Those strong decisions speak of a new coach who has quickly and ruthlessly identified areas of weakness and solutions to them.

There is clearly no room for sentiment in the thinking of a manager who has a simple brief of advancing through the group stage of a single tournament and nothing beyond in terms of development.

In that environment, accusations that Cahill's inclusion owes more to his commercial value to the marketing team at Football Federation Australia — as obvious as they are — appear less than convincing.

Van Marwijk sees value in a player even as he is on the cusp of retirement — he believes he can be an asset both in the sheds and, if required, on the pitch.

The clock is running down on "Timmy time". But dramatic late interventions are Cahill's stock-in-trade. There may be one more left to come.




Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Interesting that he already knew he wasn't in the 26

   Informed he had been cut from van Marwijk's World Cup group — trimmed from 32 to 26 — he then struck a hat-trick in Hibernian's 5-5 draw with Rangers in the Scottish Premier League.


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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*shrugs*

Who cares anymore? It's old news now.
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walnuts - 15 May 2018 4:26 PM
*shrugs*

Who cares anymore? It's old news now.

It's World Cup time

Lots of Quadrennial Casuals to get up to speed

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Could have taken both easily.
Maybe if BVM waited just 1 more day to make his decision.
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chondro - 15 May 2018 4:58 PM
Could have taken both easily.Maybe if BVM waited just 1 more day to make his decision.

the squad is not finalised until it's offically announced.  he could have put him back in if he wanted to.  it's clear the kind of set up that BVM wants. he wants someone who can sit far forward and hold up the ball so pacey wingers can counter

 




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a player that wasn't in the starting 11 of an A-League club does not deserve to go to a world cup, irrespective of his great past history.  
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Wright is more hard done by Milligan won't have improved playing in a petro$-League. 
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not sure how wright isnt better than a-league defenders but anyways... cahill has showed as he's got older he's even less inclinced to make nice tackles.. straight red in the first game he plays I reckon. Then will just be a wasted spot.
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jas88 - 16 May 2018 11:36 AM
not sure how wright isnt better than a-league defenders but anyways... cahill has showed as he's got older he's even less inclinced to make nice tackles.. straight red in the first game he plays I reckon. Then will just be a wasted spot.

thats my concern as well. hopefully he'll be told to pull his head in on the tackles.



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Really should be taking MacLaren. We're so thin up front. What if Juric gets injured? Richard Garcia to play striker maybe? I hope it works out, but I think it's a pretty irresponsible decision. 
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Derider - 16 May 2018 1:20 PM
Really should be taking MacLaren. We're so thin up front. What if Juric gets injured? Richard Garcia to play striker maybe? I hope it works out, but I think it's a pretty irresponsible decision. 

Rukavistya, and then Nabbout in a pinch I suppose. Assuming one or both dont get cut.

Maybe Robbie Kruse, god forbid.


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phutbol - 16 May 2018 12:12 PM
jas88 - 16 May 2018 11:36 AM

thats my concern as well. hopefully he'll be told to pull his head in on the tackles.



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they should still take others on the outer of the squad into training.  it's good for them to settle into the setup even if they are not playing this time around.

 




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inala brah - 17 May 2018 8:32 AM
they should still take others on the outer of the squad into training.  it's good for them to settle into the setup even if they are not playing this time around.

I agree. To me this seems like more a case of the FFA closing the cheque book on flights and accommodation  
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New Signing - 17 May 2018 9:11 AM
inala brah - 17 May 2018 8:32 AM

I agree. To me this seems like more a case of the FFA closing the cheque book on flights and accommodation  

This is almost certainly the case - in an ideal world, you'd love to take the full 32 to Turkey, have an 'A' & 'B' squad which could potentially help with better match simulation during the training camp as well as giving fringe players one last chance to prove themselves before the final 23 decision.

Of course, the FFA isn't a bottomless pit of money so that'd be unrealistic - possibly unwieldy too for the coaching staff being spread across too many players. But it would be nice to see more of an effort to bridge the gap for players joining the Socceroos for the first time.
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Timmy has shown he can score goals, when it matters, throughout his career. The best striker we've ever produced and he was always going to play.

MACLAREN HAD SCORED 5 GOALS THIS SEASON until last weekend. He wasn't in red hot form. He doesn't have a proven track record of success playing against quality opponents. If he didn't score the hat trick against Rangers (after teh squad was selected) then his goals again St Mirren and Dunfermline would have been easily forgotten.

He probably should have been ahead of Ruka, but Ruka can play across the front 3 whereas Maclaren is solely a number 9. 
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Watch Timmy score and this place go into meltdown
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kaufusi - 17 May 2018 3:09 PM
Timmy has shown he can score goals, when it matters, throughout his career. The best striker we've ever prodicyed and he was always going to play.

MACLAREN HAD SCORED 5 GOALS THIS SEASON until last weekend. He wasn't in red hot form. He doesn't have a proven track record of success playing against quality opponents. If he didn't score the hat trick against Rangers (after teh squad was selected) then his goals again St Mirren and Dunfermline would have been easily forgotten.

He probably should have been ahead of Ruka, but Ruka can play across the front 3 whereas Maclaren is solely a number 9. 

Your logic has no place on this forum, please kindly delete your account. 
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kaufusi - 17 May 2018 3:09 PM
Timmy has shown he can score goals, when it matters, throughout his career. The best striker we've ever prodicyed and he was always going to play.

MACLAREN HAD SCORED 5 GOALS THIS SEASON until last weekend. He wasn't in red hot form. He doesn't have a proven track record of success playing against quality opponents. If he didn't score the hat trick against Rangers (after teh squad was selected) then his goals again St Mirren and Dunfermline would have been easily forgotten.

He probably should have been ahead of Ruka, but Ruka can play across the front 3 whereas Maclaren is solely a number 9. 

51 goals in 84 appearances over the last 3 seasons... Maclaren should be there.. clearly knows where the goal is.


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n i k o - 17 May 2018 3:52 PM
Watch Timmy score and this place go into meltdown

Ill bet you everything I own he gets red carded? Please accept.

"Ok Cahill is on now with 8 minutes to go... hes pretty aggressive at the moment trying to find back the ball........... oh no its a two footed lunge... that's a red"
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jas88 - 17 May 2018 5:57 PM
kaufusi - 17 May 2018 3:09 PM

51 goals in 84 appearances over the last 3 seasons... Maclaren should be there.. clearly knows where the goal is.


I think you'll find most people believe he should be there, especially given the fact i cant see Juric starting every game. I don't however think it should have come down to TC or JMac. Both should have been included IMO. 
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kaufusi - 17 May 2018 3:09 PM
Timmy has shown he can score goals, when it matters, throughout his career. The best striker we've ever produced and he was always going to play.

MACLAREN HAD SCORED 5 GOALS THIS SEASON until last weekend. He wasn't in red hot form. He doesn't have a proven track record of success playing against quality opponents. If he didn't score the hat trick against Rangers (after teh squad was selected) then his goals again St Mirren and Dunfermline would have been easily forgotten.

He probably should have been ahead of Ruka, but Ruka can play across the front 3 whereas Maclaren is solely a number 9. 

You make it sound like Jmac was there from the start of the season, he had 8 goals in 15 games which is pretty good form. 

Also what are you on about? St Mirren and Dunfermline were in the Scottish Championship this season :laugh:

His other goals besides the hatrick were against Rangers, Hearts, Celtic, Patrick and Kilmarnock.



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kaufusi - 17 May 2018 3:09 PM
MACLAREN HAD SCORED 5 GOALS THIS SEASON until last weekend.

5 more than Timmy.
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Feed_The_Brox - 16 May 2018 9:04 AM
a player that wasn't in the starting 11 of an A-League club does not deserve to go to a world cup, irrespective of his great past history.  

This. 


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TheSelectFew - 17 May 2018 7:31 PM
Feed_The_Brox - 16 May 2018 9:04 AM

This. 

How many current Australian strikers would have got a start over Ross McCormack in that team the way he was playing? 
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Recent facts and statistics go out the window. All it comes down to is who would be best to bring on in the dying minutes of a game when you need a goal. A proven ageing goal scorer or an young unproven goal scorer at international level. For me the former.
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n i k o - 17 May 2018 9:09 PM

Genuinely feel sorry for the bloke. I would have had him instead of Nabbout. Hope it spurs him on to bigger and better things. 
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