Politicizing Climate Change, Science Left Out


Politicizing Climate Change, Science Left Out

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afromanGT wrote:
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You need to read up on the delayed effects of CO2 and the way it accumulates in the atmosphere.

That's not the point #-o The point is if China cut their pollution by a third you're reducing more than 10% of the world's pollution overnight. Stopping greenhouse gas emissions is like eating an elephant - one bite at a time. And taking such a massive bite will have a significant difference in the long run. Especially in a country that is LITERALLY suffocating its people with its pollution.

And vice versa for Australia. It's all relative. And per capita is a great way of capturing personal responsibility.
Looking to what China does (and they are doing something) is just a way of people justifying inaction/selfishness.

Edited by ozboy: 24/2/2013 11:00:46 AM
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ozboy wrote:
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Climate change is not true.
Minke whales are endangered.
There is 'Australian water' off Antarctica.

How long do we have to encounter these stupid understanding of the reality.
Sad to see all Australian media ended up in the Third world media status.

Edited by Viper 0: 24/2/2013 02:41:46 午前

What is right wing Japanese media's stance on climate change?


Japanese media are damb.

Climate change has almost disappeared since Megaquake and Fukushima.
They are busy working on next Megaquake supposed to come in probably next 2~4 decades around central/south pacific coast of Japan. As Nuculear power station stopped, we are burning oil massively.(environmental regulation for surrounding area is quite strict though...)

Edited by Viper 0: 24/2/2013 02:11:28 午後
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ozboy wrote:
afromanGT wrote:
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You need to read up on the delayed effects of CO2 and the way it accumulates in the atmosphere.

That's not the point #-o The point is if China cut their pollution by a third you're reducing more than 10% of the world's pollution overnight. Stopping greenhouse gas emissions is like eating an elephant - one bite at a time. And taking such a massive bite will have a significant difference in the long run. Especially in a country that is LITERALLY suffocating its people with its pollution.

And vice versa for Australia. It's all relative. And per capita is a great way of capturing personal responsibility.
Looking to what China does (and they are doing something) is just a way of people justifying inaction/selfishness.

Edited by ozboy: 24/2/2013 11:00:46 AM

How does per capita capture personal responsibility? People can't be held responsible for a company they have nothing to do with's environmental policy.

Like I said before, It should be calculated around GDP - how much you pollute in comparison to how productive a society you are. There's going to be a strong correlation between countries with a high population, low GDP and lower pollution (relative to other countries).
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afromanGT wrote:
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You need to read up on the delayed effects of CO2 and the way it accumulates in the atmosphere.

That's not the point #-o The point is if China cut their pollution by a third you're reducing more than 10% of the world's pollution overnight. Stopping greenhouse gas emissions is like eating an elephant - one bite at a time. And taking such a massive bite will have a significant difference in the long run. Especially in a country that is LITERALLY suffocating its people with its pollution.

And vice versa for Australia. It's all relative. And per capita is a great way of capturing personal responsibility.
Looking to what China does (and they are doing something) is just a way of people justifying inaction/selfishness.

Edited by ozboy: 24/2/2013 11:00:46 AM

How does per capita capture personal responsibility? People can't be held responsible for a company they have nothing to do with's environmental policy.

Like I said before, It should be calculated around GDP - how much you pollute in comparison to how productive a society you are. There's going to be a strong correlation between countries with a high population, low GDP and lower pollution (relative to other countries).


How much a person polluting is a absolute gauge.
It may have problem with giving more room for developing countries to go on without environmental restrictions.
But, still, it is fair and absolute comparison.



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How much a person polluting is a absolute gauge.

No it isn't. Your average person has bugger all carbon emisisons. It's all down to the companies and their choice to use less green, more fiscally efficient production methods. The onus is on them. Hence as a ratio of GDP is a more significant figure.
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Can we go back to calling it "Global Warming"? "Climate change" means little and is just political double speak.
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thupercoach wrote:
Can we go back to calling it "Global Warming"? "Climate change" means little and is just political double speak.

In the words of Wil Anderson: "Global warming - "GRRRRR!" Climate change - "ehhhhh."
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