BusbyBabe
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I for one would love Jason Culina to play for West Sydney. I don't know what his current situation is. Forget that he hasn't played for a year, he is a class player.
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Glory Recruit
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^if he could get fit would make sense.
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sydneycroatia58
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BusbyBabe wrote:I for one would love Jason Culina to play for West Sydney. I don't know what his current situation is. Forget that he hasn't played for a year, he is a class player. If he was fit and available I'd take him in an instant.
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macktheknife
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:macktheknife wrote:Is Halloran one of those who are owned by the FFA? He'll go to WS then. I'm sure his contract also states GC somewhere and the last time I checked WS wasn't GC. Dear Mr Halloran, Your contract is owned by the FFA. We shall honour this contract if you choose not to leave the Gold Coast however we desire you to join the Western Sydney team. If not, you can sit out a season. Yours Sincerely, FFA Lawyers.
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Gyfox
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Roar_Brisbane wrote:macktheknife wrote:Is Halloran one of those who are owned by the FFA? He'll go to WS then. I'm sure his contract also states GC somewhere and the last time I checked WS wasn't GC. When Palmer's license was withdrawn all the players had to sign a contract with the FFA. Do you know what it said?
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Heineken
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2 words. Ljubo Milicivic. :lol:. Got released from Split in January for being injured, and shit. And now he's free. :lol:
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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Gyfox
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Heineken wrote:2 words.
Ljubo Milicivic. :lol:.
Got released from Split in January for being injured, and shit. And now he's free. :lol: He'd be arguing with the manager while he is walking onto the plane to fly to Sydney.
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Riv of Canberra
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Culina (after a medical and not as a marquee) would be a great signing.
Add to that Halloran, Thwaite, Beachamp and Cazarine and you can start to form a squad that will not be whipping boys.
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
And a few of the better and younger players from some of the old NSL clubs from Western Sydney would be good, if done the right way ie not out and out poaching but done constructively and offered as a pathway for some of these clubs/players.
And what about coaches. Are we looking at the likes of Popovic, Culina or Farina? Who else?
And what style of football are they going to play from the outset and what would suit the area?
So much for the FFA, new CEO and coach to get right.
Edited by Riv of Canberra: 6/4/2012 08:07:49 PM
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sydneycroatia58
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Riv of Canberra wrote:
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
No biggie, but Lucas Neill is actually from the Northern Beaches.
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cgorac
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sydneycroatia58 wrote:Riv of Canberra wrote:
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
No biggie, but Lucas Neill is actually from the Northern Beaches. Don't Want Luca$h Neil he's not from the west Mile Jedinak would be good...
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BusbyBabe
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Jedinak would be good but not as a marquee. Can't see us getting him.
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Neanderthal
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Riv of Canberra wrote:Culina (after a medical and not as a marquee) would be a great signing.
Add to that Halloran, Thwaite, Beachamp and Cazarine and you can start to form a squad that will not be whipping boys.
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
And a few of the better and younger players from some of the old NSL clubs from Western Sydney would be good, if done the right way ie not out and out poaching but done constructively and offered as a pathway for some of these clubs/players.
And what about coaches. Are we looking at the likes of Popovic, Culina or Farina? Who else?
And what style of football are they going to play from the outset and what would suit the area?
So much for the FFA, new CEO and coach to get right. I don't know why so many of you guys specifically want Sydney FC players like Beauchamp(unanimously it seems), Cazarine, Cole and Jamieson. Most SFC fans would put alot of blame for our average season on these exact guys. Jamieson seemed to be coming good late season though so hands off! macktheknife wrote:Roar_Brisbane wrote:macktheknife wrote:Is Halloran one of those who are owned by the FFA? He'll go to WS then. I'm sure his contract also states GC somewhere and the last time I checked WS wasn't GC. Dear Mr Halloran, Your contract is owned by the FFA. We shall honour this contract if you choose not to leave the Gold Coast however we desire you to join the Western Sydney team. If not, you can sit out a season. Yours Sincerely, FFA Lawyers. Preeeeeeetty much. He's probably house hunting already.
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Neanderthal
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cgorac wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Riv of Canberra wrote:
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
No biggie, but Lucas Neill is actually from the Northern Beaches. Don't Want Luca$h Neil he's not from the west Mile Jedinak would be good... No way Jedinak would leave Europe in the prime of his career. Luca$h should come to SFC since he's literally our only home grown marquee worthy product. Can't see it happening while Carle and Emerton are both here though. Bresciano is the most important one to bring to the the A-league imo (given that Cahill is so unlikely). I like the idea of him to Melbourne Victory and Harry Kewell to West Sydney. If not then Bresh straight to WS would be great too. I expect both of those two to join various a-league teams season after next.
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jack999
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i doubt jedinak would turn down being at a higher level and getting paid way more with the possibility of making the epl for the a-league. some fans need to be realistic and they link everyone to their team. not nearly as bad as mv though who seem to think they have already signed just about every good player in the league as well as ange.
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WildThing
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Neanderthal wrote:cgorac wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Riv of Canberra wrote:
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
No biggie, but Lucas Neill is actually from the Northern Beaches. Don't Want Luca$h Neil he's not from the west Mile Jedinak would be good... No way Jedinak would leave Europe in the prime of his career. Luca$h should come to SFC since he's literally our only home grown marquee worthy product. Can't see it happening while Carle and Emerton are both here though. Bresciano is the most important one to bring to the the A-league imo (given that Cahill is so unlikely). I like the idea of him to Melbourne Victory and Harry Kewell to West Sydney. If not then Bresh straight to WS would be great too.
I expect both of those two to join various a-league teams season after next. This would be ideal imo.
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jack999
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Neanderthal wrote:cgorac wrote:sydneycroatia58 wrote:Riv of Canberra wrote:
A marquee like Schwarzer or Neill who hail from Western Sydney would be marvellous, but a lot of money would need to be parted with to snare one of these boys. Same with Bresciano, but he doesn't have the Sydney connection, but so what, he'd be a great marquee.
No biggie, but Lucas Neill is actually from the Northern Beaches. Don't Want Luca$h Neil he's not from the west Mile Jedinak would be good... No way Jedinak would leave Europe in the prime of his career.Luca$h should come to SFC since he's literally our only home grown marquee worthy product. Can't see it happening while Carle and Emerton are both here though. Bresciano is the most important one to bring to the the A-league imo (given that Cahill is so unlikely). I like the idea of him to Melbourne Victory and Harry Kewell to West Sydney. If not then Bresh straight to WS would be great too. I expect both of those two to join various a-league teams season after next. beat me to it.
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I think Parra is the best stadium to base Western Sydney out of, but I'd love to see the very first Sydney Derby played at Homebush to be honest - I'd be a great indicator to see whether they can get more than 38,000k to the game, which is how many GWS got to their first Derby against a very well established club like the Swans.
I don't think they should open up with the Derby however like the AFL did...I reckon that should come in at Round 3.
R1. Western Sydney Vs Newcastle Jets - Parra Stadium R2. Central Coast Vs Western Sydney - Bluetongue Stadium R3. Western Sydney Vs Sydney FC - ANZ Stadium R4. Melb Victory Vs Western Sydney - AAMI Park R5. Western Sydney Vs Brisbane Roar - Parra Stadium
Here are my points: 1. Playing Newcastle at home would get a good crowd from both teams so a great opener 2. Playing CCM away would keep them from flying and save money on accommodation yet still give their fans the opportunity to follow them - should get a good crowd considering CCM are this season's premiers. 3. Playing THE 1ST SYDNEY DERBY - should fill up over half of Homebush 4. Playing the biggest A-League team in the land - big news, big interest, big crowd, great exposure 5. Playing Brisbane Roar who everyone now loves to watch and last season's Champions should get a good crowd at Parra and have a fantastic atmosphere...
These first 5 matches should get them enough momentum and exposure to continue growing. Obviously being FFAs baby, Western Sydney will get two home derbies, which would only help their popularity grow ;)
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i would love the first two games like that. would prob leave the derby a later round and definetly play it at parra staduim. ideally i would like R1: WS vs Newcastle R2: CCM vs WS R3: WS vs BR R4: MH vs WS R5: MV vs WS R6: WS vs Syd fc
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I think the best way to deal with the derby is to play the first derby in Sydney FC's ground since its capacity is 45,000. This way we will know how much fans to expect for West Sydney's home game and can move it to ANZ only if the first derby gets a crowd of over 30,000. Anything under 30,000 at Allianz Stadium then i think the next derby should just be kept at Parramatta Stadium as id much rather a packed out 20,000 at Parramatta Stadium then say 25,000 at ANZ. Its the only way we can have a good idea of what crowd to expect for the derby without any risk.
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robstazzz
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I cant believe how any West Sydney fans would want players like Cazarine and Beauchamp.There are much better off contract players to sign especially when mentioning Cazarine.
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Gyfox
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sobkowski wrote:robstazzz wrote:I think the best way to deal with the derby is to play the first derby in Sydney FC's ground since its capacity is 45,000. This way we will know how much fans to expect for West Sydney's home game and can move it to ANZ only if the first derby gets a crowd of over 30,000. Anything under 30,000 at Allianz Stadium then i think the next derby should just be kept at Parramatta Stadium as id much rather a packed out 20,000 at Parramatta Stadium then say 25,000 at ANZ. Its the only way we can have a good idea of what crowd to expect for the derby without any risk. That's a really intelligent idea, if the major concern is atmosphere (which it should be). Unfortunately for a business aiming to make as small a loss as possible, higher revenue intake is the biggest priority, which ANZ can guarantee over SFS. What they're trying to do is milk the cash cow as much as possible. From my understanding the intention is to play up to 3 western Sydney games at ANZ which would mean they could start with Sydney FC's home derby as robstazzz has suggested and then know how much milk is there for the taking for western Sydney's home derbies.
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robstazzz
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Yeh thats what i mean Gyfox i have no problem with the first derby being played in Sydney FC's home stadium and the return leg at West Sydney's home stadium. There just no risk involved this way as we would all have a verry good idea of what sort of turnout is expected instead of just taking a guess which is what we would be doing by playing the first derby at ANZ as West Sydney's home game.
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tom180
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Sydney derby needs to wait a couple of rounds for sure. Probably not the best idea to have the Melbourne derby around the same time as the Sydney (2-3 weeks a part)
The first Melbourne Derby was in Round 9
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i agree that having the first derby at sfs would be better as it would give us a detail of the interest. also, ffa should have no problems winning bragging rights over the afl as you can fit more than 38k at the sfs anyway + a greater atmosphere than the half-empty anz stadium.
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However they do it, I reckon they should only have 1 rivalry round. Maybe the first derbies. Have MHT vs MVC, SFC vs WS and CCM vs NEW in the same round only once. After that spread the derby games out, so it gives the league more marquee games to spread out throughout the season.
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williamn
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asanchez wrote:However they do it, I reckon they should only have 1 rivalry round. Maybe the first derbies. Have MHT vs MVC, SFC vs WS and CCM vs NEW in the same round only once. After that spread the derby games out, so it gives the league more marquee games to spread out throughout the season.
if there is a derby round, it can't be on the same round as the inaugural sydney derby. maybe somewhere like round 15 during school holidays thurdsday: Newcastle vs CCM 7pm friday: West Sydney vs Sydney FC 7:30pm saturday: Wellington vs Perth (8pm local, 5pm eastern), Melbourne heart vs Melbourne Victory 7pm sunday : Adelaide vs Brisbane 3pm.
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sobkowski wrote:robstazzz wrote:I think the best way to deal with the derby is to play the first derby in Sydney FC's ground since its capacity is 45,000. This way we will know how much fans to expect for West Sydney's home game and can move it to ANZ only if the first derby gets a crowd of over 30,000. Anything under 30,000 at Allianz Stadium then i think the next derby should just be kept at Parramatta Stadium as id much rather a packed out 20,000 at Parramatta Stadium then say 25,000 at ANZ. Its the only way we can have a good idea of what crowd to expect for the derby without any risk. That's a really intelligent idea, if the major concern is atmosphere (which it should be). Unfortunately for a business aiming to make as small a loss as possible, higher revenue intake is the biggest priority, which ANZ can guarantee over SFS. What they're trying to do is milk the cash cow as much as possible. Problem is you can't milk the cash cow if you dry up it's milk... Because that's what ANZ stadium will do. You have to think about the long term, do you want to build a fan base or do you want the instant cash? Which is better for the club and which will earn more money for the club in the long term?
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Gyfox
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Axelv wrote:sobkowski wrote:robstazzz wrote:I think the best way to deal with the derby is to play the first derby in Sydney FC's ground since its capacity is 45,000. This way we will know how much fans to expect for West Sydney's home game and can move it to ANZ only if the first derby gets a crowd of over 30,000. Anything under 30,000 at Allianz Stadium then i think the next derby should just be kept at Parramatta Stadium as id much rather a packed out 20,000 at Parramatta Stadium then say 25,000 at ANZ. Its the only way we can have a good idea of what crowd to expect for the derby without any risk. That's a really intelligent idea, if the major concern is atmosphere (which it should be). Unfortunately for a business aiming to make as small a loss as possible, higher revenue intake is the biggest priority, which ANZ can guarantee over SFS. What they're trying to do is milk the cash cow as much as possible. Problem is you can't milk the cash cow if you dry up it's milk... Because that's what ANZ stadium will do. You have to think about the long term, do you want to build a fan base or do you want the instant cash? Which is better for the club and which will earn more money for the club in the long term? It depends on the size of the crowd and when the game is played whether playing at ANZ would be detrimental to the growth of support for the new club. With the bottom bowl only open and near full and playing at night with the upper tier completely darkened the venue has a pretty good atmosphere. The bottom bowl has a capacity of just under 40,000. It is better than Etihad with the roof open for a crowd that size.
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Out of the names earlier, West Sydney Rebels isn't too bad
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williamn wrote:asanchez wrote:However they do it, I reckon they should only have 1 rivalry round. Maybe the first derbies. Have MHT vs MVC, SFC vs WS and CCM vs NEW in the same round only once. After that spread the derby games out, so it gives the league more marquee games to spread out throughout the season.
if there is a derby round, it can't be on the same round as the inaugural sydney derby. maybe somewhere like round 15 during school holidays thurdsday: Newcastle vs CCM 7pm friday: West Sydney vs Sydney FC 7:30pm saturday: Wellington vs Perth (8pm local, 5pm eastern), Melbourne heart vs Melbourne Victory 7pm sunday : Adelaide vs Brisbane 3pm. Excuse me, but wouldn't it make more sense to play: 1. Melb Heart Vs Victory - Friday night - In the city - everyone can go. Less travel time than Newcastle & Central Coast! 2. Wellington Vs Brisbane - Saturday 7:00pm (local) 3. West Sydney Vs Sydney FC - Saturday 7:30pm (local) - Prime time & pre-grame build-up show!! 4. Newcastle Vs CCM - Sunday 5:30pm (local) - Plenty of time to travel from Gosford to Newcastle on a Sunny Sunday arvo 5. Perth Glory Vs Adelaide - Sunday 5pm (local)- Adelaide is the closest city to Perth geographically so they should play eachother on Derby week ;)
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