Why don't we do both?

South Melbourne Heart, give him an old Crystal Palace kit and tada! You have a new Melbourne team.

Lots of clubs overseas have done mergers. South Melbourne and Heart are both pretty small clubs in the Australian football landscape now. Could be a good thing.

at the MCG

What could the Heart possibly offer smfc????

You do realise over the 30 years up to 10 clubs in the nsl were from Melbourne right? do some research, even in its ethnic heyday the melbourne greek community was split between smfc and heidelberg united...who were a massive club in the first decade of the nsl, in 10-20 yrs time if Heart is still around it will be an achievement in itself, one things for sure, SMFC still will be.

A spot in the top football competition in Australia.

No brainer really.

Place both clubs side by side on the same track and the Heart will be a distant memory in a short amount of time - I guarantee it

Let's not go nuts! ;)


We wouldn't get more than 40,000-50,000, at the MCG that would be a sea of empty seats and long distance viewing, take nothing away from the atmosphere though, MCG is the best in the country imo.

AAMI Park would be the best at hosting these matches though.

My point was that I think the quality of passion of MVFC vs SMFC would raise the decibels way past the current contrived 'rivalry' that we have with Heart.

Edited by Axelv: 9/12/2012 07:29:07 PM

But if they dissolve which atm seems likely - why would south not go it alone? - just asking

MCG - 70K + within 3 years of combat

Fuck SMFC


Heart should stay purely coz their fans aren't constantly trying to bring down the A-League and it's teams with constant complaining, calling it plastic and claiming it has no culture.


If SMFC joined the A-League it would be a woeful day for football coz we'd have to introduce a club that has supporters that do nothing but rag on everyone. Victory would suddenly seem like good guys and SMFC would soon become the most hated team in the league purely coz it's supporters are complete knob jockeys.

It wouldn't be the good type of hate that draws big derby crowds either, it'd be the type of hate where people refused to watch or go to SMFC matches. The type of hate that would unite people into a SMFC boycott.

I'm not saying SMFC is a bad club, from what I know it's a very good club. It's a shame it's supporters are a bunch of whinging dickheads though.




If you guys want any credibility, you shouldn't be resting your case of entry into the A-League on the back of killing off another club. It just sounds petty. If SMFC want to be in the league so badly, how about they come up with a compelling case and the required backing, without resorting to dragging another club down through it?

If you can't come up with a case without resorting to insults and comparisons on another current club, your case has no merit.

Because South can't offer anything new. You say SMFC average 7k, Heart are doing the same.

If MH fold then I'd like to see Hobart/Tasmania or North QLD be added in.

Why on earth would people boycott SMFC games? the biggest domestic crowd Adelaide United have ever had at Hindmarsh at perth oval was against SMFC in 2004, the biggest domestic crowd Perth Glory have ever had was against SMFC in 1998...these records are yet to be broken after 8 years of the A league...sorry but its nonsense, smfc would be a much bigger draw away from home as well.

And personally im doing my bit in helping Heart by attending games regularly, and its not even my team. Not sure what more you want, just because we discuss the viability of the club on a form its not a big deal.

They'd do it coz their supporters want the A-League to die.

South averaged 7k on its own, 10k+ when you factor in Victory derbies, thats based on semi professional nsl level, this clearly means an obvious upside if upgraded to a professional level. Where is the upside to MH? the team is already competing in the most professional environment the country has produced, the club has won derby games in front of 40,000! but it hasnt translated to anything.

This!

However I have a feeling that if South Melbourne joined the A-League they'd have to change the culture etc. which would be a disgrace. People bang on about ethnic cultures ruining the game but the fact is the media wants you to believe that. I say fuck channel 9, 7 and 10. these people built the game. We are a multicultural country and should support minority communities.

Australian Premier League, I believe is the best place for South Melbourne at the moment. Promo/rele 2022 \:d/

Are you 10?:lol:

2004:

Adelaide United v South Melbourne
Stadium - Hindmarsh Stadium
Crowd - 16,558

Does this sound like a boycott to you?

Edited by southmelb: 9/12/2012 07:44:14 PM

Possibly but not as any sort of respectable professional entity, even my local junior soccer club is still around. Heart are a work in progress, they don't have the benefit of a volunteer community and entrenched migrant support like SMFC do, they haven't won premierships, played in nail biting finals and haven't really had a chance to discover their identity yet. Sinking the boot into a new club three years young is a bit of a low blow. SMFC had 30+ years and never graduated beyond mediocrity.

Well I wouldn't call a 30 year old against a 3 year old a fair race, but for what it's worth I think the toddler would still win.

Actually its a 53 yr old, that grew up with 10 siblings in the nsl in the tough times of the 70s, 80s and 90s, as opposed to the current 3 yr old who only has 1 older brother and lives in a mansion because of that older brother yet still cant get any attention.

Edited by southmelb: 9/12/2012 07:54:13 PM

...they might return to watch them. That kind of average doesn't demand a place by any stretch.

Edited by Someguy: 9/12/2012 07:54:02 PM

Name me clubs in 2nd tiers in this country that get big crowds? the biggest sporting club in the country (collingwoof afl) have a team in the state vfl competition and only get crowds of a few hundred.

Exactly, its second tier and a very shit one at that.

Here's hoping APL fixes many things.

-PB

Those things are all very nice and bring warmth to my heart but all that fluff isn't going to sustain a football club in a commercially thirsty environment. Give SMFC a $3 salary cap bill and we'll see how they fair..

Shame about the 10 siblings apparently South murdered them all.:lol:
At least Big Vic looks out for his little bro.

You really are a laugh.

Your loathing of Heart says so much, and yet you are in denial.

Tell me again: When was the last time you beat us?

=d> =d> =d>

Some strange logic in this thread. We dump heart because they get a crowd of 4.5K but promote South Melbourne because they might get 4.5K.

Have to admit if you could guarantee that the club could successfully abolish the ethnic status that permeates its reputation then imo they could potentially be a more viable option for the league. Taking the fact I support MV out of this, I want a second Melbourne based club to succeed but Heart are stagnating and don't look like they have the potential to grow. I don't think it would take SMFC long to match Heart with a core supporter base, but moving forward they seem the more viable option in terms of potential growth and the ready made establishment of a unique identity that would foster a quality support draw card and healthy rivalry with MV.

Lakeside is a great stadium for them and even for Heart potentially but imo needs to be made more accessible if SMFC have any chance of entering the A League.

Shut up about your terrible state league crap club.

Grow up FFS FulhamKid.
SMFC were a great club, I am by no means a supporter but to ignore that is just naive.
Ideally if you could guarantee their behaviour and work to abolish the ethnic status of the club then I'd like to see them enter the A League down the track eventually, but this is in an ideal scenario and would require a lot of work to achieve.

Ah, another anti-Heart thread from Chris...

I just love it how Heart's existence in the A-League pisses you off so so much...

Gives me endless enjoyment reading the tripe that you continually post about how crap Heart are and how awesome SMFC are...

Face it mate - Heart are in the A-league, SMFC are not...You seriously need to get over it.