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That looks like an awesome pitch.
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If Haliti takes his shirt off after a goal, I'm going to fucking lose it. Should be fined 2 weeks wages on the spot. He knows it's coming, hopefully they smack some sense into him.

:roll: You and the fun police should arrest him on the spot


Good idea sunshine.
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BRAND SPORT » Opinion: Creating a brand identity on the Western front

OpinionJuly 2, 2012

Opinion: Creating a brand identity on the Western

Written by: Anthony Costa

Last week two new football clubs revealed their name, logo and colours.

The West Sydney Wanderers will make their A-League debut later this year, while the WARL backed West Coast Pirates are odds-on to join the expanded NRL in 2015.

Two teams, two completely different brands. One attempts to be fresh and edgy; the other is staid and proper, at pains to prove it’s not another FFA flash-in-the pan franchise. One was sprung as a surprise; the other slowly teased out at public fan forums. One turns its back on the code’s local history and the stain of Super League; the other hangs its hat on a hundred year narrative. The Wanderers’ sure-footed heritage look seems to have struck a chord. What of the Pirate’s more fierce and flashy ensign?



Going for youth

It’s obvious that the Gold Coast Titans’ logo was a reference point for the Pirates’ visual identity. Same composition, similar style artwork.

The heavy black pointed brushstrokes have a bold comic feel that mirrors the illustrative logos popular in US sports during the mid 90s (the rebranding of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers comes to mind).

It’s a look designed to excite kids and move merchandise. To me it feels a bit dated, but that’s not to say it doesn’t work. Some of world sport’s most iconic logos are graphic time capsules, proudly thumbing their nose to any notion of trendiness. The West Coast Pirates logo may not be brilliantly contemporary, but neither is it clumsy or cringe-worthy.



What happened to the Reds?

There will be no mistaking the Pirate’s marauding mascot. In their final years the NBL’s Canberra Canons incorporated a pirate skull into their emblem, but no top-flight Australian team has ever owned the ‘Pirate’ name. Branding is the art of differentiation, and in that respect the Pirates earn a tick.

But good branding is also about making things meaningful; playing to how people think and, more importantly, feel. During the 90s the Reds gave Perth a taste, albeit briefly, of big time rugby league. Crowds were respectable, but the club was cruelly sacrificed for the sake of the Super League truce.

Why not build on this relatively recent history? Not only is ‘Reds’ familiar, but it lends itself to an emotively parochial us-against-them storyline: ‘Sydney screwed us. They stole our team. But now we’re back and ready for revenge’.

The Pirates may have adopted the Reds’ colours, but stories are written with words. Without the Reds name there’s no strong connection to the Reds’ narrative.The Pirates may argue that the Reds name is off-limits as it’s already being used in the A-League and Super Rugby. But these are different codes in different markets. Their existence doesn’t dilute the memory and meaning of the Reds to the people of Perth.

The West Coast Pirates, much like the Brisbane Bombers, are culturally meaningless marketing inventions that stand for nothing but their own selves. There’s nothing about a Pirate that speaks to Perth or Western Australia. Where’s the engrained community connection? Where’s the shared story? Enrollment through storytelling lies at the heart of branding. We all love to be part of a good yarn; Do the Pirates have one?



Why West Coast?

If the reason for not resurrecting the Reds is to avoid an overlap with the A-League and Super Rugby, then why use West Coast? Say ‘West Coast’ and you think one thing – Eagles. Double so if you live in WA. How do the Pirates benefit from confusing their brand with the goliath in their own backyard?

Perth Pirates has a ring to it, but the club went with West Coast in a bid to win over the whole state. It sounds sensible: cast a net over the widest possible market and maximize your potential supporter base. But good branding is about being personable, not generic. It’s about tuning into the way people see themselves. People say ‘I’m from Perth’; does anyone say ‘I’m from West Coast’? It’s a vague and contrived catch-all label, and in branding being vague and inclusive are two very different things.

But what of the Eagles? Using ‘West Coast’ has hardly harmed them. But when you own a market the way the Eagles own Perth you can get away with a bit of slack in your brand. They were the first team to play the biggest game in town on the code’s ultimate stage.

A virtual state side, the Eagles became the parochial flag bearers in WA’s longstanding feud with Victoria, whose VFL clubs had been pillaging the state of its finest players for decades.

The Eagles’ cause was bigger than football. From their first game they had a strong local story that was intuitively felt by their fans. Beating the Vics to win two AFL flags within their first decade ensured the Eagles a fanatical following and an armchair ride in the Perth press that continues to this day.

Not all Eagles fans love the ‘West Coast’ brand. AFL commentator and WA football doyen Dennis Commetti decries it as imported “American crapola” and has pulled for the club to be renamed the Perth Eagles. Similarities between the club’s inaugural jumper and the jersey of the then LA Rams suggest that the Eagles may well have been looking California way when they coined the slick ‘West Coast’ title. Commetti claims that club officials have privately admitted that the name is a problem and that a change had been considered, however Eagles CEO Trevor Nisbett disputes this.

75% of WA’s population live in Perth. Would it make sense for a fledgling expansion club to concentrate their limited resources on cornering this market? The Glory are focused on Perth. The Wildcat’s are focused on Perth. They started life in 1982 as the vaguely named Westate Wildcats. Two years later they changed their name to embrace the city that actually supported them. I think it would pay for the Pirate’s to think local and do the same.



Where were the fans?

Last week Seattle Sounders Director of Business Development Bart Wiley was in Sydney to speak at the Sport is Fantastic conference. NBACommissioner David Stern has described the MLS club as “the most successful expansion team in the history of sports.” For Wiley this success all comes down to fan ownership, and giving supporters final say over their team’s name was a vital step in making the Sounders Seattle’s team.

In contrast, the West Coast Pirates name seems to have been dished out from the top down. Who owns it? The WARL. As chairman Richard Campbell said at the launch, “We are excited by the [Pirates] brand and felt it time we opened it up to the community.” I’m sure the Pirates name was probably fed to the odd focus group, but maybe the whole process of naming the club should have involved the community from the get-go.

Real excitement doesn’t come from graphic window dressing or having a cool sounding name. It comes from being a part of the action. I’m not sure there’s much in the West Coast Pirates brand for the people of Perth or greater WA to identify with.

To me it sounds like a glossy franchise, not a heart and soul football club. An actor dressed as Jack Sparrow was a key part of the name unveiling, which makes me wonder if the whole identity is all about piggy-backing the popularity of Disney’s Pirates of the Caribbean movies. A football club based on a film based on a rollercoaster…where’s the substance? The last team to look to Hollywood for their identity were the Toronto Raptors. That probably says it all.

[http://sportbizinsider.com.au/news/category/sponsorship-and-marketing/opinion-creating-a-brand-identity-on-the-western-front/


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If Haliti takes his shirt off after a goal, I'm going to fucking lose it. Should be fined 2 weeks wages on the spot. He knows it's coming, hopefully they smack some sense into him.


Its funny you say that because that is pretty much the only thing that pisses me off about him. Its okay if your scoring 15 goals a season and only do it twice but ffs getting only 5 goals a season and taking your shirt off for every single one of them is a joke.
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I wonder what Tony Popovic's thinking in the type of football he will try to implement in this team.
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Barca4Life wrote:
I wonder what Tony Popovic's thinking in the type of football he will try to implement in this team.

From what I've heard from the training session today, they're going with 4-3-3 with overlapping full backs.
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Who's the keeper coach at WS?
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keepersball wrote:
Who's the keeper coach at WS?


Ron Corry.
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Any word on the name for the supporters group? Any suggestions?

BTW, what about this for the theme song? A bit corny but as good as I could find:

[youtube]ZMUQMb5VV8c[/youtube]

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For some reason didn't work... here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m6lymJy57E

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Joffa, WTF is with that article? It has nothing at all to do with Wanderers except a one line mention. The entire thing was about the NRL team West Coast Pirates. Do you read articles before you post them? :lol:
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Erebus wrote:
Joffa, WTF is with that article? It has nothing at all to do with Wanderers except a one line mention. The entire thing was about the NRL team West Coast Pirates. Do you read articles before you post them? :lol:


Geez everyone's a critic :lol:

And it was more like a paragraph ;)
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Do we know who the NSWPL trialists were? There was one Japanese guy - is that the Blacktown defender or does be play for Rockdale or Parra?
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penrithparty wrote:
Do we know who the NSWPL trialists were? There was one Japanese guy - is that the Blacktown defender or does be play for Rockdale or Parra?


Macallister and the Jap bloke from Rockdale have both signed. They played their last games for Rockdale on Friday night.

I'm not too sure on Macallister. He has done nothing in the league since that one good half season he had at CCM.

I've never seen the Jap bloke play but I hope he's good!
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Hmm it's been a good week or so since the last batch of signings were announced - Has anyone heard any talk, pending announcements in regards to further signings? From the above it sounds like a couple NSWPL boys could be otw?

Surely Poppa has some VISA boys on the radar too, maybe to bring to trial or more? If I have it correct you guys have 7-8 players announced so far?

I'd expect another half dozen to be announced soon, then it's the fine tuning, with VISA players and some more fringe, younger boys to top off the squad. Then too the NYL side - If I understand, the Wanderers will be having a NYL side their debut season, aswell as the W-League side?
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Yes, W-League and NYL side.

Open training session again tomorrow so more signing may be revealed. They are obviously doing trials so more NSWPL players will probably be announced in the coming weeks.
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http://www.westsydneyfootball.com/_/articles/home-page/lyall-gorman-attending-supporters-meeting-r88
CEO Lyall Gorman will be attending the first part of the Supporters Meeting on Saturday.
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WESTERN Sydney Wanderers are in the box seat to secure a financially smart deal as emerging Socceroo Adam Sarota's wage bill will be subsidised by his Dutch club.

Socceroos legend David Mitchell was handed a mandate from Utrecht to investigate loan opportunities for Sarota outside of Europe.

Mitchell confirmed Wanderers are interested in claiming Sarota's services after Adelaide United coach John Kosmina told AdelaideNow the forward was "asking for a decent contract".

But it's understood Australian clubs would only have to shell out the A-League's average wage - $120,000 - for the season while Utrecht funds the rest of Sarota's contract in a one-year loan deal.

"He would be a perfect fit for a lot of A-League clubs," Mitchell said.

"Adam wants to come back to Australia and play regularly and force his way back into the Socceroos.

"Utrecht said it would be a good move so he has the chance to play regular football at a good level."

Mitchell said the A-League was Sarota's preferred destination, but Utrecht have also said he could sign loan contracts in Japan and China.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/western-sydney-poised-to-sign-emerging-socceroo-adam-sarota/story-e6frfg8x-1226426485540

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Nah it really is Red & Black bloc....:oops: :oops:
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Red & Black Bloc is the Supporters Group Name: http://t.co/zF0EYIeD #GoWanderers -- West Sydney Football (@WestSydney)
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Yeah it was voted on last night.
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How can anyone - let alone the majority - think that's a good name.
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Roarz wrote:
How can anyone - let alone the majority - think that's a good name.

This.
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To All Western Sydney Wanderers Supporters not on the forum i would like to know if there are any runners on here as i have registered our Team for the Blackmores running festival for the 9km bridge run or if others are attempting the 3km or the 1/2 or full marathon being held on the 16th of September. simply Register on http://www.sydneyrunningfestival.com.au/enter/bridge-run and you select running for team Western Sydney Wanderers Supporters and the Password wsw2012. And also there is a chance that the club may supply us with running singlets or shirts with our club logo and team name on it.

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cgorac when are you gonna update your sig and avatar mate
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Roarz wrote:
cgorac when are you gonna update your sig and avatar mate


Soon signature will be gone but Avatar i quite like but will change it.

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Roarz wrote:
How can anyone - let alone the majority - think that's a good name.
Can any WS people try to explain this name to me? I really don't understand what the 'bloc' means. Its probably obvious but meh
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Was this knowingly related to http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc. Or are people just silly?
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MVFCSouthEnder wrote:
I really don't understand what the 'bloc' means. .


"Bloc" broadly refers to a group. E.g. before the fall of USSR, all the Eastern & Central European countries under Soviet rule were referred to as "The Eastern Bloc countries".

I think this is a fantastic name for WSW - it's fresh; it's innovative; it creates a "collective" & sounds strong.

This is the proposed logo - WSW ticking all the right boxes for me.


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