:lol: Given direct evidence he refuses to face reality and claims it's somehow a 'sponsorship'.

Sure whatever, UWS sponsor GWS.

But that has nothing to do with people being counted as members after getting a free ticket and not even going to a match.

And note how he derails the discussion away from the actual point (fake memberships) because he knows he's been done, and brings up the sponsorships. Which had nothing to do with the fake memberships.

He was considered a member because he was given two free tickets to a game he never actually attended.

That is the point.

Not sponsorships.

Are you going to respond to that instead of trying to shift the goalposts?

Goalposts will be shifted. He'll shoot and miss, and still get a point for trying.

:lol: It's the ARF way of doing things.

FFS. Is this still going?

The way i see it, this photo says it all about the AFL. It's not about the sport giving anything to the people of WS, or even about catering what those people do in their lives as past-time activities. It's about expansion, greed and dominating and destroying all other codes. And it comes from fear.



I am embarrassed that they used race as a factor to sell the game (when at the same time comments from Collingwood president McGuire referred to those same people with: "I've just put a team together of your 17-year-olds who'll be sick of living up in the land of the falafel in western Sydney" Disgraceful! It goes to show even the AFL upper-echelon don't think it's a good idea and think the money it being thrown away. And they certainly couldn't care less about developing the sport or helping kids up north, they hate northerners.

But i still think this photo says it all really.

It says:
1). The AFL couldn't care less about kids having public grounds taken away for their use.
2). The local WS and state government are in the AFL pocket to actually do it in the first place
3). The AFL lies when they say they want to embrace the WS region and help reduce child obesity when they then close off these grounds to anything but AFL.
4). Have the absolute audacity to then say:
"The AFL will consider withdrawing funding from the development of sporting facilities in Sydney if local councils continue to close grounds on wet days."

The AFL in not in the business of sport it's in the business of business. Just look how they rig the rounds to maximise profit and media exposure for the benefit of the big but to the absolute detriment of the small clubs. Instead of helping out the small they will throw it at WS because it's all about market share and becoming a big fish up north before the threat of football becomes a reality.

I do this not because i hate the AFL, i do it because they openly lie about their agenda's which are openly hostile to football, not just directly but also through other less direct ways through government and specifically the media. We are under attack under the pretence that they are doing it because it's a great game.

You don't think the FFA have learned a trick or two from the AFL and put it into practice this season.

When you're playing catch up, you learn from the best in the business.

But you ain't seen nothing yet - wait till you see who gets the most coverage on Friday nights next season on SBS.

Do you honestly believe that every A-League club will get equal coverage?

It might happen I guess, but that's highly doubtful.

Say what you want about the AFL, but in organising its $1.25 billion TV deal, it absolutely maximised the live telecasts of all games, right across the country, leading some to say that you can see more live AFL on TV in Sydney than you can see live league.

Now go have a look at the NRL TV deal, and tell me if you reckon they did the right thing by league fans.

What will the FFA do with its Friday night games next season? Only time will tell, but the chances are good that they'll have the next deal in their sights and they will absolutely bend over backwards to pump up the ratings for these games, and clearly that means focusing on the higher rating big city teams.

Welcome to professional sport.

Disgraceful. Only ALF could stoop so low.

You can be sure you'll never see a $1.25b deal again. Good job avoiding the point of my post...as usual. So AFL-like, it uncanny.

For over 20 years now, people have been saying precisely that: you'll never see a deal like that again - and yet it has been increasing by 60% each time.

Now true, the prediction might finally come to fruition, but then again, note:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/afl-a-league-big-winners-in-football-report-after-viewers-switch-off-rugby/story-e6frg7o6-1226525246762

The other thing is that the last few years, the AFL has invested millions of dollars in its own media company, which is already making a profit.

In other words, Foxtel could collapse tomorrow, and the AFL would be in a position to immediately start doing live telecasts of its games - it would be generating decent coin from that venture from day one.

You have SBS all to yourself, as you've had for over 30 years now - and that's commendable.

I thought you were clued in and intelligent, yet after all the posts I read from you, you're still on that dead horse flogging away
They may be the oldest, but no-one around the world gives a fuck, except some sad Melbournians, Perthites and Adelaidians who want to massage their self worth by believing the spin fed to them by the AFL - you really do need to take some reality pills, as do a lot of Aussie rules supporters that I know who constantly regurgitate the crap that is handed to them.

I'm sick of reading all this code war bullshit, but every now and again.............](*,)

The biggest international game Aussie rules has got is that Clayton's game against Ireland, and they've been rattling on about that since well before the HAL even began. #-o


Edited by redcup: 15/1/2013 04:47:21 PM

:lol: haha only in oztralia - here here redcup !

But when you have a billion dollar per annum industry - why does it matter who is interested outside of Australia?

Not to mention: the biggest attendances, the most members, the most sponsorship, the most ratings:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/afl-a-league-big-winners-in-football-report-after-viewers-switch-off-rugby/story-e6frg7o6-1226525246762

etc, etc.

I don't understand your logic.

...and the most amount of fans with their hands on their dicks.
The victardia love-in for vfl is nothing more than an ingrained inferiority complex.
Victorians are well balanced people. They have a chip on BOTH shoulders.

We're not all like "Mr Football"

lol, yeh. But I've read big footy on the odd occassion. Strange stuff.

I don't understand the logic of non-football supporter spending so much time on a football forum.. That's just me though...

Not just you.

Could anything be stranger than Gallop claiming WSW will be bigger than Collingwood in a few years?

That's the equivalent of saying WSW will soon be as big as the other 9 A-League clubs, and even then, Collingwood is still bigger.

So I'm just trying to bring some perspective to the silly pronouncements one reads on this board.

If it weren't for me, there would be people out there who actually believe what Gallop is saying.

It's a public service.

just so you know Gallop never said that but dont let facts get in the way, afl dont

are collingwood really are a big club. i honestly hear nothing about them nor do i know anyone that plays or owns them or even associated with them besides i think once upon a time mark viduka said he was a collingwood fan? could just be the fact that im from nsw but really?

Coys can't be surely that stupid ? He is worse than wamakie and davstar rolled into one

You kidding? I've seen hundreds of kids on the streets of Munich, London, Rome, Paris and New York wearing Collingwood jumpers.

How about you bring some perspective to AFL's $2.50 a month dog memberships and the free memberships you are given with free tickets off the street. Not comparable to A-league Season tickets or even the 4 game membership (used by just one club).

The sad thing about you is that you don't even believe what you say, you sound like a politician trying to argue their parties line when they know its not the truth.

The whole expansion theory is a double-edged sword for the local AFL fan. Just like the times when there are two non-Victorian teams in the Grand Final. When that becomes a regular occurance, then listen to the Victorian AFL fans scream bloody murder because it isn't at the MCG. And if it wasn't two Victorian teams why would Victorian fans go? If this becomes common place, no-way will it stay at the MCG. And why would 90,000 interstate fans make the trip when it could be held in their state. This day will come.

Ramping up this scenario, the ultimate plan for Demetriou is to make it a "world game". Imagine if there was a "world cup" and Australia loses consistantly, how will the fans go then. They got it good so far, they should really wake up and realise NO-ONE will play AFL outside Australia. Half of Australia doesn't want it. FFS...

They basically have a world cup, only Australia don't participate (they should though).

AFL should be charged with Membership rape!

Still not responded.

I hereby claim victory over Mr "I said I was going to leave but went back on my word like a coward" Football.

This is what I keep hearing. But when Collingwood, the greatest, most famous AFL club of alltime with their wealth of worldly superstars played WSW in Australia where AFL is king, they only got a paltry 8132 people to the game. Man U in a BS practice match sold out in 3 mins an 80K stadium!!!

I don't understand the logic

Just an information for you, The MU vs A-League Allstars did not sell 80k seats yet. they only opened 25k GA ticket on last selling window. More will come in March.

Yeah, it's not gonna sell out. :lol:

Dominican Republic kids cannot get enough of da Piize!