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Pity it didn't make it to number 1.

I'll be singing that in September. Please don't get offended.

You do that. I'm sure it will be some consolation when Abbott runs this country even further into the ground.

He's going to have a helluva job on his hands to fix the mess. Like Howard and Costello fixed Keating's crap and left the country in surplus after inheriting a massive deficit.

This is seriously the worst Australian government I've lived under. And Keating and Fraser take some beating.

Time to ditch the witch indeed. Septemeber can't come soon enough.

You're a right-wing elitist, EVERY left-wing government is "the worst government you've lived under" :roll:

Right wing politically, left wing socially.

Not EVERY Labor government - Hawke's is the second best I've lived under. And Fraser's comes a close third worst after this one and Keating's.

Elitist? Lol, what does that even mean? It's just a term people use to politically insult each other. What's the opposite of elitism? Egalitarianism? I'm all for that.

Don't go over all James Dean mate, you look like a rebel without a clue.

Exactly lol elitist :D

Gets thrown around by both 'sides' ...

I prefer liberty and a little more self determination...that way folks are free to pursue their own version of 'elitism' ...or is this too individualist for the left to handle these days?

They could use a nice dose of Objectivism. Leonard Peikoff's Ominous Parallels is a great read on the philosophical divide between collectivists and individualism...

Give individuals incentive to earn and most of the rest will take care of itself. Government just needs to learn to get out of the way.

If money isn't incentive to earn, I don't know what is.

Handouts are not incentive in themselves...

And they need less of the disincentive that leads them to sit on their arses...most my family are on welfare, they go from unemployed to long term to disability/unemployable...ridiculous...such an entitlement society. It gets worse when they get rewards for breeding ffs :lol:

I took a bit of austudy coin back in the day, works ok if there is incentive in the system. I used to think work for dole was barbaric in my lefty days but geez its really absurd to not have some sort of obligation attached.


Edited by blacka: 19/4/2013 04:29:04 PM

High taxation and bureaucracy are a massive disincentive.

Bureaucracy and corporatism are massive disincentive to entrepreneurship

Can't comment on afro or AJohn's motivations, but having grown up in one of the areas most affected by Thatcher's reign and policies, I can't help but appreciate their comments.

You can laud her concepts and ideals as much as you like, but you didn't experience the negative side-effects they caused, and didn't see (daily) her ambivalence to those affected by them.

Don't be daft, thupercoach is waaaaaaaaaaaayyy too out of touch to experience such things.

Flawed logic is flawed.

Afro - what am I out of touch with? Real people? Running a business? The corporate world? Paying taxes?

I know this much - for a good economy you need to reward people to take on the risk of running a business. Because after the bar you work goes under you'll lose your job but will get another. The guy who owns it loses the lot.

Get out from behind your laptop and start a business son. And then see if you still live in socialist la la land. And when you start employing people I will say thank you for helping Australia.