Yes, of course there is. Or is someone in the FFA office going to sit down and list up the fixtures and ledgers of the WA divisions?

Football For Everyone is going from strength to strength.

We learnt today we definitely have a free ground provided by the biggest council in the state, with no charges. It is a central location in Hobart, Tasmania's capital city.

We had our first session tonight at our home ground. We have visited clubs at their home grounds before.

We had:
Refugees from Nepal.
Chinese immigrants.
Club W under 14s from 40 minutes outside Hobart.
Club H under 12s.
Club G with some elite players.
A state league women's player.
A college scholarship female player from the USA.
A Vikings futsal Australian rep keeper.
Another player from a club 40 mins north of Hobart.

We did the usual specific skills session.

We did them with partners in game context.

We then played a number of KNVB SSGs, all 4v4, some with keepers.http://www.bettersoccermorefun.com/dwtext/knvbgmes.htm

Most enjoyable session I've ever taken. I also learnt some excellent body shape and game sense stuff from the other head FFE coach C covering Insight and Communication.

All players left happy. The coaches who brought their players in were happy too. Parents were pleased as well.

Next week a mate, a coach, will bring in 5 state league females from another team.

Our elite players (seniors) loved it, seeing the social benefits to assimilate migrants and act as role models. One was amazed how good migrant player K was, being beaten time and again by him. He was wanted by the state team, but he has no money to play for the national championships. Currently he plays for no club. He can't afford registration fees. FFE is his most formal football.

Some young male players were surprised how good the female senior players were.

Country club W loved playing with senior role models and some other elite players. They have had some shocking hidings.

Players averaged around 1200-1300 touches.

Many players improved palpably just over the session.

All the accompanying coaches to clubs were good blokes. We incorporated them in SSGs.

Many of the players made new friends.

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Edited by Decentric: 6/7/2011 08:38:58 AM

Edited by Decentric: 6/7/2011 10:02:50 AM

=d> Keep us informed Decentric!

Nothing of the sort.

There was a Tasmanian club called Croatia. He stated he played in a number of Tasmanian clubs. One of them was Croatia. It became Glenorchy Croatia and is now the Glenorchy Knights.

[-x

"Played for Croatia, Caledonians, Metro, Rapid and University in Tasmania, as well as in the United States of America."

Dodgy as all fuck.

Not at all.

He played with a college team in the USA as well as the other Tasmanian clubs. He was also a triallist at an English professional club.

lol

If I had a buck for every time some old geezer said that he trialled for Palace etc I'd have garage full of ferraris.

OK you two, let us sum up each of your positions and get on with life.

Chips you think Decentric is a muppet who talks out his arse and has an over inflated sense of his own ability and importance. None of the rest of us care (oh, other than Rabid).

Decentric you think Chips is a hide bound and anachronistic curmudgeon whose relentless negetivity and unwillingness to enter into positive argumentative discussion is representative of all the values you despise. The rest of us are over it.

Now that each of your positions is clear can we either have one of two things occur:

1, you ignore each other completely
2, you restrict yourselves to impersonal debate

Since I think number 2 is impossible I personally prefer the pair of you two engage in option 1.

Please note that I actually quite enjoy what the pair of you bring to this forum except when it has anything to do with each other.

There are a few differences.

He follows me everywhere I go on the football interweb (stalking).

There is a vast difference in the way we relate to other forum members on 442. He puts some other members off contributing at all, trying to insinuate most other posters lack credibility. Some won't post at all whilst he is still here. Many other members on 442 have elucidated his forum demeanour and taken issue with him.
Other than Rabid, and a few other members of other forums, 442 blow ins, I've been on here for four years, having no issues with any other 442 members.
:x

He has been warned about his forum behaviour and threatened with a 442 ban. I haven't.

I see positivity in many other 442 posters' comments. He doesn't.

He has tried to ruin football discussion on two other forums (with help on one).

He starts no constructive or proactive threads on 442.

I don't troll and make snide and cynical comments incessantly on 442.

I would be happy never to see a post by him again.

I will try to respond to none of his posts/trolls/diatribes/insults from now on. It might help if the mods became even more active scrutinising his posts. He is saved because of the apparent rudeness of other young and immature 442 members who mainly post in Extra Time.

Other mates who aren't registered on this forum, but read it, have asked me to respond to some unfounded accusations by him.

Really?

When did this happen?

How was I supposedly advised?

By email, PM, snail mail, carrier fucking pigeon or via my lawyer?

Here's a classic example why I believe decentric is a douche, GA.

The bloke is a pathological liar.

This is exactly what annoys me about both of you. Let it freakin go. Then lets get on with it. I know about the history but let it be just that, history!

Though I must say that the two of you do increase the post count of the performance section with your antics :lol:

;)

He lied, I didn't.

Capishe?

I don't care. No one accepts what anyone says on here as the gospel truth, there is no 442 clique (other than the social one in Extra Time). As far as football, its theory and the implementation of training practices goes no one here gets any special treatment - you do not need to save us from Decentric, just as we do not need to be saved from you. The pair of you have equally valid and alternate view points on many issues, Decentric may spend about 50 times as many words as you on his but that does not mean that people listen to him any more than they do you.

Not sure why we're having this discussion, GA.

Seems like a tragic waste of bandwidth from where I sit.

Actually you were warned by KA, here is the post and the link to the thread.





http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=55869




Edited by Joffa: 6/7/2011 06:03:50 PM

Public liability is our last remaining piece of the jigsaw.

Apparently because FFE co -coach C and I are not coaching junior/senior/rep teams currently, we are not registered FFA coaches, even though we are qualified.

We don't want to tie ourselves to any club/ association who will come along and try to take good players away for their clubs to beat other clubs, and leave the mediocre players with us. Instead we see players c train with us and take back what they learn to their clubs.

Co coach C may take over a rep side where a coach walked out. This would cover us.

I have a mate who is a very senior political adviser. He set up contact details, which I followed up, with the Minister for Sport. We should receive PL coverage, but again the minister's senior adviser is puzzled why FFA won't give us public liability. Actually I am, particularly when they said they wanted to do it initially. I think the TD was keen, but the CEO simply follows head office edicts. According to my political adviser mate, when the legislation was drafted, no community group should be disadvantaged.

The FFE juggernaut seems to be going from strength to strength. We are greatly advantaged by being a non-profit, voluntary, altruistic organisation.

Tassie's top coach (NTC) walked straight up to me at a game a few days ago and acknowledged the success and quality of coaching of FFE.

One youth coach considers we run better sessions than the FFA state TD and his second in charge. He thinks we provide more specific technical work and challenge players more. He thinks his players are learning much more.

Three split state league club coaches want to take FFE for a session. One wants to permanently assist every session!

One state youth coach wants to take a FFE session.

One split state league reserves for a female team coach wants to assist on a regular basis.

We have three regular coaches, all with FFA youth licences, to assist at each session. The last four coaches we use to play in 4v4 SSGs and ref. All with a role of one or two touches, no tackling just jockeying, and no goal scoring.

I have assurances from 3 more female senior split state league players they will attend sessions - but I wasn't convinced about their commitment.

We are negotiating with a clothes company, fine foods larder and a football shop to provide sponsorship/ devise logos for tops for players and tracksuits for coaches. They will have FFE on the back and their company logos on the front.

There is access to big money from the Community Fund, but my partner and I don't want to handle any money. A volunteer organisation like Centacare may do this for us instead.

Sport and Recreation Minister's office are hassling state FFA about providing public liability for us.

One female state league and a US college player enjoy our sessions much more than their club training, even though they consider we do too much specific technique instruction. Apparently, we touch the ball more than in the US college programme. One of these players wants to assist when I go overseas for a few months in the imminent future.

Families of players are assisting refugees getting home after training. Friendships are developing.

Many, but not all, junior/youth players who have attended, are telling friends about how good FFE is.

The country players are really enjoying playing with quality refugee, elite youth and state female league seniors.

Top female senior players are enjoying the challenge of playing against male elite youth players and refugees who put more pressure off the ball.


This may turn out to be the most satisfying thing I've ever done.:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faSqc5va4Ls


Each session we take, a few of the players (often with less ability/experience) have trouble with this exercise. I racked my brains tonight as a few kids seemed to be able to take a reasonable first touch, but seemed off balance as they passed the ball, with either foot.

After a while co FFE head coach, C, suggested these players try and play the ball partially forwards - at least at 45 degrees with the first touch that takes them past the cone. This worked very well. The player on the right in the video plays a much more forwards first touch later in the video. This certainly helps players struggling to come to terms with this technique called Directional Control from the Barca Academy.

Players like myself, and many of the more experienced players at FFE, can still make an effective pass on the second touch, even if they/we play the ball at a right angle with the first touch. For some reason, which I can't identify, some players have trouble making an effective pass if they first touch at a right angle in Directional Control. The first touch with some forward impetus seems to help the player.

Krones, have all your players been able to achieve success with Directional Control?

I can't believe how well the FFE sessions have been going. Particularly given we have such a range of experience and skill, from junior suburban team players right up to elite/rep youth players, skilful refugees, female state league players and one female US college player.

Some players make palpable improvement from the beginning to end of just one two hour session. They must dream of a football at their feet!

Players are touching the ball from 1200-1600 times in a session.

It is a win/win situation.

If players come - great.

If they don't - it doesn't matter.

Tonight we took juggling (one minute); paired juggling (two minutes); first touch passiing in pairs, better players incorporating outside of the foot with both feet; alternate inside of the foot passing; lots of specific, stationary dribbling techniques; moving explicit dribbling techniques with cones/poles; then done in pairs with partners. The partner work is excellent for timing, distancing and slowing/ accelerating. Playes take it in turns.
For younger players we emphasise moving forwards as quickly as possible, receiving the passed ball from their partner, whilst moving forwards as quickly as possible to eliminate opposition interceptions. We instructed advanced players to really move forwards quicker than they were comfortable with to improve receiving at pace.

Advanced players are learning complicated inside sole of the foot dribbling interspersed with Brazilian and reverse step overs, whilst less experienced players were working on Matthews Cuts, body swerves and Cuts.


Barca Academy Directional Control is a favourite. Better players increased the distance, and also incorporated the drive//instep pass as well. They also hit the ball much harder, making it more difficult to control for an advanced partner.

Then they did KNVB 4v4s, plus Cardiff's soccer tennis (thanks mate).

We had an odd number tonight for the 4v4 SSGS. It was good because we had one group of four always doing a rondo in the rotation of 4 sided teams.

The rondos were great. We did it with a small grid of circa 10m x10 m. It was great for technique. Players in possesion had to move out of corners and try to maintain a triangle. If the ball just went over the line we kept it going. The defensive player often had to work very hard. The defensive player's coaching points were the low jockeying stance after they had quickly covered the intial ground to about a metre.

We incorporated 4 junior/youth/senior reserves state league coaches in the SSGs. They played with controls of no tackling, just jockeying, one or two touches and no goal scoring. Their job was to maintain the diamond shape of the quartet.

Rondos incorporated with 4v4 SSGs are fabulous. If one keeps them in confined spaces, one can't go wrong for technique development, game sense and communication - TIC.


We had problems with some teams scoring too many goals compared to their opponents. Our Australian Vikings futsal keeper was instructed to make some plausible attempts to let goals in from junior players.

Next time when a team goes up by too much, as well as restrict a few players' touches to one, like we did tonight, I'll swing Krones masterstroke in- the weakest player goes to striker and the team is not allowed to score until s/he does.
A number of Tassie coaches have recently used it with great success in 11 v 11, Krones. Thanks mate.
:)








Edited by Decentric: 19/7/2011 02:09:31 AM

Even though sessions have been going very well on the training track, I'm amazed at a few stakeholders in key positions in the Tasmanian football milieu who have made every effort to prevent FFE having any contact with clubs. Hence, many young players don't know about FFE's existence.

1. E. Junior Regional Association president S.

We have worked with players, clubs, coaches in his region E. He wants to have no contact with any players/coaches/clubs in his region.

He played with FFE coach C. All of a sudden he won't even talk to FFE coach C after being a mate for years.

Coaches in his region are staggered with president S's attitude. A number of his region's players are really enjoying FFE sessions. Coaches from his region are also participating in SSGs and rondos. They are taking these and other technical exercisies back to their clubs. Sadly, president S is refusing to be a contact person to faciliate large numbers of players participating in FFE.

S wanted to sack his TD, J, for letting me take a session with his under 12 rep teams to evaluate what FFE did on the training ground. The TD recommended FFE to his committee. President S wanted to sack TD, J, for letting me take sessions!

President S won't even attend a session of FFE to see what occurs on the training ground.

What motivates people like President S?
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2. Club president G of split state league club O.

We wasted 5 months of invaluable organisational time thinking FFA was setting up at club O. At least president G is happy for us to be around the club.
I think we will ask for FFE to take a joint sesion of the seniors and reserves split state league female teams with president G watching. Other committee members of club O maintain he made the decision alone not to go ahead with FFE. The female state league reserves coach brings his kids to FFE sessions and is a great guy to have around.

President G is only an impediment in that we wasted 5 months organisatinal time because he didn't inform us early enough of his decision. President G is very rich, possibly rich enough to be a benefactor of a Tassie A League team with a couple of his rich mates. Another senior committee member from club O has donated 25 footballs to FFE.

Club O also has the best pitch in the state in inclement weather.

3. State FFA CEO.

I can undertand his position, but he has pulled rank in providing material support for FFE, when the state FFA TD sees inherent value in the FFE project. If we could publicise it on the state FFA website we would gain more than enough publicity. The State FFA CEO is not prepared to think laterally with national FFA edicts.
Nevertheless, he has probably set up a proper state league.





All of 1, 2 and 3 won't observe FFE first hand, yet in their own unique ways, particularly 1, they have prevented many players from accessing a free football programme or stalling our project.

Thankfully, support is coming from other areas, but we could be a lot bigger now.

Decentric look on the delay as a boon, because of it you were able to iron out wrinkles in your training experience and have actually been able to take sessions with one of the other 2 instigators of FFE. These impediments have actually made the base for your program stronger - not everything is put in your way to stop you succeeding, a lot of it is to ensure your long term success.

I don't get these so-called obstructions.

Why does D feel compelled to have all these state and FFA geezers etc rubber stamping his private coaching?

Just get on with it, FFS.

Very true, GA.

Eventually FFE will be a resounding success in terms of numbers. ATM it is a resounding success with players attending and their footballing progress. We are usually working with 15-20 players.

I am probably impatient. I'm not getting any younger. I'm just surprised at the lack of support from some who should be thinking of the greater good of the game, not just their own petty empires and fiefdoms.

The Migrant Resource Centre youth co-ordinator is planning to sign me up as a MRC volunteer. This means I can drive their bus with a pile of footballing refugees to training sessions.:)

Actually between us we have 42 years football coaching experience and 27 years professional teaching experience.

Since some define coaching ability by winning titles, FFE coach C has won countless state titles with junior rep teams. He perceives FFE as being more important though.

That is excellent news!

Most things are going well for FFE.

1. The regular FFE players are improving really quickly. Club teams are being boosted with players who have gained game sense, confidence and a lot more skill with passing, dribbling, shooting and using both feet.

2. We have one regular state league player as a great role model. One couldn't wish for a better one - a technically very good player, with humility, modesty and considerable intelligence.

3. We have three FFA qualified adult youth coaches attending and doing all the skills and SSGs. One is very well known, a state league reserves coach of Tassie's richest club. He is giving great publicity for FFE. He has also recruited a retired state league keeper who is willing to take speciliaist keeping sessions at FFE.
This is brilliant, because I know little about keeping, but coach C does. Having a good former state league keeper as another coaching resource is great though.
The 3 coaches play SSGs with controls - no tackling, just jockeying, one or two touches, they can't score goals. They help keep the shape with the juniors in their four a side teams.

4. We are getting regular female players as well as all the males.

5. We are coaching players who have been desperate for extra coaching, often from country areas, plus payers who have missed out on rep programmes and some rep players wanting extra football coaching and SSGs.

6. The KNVB training is not only good for development, but the feedback is that most of the kids really enjoy FFE sessions. They played for two hours two nights ago, yet we kept them going for another 10 minutes because they were so absorbed in the KNVB 4v4 SSGs.

7. Coach C and I are really enjoying it.

8. We have another very experienced youth/junior coach, like coach C , who will assist as well, on a regular basis.



Our main problem is getting the newly arrived migrants to sessions. Two came for the first session, but they haven't been back. Maybe FFE was too structured for them?

I've been to some migrant organised football park sessions. They are much more skilful than the average local kids. They have played a lot of street football in Africa and Asia. Many of them can do a number of unorthodox tricks, which are effective in games. Nearly all of them are very one footed though.
FFE' s job, if we can get them to training , is to develop two footedness and working in formations.

If I drive the bus for migrants, I can't put the cones out before they arrive. All the cone marking over two grounds ensures no time is wasted. The only time not playing football are the drinks breaks between drills and SSGs.

Over time I 'm sure we will resolve these issues.:)

Many of them can do a number of unorthodox tricks, which are effective in games.

how do you intend to encourage their creativity whilst doing coerver type exercises ? can you do both or are they mutually exclusive ?

I do some Coerver exercises, but I'm selective. I never try to change a successful manouevre if it is effective, even if unothodox. The immigrant players present different problems technique wise.

Sometimes from providing a number of dribbling techniques - sole of the foot, inwards sole of the foot, inside and outside of the foot , body swerves, Matthews' Cuts, Brazilian and reverse step overs, and Cruyff Cuts, kids can work out their own combinations.

The creativity in game sense comes from playing a lot of SSGs. Coach C provides a lot of suggestions in finding solutions to problems before they play, and, during SSGs.

Hi Decentric,

I've opened an account to offer some advice. I have been one of those 'anonymous' who have commented on you a a few times, be in response to JP, CO or Decentric on Walter Blog. I understand your hitting a few barriers and I would just like to explain why.

A) You seem to be obsessed with statistics. In so far as to say you base your arguments on them. As you must be aware statistics in a 'open skill' sport can be and are misleading. They certainly have their place but your emphasis on them is or was too extreme.

B) Your obsession with courses ie KNVB. Again, they certainly have their place but as with most qualifications, the real training is attained practically. Experience certainly outweighs accreditation.

C) You are quite condescending as per this comment "to take this line of argument further and to its logical conclusion." Whether you realise that or not or whether it is intentional, it is defiantly obvious. Certainly you're not going to get far me with saying that.

D) MOST IMPORTANTLY - You have a belief that learning occurs at all levels and that everyone should be open to it. You abide by this philosophy in a real life context and it's why you're hitting brick walls. If, as I suspect, you have limited experience, you absolutely can not go up to a senior coach and offer them advice in the manner you do. Your telling highly knowledgeable and experienced coaches what to do because you've done a course and it just doesn't work like that, rightly or wrongly it just doesn't. Your confidence outweighs your experience. It irritates me and I have absolutely no association with you or any other club at the moment. I say that completely unbiased.

E) Your accreditation, I don't particularly care whether your licensed or just have a certificate .... it seems some people do though.

MY ADVICE
You need to earn your stripes. You need to slowly work up the ranks. Don't bulldoze in tell everybody your right and their wrong. You really need to shut up and worry about yourself, moreover, prove yourself. Hobart is small, you'll start to receive the respect if you truly deserve it. THEN you can start dictating, at the moment your in no position.

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