dingyv03
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Rumours on Twitter and Facebook are that the National Youth League is to be disbanded and all current A-League youth sides will compete in their respective state leagues.
I understand this is a rumour and without a source, and expect this to be moved to the Rumour Mill, but has anyone else heard anything that would confirm this???
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Eastern Glory
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[-o< [-o< [-o< NO! NO! NO!
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BusbyBabe
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I wrote a paper about this idea last year, I know the FFA have considered it, have not heard any confirmation though.
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STFA_Striker
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Maybe could have even just posted it in the rumour mill.......
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StiflersMom
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dingyv03 wrote:Rumours on Twitter and Facebook are that the National Youth League is to be disbanded and all current A-League youth sides will compete in their respective state leagues.
I understand this is a rumour and without a source, and expect this to be moved to the Rumour Mill, but has anyone else heard anything that would confirm this??? So if its unconfirmed and you expect that why not put it in the rumour mill to start. Edited by StiflersMom: 28/3/2012 12:01:55 PM
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Eastern Glory
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STFA_Striker wrote:Maybe could have even just posted it in the rumour mill....... No-one looks at the rumour mill.
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StiflersMom
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The one reason I can see this happening is to appease Sage, the FFA trying to contain the horses after one bolted
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Davide82
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Would much rather see an Adelaide United team play in the state league than the NYL
Then steadily add more and more junior teams/levels
Then be a club
I know people dont like them getting a free ride but maybe they can have concessions for say the first 3 years only where they cant be relegated etc then from then on they are just another local team
The only fear is that would the 16 year old that play against United in the state league still want to support them in the a-league..??
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MUFC_Juve
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Won't happen in my opinion. Or atleast not this season coming, but probably in the future.
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crimsoncrusoe
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It would make more sense for Youth players to play in State Leagues and NYL.The whole point of youth development is playing most of the year.Furthermore I don't see how any youth player can force their way into the top grade if they are not playing.I am assuming State Leagues will be not running in parallel with the A-League.If they are running in parallel then it's just an issue of whether playing adult teams is a better development than playing other youth teams.
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Eastern Glory
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crimsoncrusoe wrote:It would make more sense for Youth players to play in State Leagues and NYL.The whole point of youth development is playing most of the year.Furthermore I don't see how any youth player can force their way into the top grade if they are not playing.I am assuming State Leagues will be not running in parallel with the A-League.If they are running in parallel then it's just an issue of whether playing adult teams is a better development than playing other youth teams. yeah, i like this idea! except for the fact that these kids need to rest their bodies!
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General Ashnak
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Davide82 wrote:Would much rather see an Adelaide United team play in the state league than the NYL
Then steadily add more and more junior teams/levels
Then be a club
I know people dont like them getting a free ride but maybe they can have concessions for say the first 3 years only where they cant be relegated etc then from then on they are just another local team
The only fear is that would the 16 year old that play against United in the state league still want to support them in the a-league..?? This, THIS, THIS! As for the worry about them not supporting AUFC in the HAL? Not a concern really, playing with and against people end up in the senior team would I think give a greater connection.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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WildThing
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Would love the NYL scrapped and renamed to the b-league. For teams reserves and a few extra clubs. aka AIS Sunshine Coast Fire Marconi etc
Guys like Dadi and Brebner have played in the youth league for crying out loud
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notorganic
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Only way I can see this working is moving State Leagues to summer.
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neverwozza
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WildThing wrote:Would love the NYL scrapped and renamed to the b-league. For teams reserves and a few extra clubs. aka AIS Sunshine Coast Fire Marconi etc
Guys like Dadi and Brebner have played in the youth league for crying out loud This. It also gives the a-league academy sides the opportunity to play against the best juniors in the state. I also look forward to the day when I can watch the mariners reserve/youth team play against one of the old state league clubs up at the new boutique stadium at tuggerah with a half decent crowd in attendance.
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General Ashnak
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We do not live in Bangladesh, A.2 thank you very much.
The thing about football - the important thing about football - is its not just about football. - Sir Terry Pratchett in Unseen Academicals For pro/rel in Australia across the entire pyramid, the removal of artificial impediments to the development of the game and its players. On sabbatical Youth Coach and formerly part of The Cove FC
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dingyv03
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Farrand93 wrote:STFA_Striker wrote:Maybe could have even just posted it in the rumour mill....... No-one looks at the rumour mill. this
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notorganic
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The funny thing is that it probably wouldn't have been moved if you didn't mention it being moved.
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Benjamin
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This was mentioned several months ago.
I'm split on the issue - the players certainly benefit from being in a national competition playing against the very best in their age group. However, the financial benefits of playing locally will be enormous.
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BusbyBabe
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Benjamin wrote:This was mentioned several months ago.
I'm split on the issue - the players certainly benefit from being in a national competition playing against the very best in their age group. However, the financial benefits of playing locally will be enormous.
In the paper I did on this, the financial reasons were probably the main issue I raised in favour of them playing in their respective state leagues. However, playing against the best in their age group, I have to say that I believe the state league is better, not just in terms of quality but in terms of their development. Having played in the NYL, it was great to get a taste of the professional game but to be honest, it is nothing more than a glorified 20s state league. The experience of playing senior football will be far more beneficial than playing in their age group and coasting along.
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spathi
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notorganic wrote:Only way I can see this working is moving State Leagues to summer. I totally agree. Its the only way other than the A-League season being played in winter, which will not happen.
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Heineken
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Heard about this via a pro-NSL anti-A-League page that routinely throws death threats to A-League players and Frank Lowy, and Ben Buckley (although not necessarily in that order). I just raised an eyebrow, and scrolled on.
WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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RedKat wrote:Heineken wrote:Heard about this via a pro-NSL anti-A-League page that routinely throws death threats to A-League players and Frank Lowy, and Ben Buckley (although not necessarily in that order).
I just raised an eyebrow, and scrolled on. You mean that 'NSWPL and VPL to be on SBS' group which spends more time ranting about Lowy than doing anything... and the one that refers to Gold Coast as defunct, slagged Palmer off for ages and now are part of 'Team Palmer' and claim Melton has joined Palmer? And claimed that mariners were about to fold a few months ago? Good for a laugh Edited by RedKat: 28/3/2012 08:36:33 PM Yup, that's the one. :lol:. Every now and then when I have a bit of spare time, I like to troll them. I went to Uni with one of them, too. :lol:
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BusbyBabe wrote:Having played in the NYL Wow. I thought FourFourTwo forumites were only shit footballers. :lol:
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Benjamin
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RedKat wrote:Heineken wrote:Heard about this via a pro-NSL anti-A-League page that routinely throws death threats to A-League players and Frank Lowy, and Ben Buckley (although not necessarily in that order).
I just raised an eyebrow, and scrolled on. You mean that 'NSWPL and VPL to be on SBS' group which spends more time ranting about Lowy than doing anything... and the one that refers to Gold Coast as defunct, slagged Palmer off for ages and now are part of 'Team Palmer' and claim Melton has joined Palmer? And claimed that mariners were about to fold a few months ago? Good for a laugh Edited by RedKat: 28/3/2012 08:36:33 PM My favourite was the "Phoenix are going bust because the consortium doesn't exist" - 4 days later, the consortium took over Phoenix. I still hang shit on them for it.
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Benjamin
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BusbyBabe wrote:Benjamin wrote:This was mentioned several months ago.
I'm split on the issue - the players certainly benefit from being in a national competition playing against the very best in their age group. However, the financial benefits of playing locally will be enormous.
In the paper I did on this, the financial reasons were probably the main issue I raised in favour of them playing in their respective state leagues. However, playing against the best in their age group, I have to say that I believe the state league is better, not just in terms of quality but in terms of their development. Having played in the NYL, it was great to get a taste of the professional game but to be honest, it is nothing more than a glorified 20s state league. The experience of playing senior football will be far more beneficial than playing in their age group and coasting along. There's what it is - and what it should be. As scouting improves they should (eventually) have the very best U20's in the country playing in the national youth league - as with my comments on the A2, the best talent should be spread over 8-10 teams, not 30-40. I'm all for the Youth League continuing during the A-League season, with all players then being loaned out to state league clubs during the state season. Football all year round, elite youths for 6 months, state seniors for the other 6.
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danp638
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Benjamin wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:Benjamin wrote:This was mentioned several months ago.
I'm split on the issue - the players certainly benefit from being in a national competition playing against the very best in their age group. However, the financial benefits of playing locally will be enormous.
In the paper I did on this, the financial reasons were probably the main issue I raised in favour of them playing in their respective state leagues. However, playing against the best in their age group, I have to say that I believe the state league is better, not just in terms of quality but in terms of their development. Having played in the NYL, it was great to get a taste of the professional game but to be honest, it is nothing more than a glorified 20s state league. The experience of playing senior football will be far more beneficial than playing in their age group and coasting along. There's what it is - and what it should be. As scouting improves they should (eventually) have the very best U20's in the country playing in the national youth league - as with my comments on the A2, the best talent should be spread over 8-10 teams, not 30-40. I'm all for the Youth League continuing during the A-League season, with all players then being loaned out to state league clubs during the state season. Football all year round, elite youths for 6 months, state seniors for the other 6. Everything I have heard so far indicates that the jets will be playing in the NYL next year but the NYL team is also competing in the state league, win win really, jets youth get year round football, youth coach gets longer to work with his talent and they get to test themselves against the best teams in the NNSW & then against the best youth in the state. Ultimately I'd like to see the NYL evolve into the A2 with the best state league teams (able to field players of any age) joining the A-League youth teams. The state league teams that do move up would then be able to play year round if they wanted too. Grows the competitiveness of the A2 and gives the NYL teams an extra challenge, also gives a few more coaches a chance at a higher level and creates a central talent pool below the HAL.
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neverwozza
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danp638 wrote:Benjamin wrote:BusbyBabe wrote:Benjamin wrote:This was mentioned several months ago.
I'm split on the issue - the players certainly benefit from being in a national competition playing against the very best in their age group. However, the financial benefits of playing locally will be enormous.
In the paper I did on this, the financial reasons were probably the main issue I raised in favour of them playing in their respective state leagues. However, playing against the best in their age group, I have to say that I believe the state league is better, not just in terms of quality but in terms of their development. Having played in the NYL, it was great to get a taste of the professional game but to be honest, it is nothing more than a glorified 20s state league. The experience of playing senior football will be far more beneficial than playing in their age group and coasting along. There's what it is - and what it should be. As scouting improves they should (eventually) have the very best U20's in the country playing in the national youth league - as with my comments on the A2, the best talent should be spread over 8-10 teams, not 30-40. I'm all for the Youth League continuing during the A-League season, with all players then being loaned out to state league clubs during the state season. Football all year round, elite youths for 6 months, state seniors for the other 6. Everything I have heard so far indicates that the jets will be playing in the NYL next year but the NYL team is also competing in the state league, win win really, jets youth get year round football, youth coach gets longer to work with his talent and they get to test themselves against the best teams in the NNSW & then against the best youth in the state. Ultimately I'd like to see the NYL evolve into the A2 with the best state league teams (able to field players of any age) joining the A-League youth teams. The state league teams that do move up would then be able to play year round if they wanted too. Grows the competitiveness of the A2 and gives the NYL teams an extra challenge, also gives a few more coaches a chance at a higher level and creates a central talent pool below the HAL. This this this
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I agree with Berger - the young players need to play more football in this country. I am all for the club's youth team playing in the NYL in the summer and in the State League in the winter. But would the deliberate obstructionists like Marconi agree to that? Heck, they even brought down Project 22 by refusing to play against the young kids, and lobbying others to do likewise.
I guess each market is different, but here in Sydney there some pretty reactionary forces that stand in the way of progress.
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I'm split also. Perhaps as suggested by others just call it 2.A-League and get in the top 4 teams from each state league from the previous season. Melbourne Heart II, Green Gully etc. Edited by hmterraaus: 30/3/2012 06:21:16 PM
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