Yet there are crimes of passion.Go figure.:lol: :lol:

So you mean there's some interesting news coming out of SMFC headquarters?

Apparently an announce next week from the club.

Joins in 2013 lol.

-PB

Do you think all Greeks follow South Melbourne Hellas? I think not.

We want clubs where everyone is welcome.

Would Macedonian fans for example feel welcome at South Melbourne Hellas? No they wouldn't.

Funny story... I've been to South too many times to remember - never once had to demonstrate that I'm of any particular nationality, and never seen anyone else asked to provide any identification either. I'm pretty sure that ALL are welcome at Lakeside.

That's funny because I have been to many games also and have seen anti macedonian banners and chants at South Melbourne v Preston games. "Bulgarians Go Home" banner etc.

Yep definitely a club for ALL to follow. Not!

This only happened once and it was post Nsl when a few non supporters of both clubs were letting off a bit of a steam, fwiw I know a maco that goes for south and has no interest in that stuff.

Now that ive been reading your posts krusen you sound a lot like paulc...

Anti Macedonian chants have been going on forever.

How about flying Serbian flags when playing Melbourne Knights.

Edited by Krusen: 27/6/2015 03:32:31 PM

Only stating the facts TheSelectFew.

maybe you just have olive skin

It would be funny if these guys drew an A-league side and got spanked

I don't usually write on forums but - people should expect some developments ~

1) South Melbourne FC will soon establish a new entity this entity will be known as South Melbourne United.
2) South Melbourne United FC will be the name of the organization to bid for a license to the A League
3) South Melbourne United FC will be majority owned by South Melbourne FC but also include Private Investors
4) South Melbourne United FC will wear a White Strip with a Red V. The current SMFC logo will remain.
5) South Melbourne FC will have a team in the Victorian NPL also and they will keep the name South Melbourne FC this team will wear Blue and White and maintain the historical traditions of SMFC.
6) The clubs will play out of Lakeside Stadium in Melbourne. South Melbourne United in the Summer A League Season and South Melbourne FC in the Winter NPL season.
7) I believe there is substantial support for this both in Victoria and the Football Authorities in Sydney as it would give the league 4 extra derbies in Melbourne per year.

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On the other issue of whether people will feel welcome or not, people like Goran Lozanovski and Agim Sherifofski had no problem playing for South Melbourne and there families had no problem. Tansel Baser who is of Turkish Descent had no problem and he was even captain of South Melbourne FC at one stage. Tansel's family always felt comfortable and were regular attendees.

The only people who want to raise these types of issues are people who want to put politics and ethnicity into sport. For me these people are no good for football irrespective of whether they are greek or Italian or german or whatever. Ethnicity doesn't matter and no one should mix sport and politics. Football is about Football and it should only ever be about Football.

Sounds exciting, and rather intriguing. I look forward to hearing any further movements.

best of luck to ya. Not to sure about your colour choices and jersey with a V. You basically got MV jesery in heart colour. I really think this need to be thought out better.

But when there is a 3rd vic team on the cards and it is basically between south melbourne and geelong. you have 50% chance to get in.

Its tradition area colours

5- So you would end up with an A-League team and South Melbourne as well as SMUFC u21 in NPLV?
There would probably be some complaints about that

7 - it would be 6 extra derbies

South Melbourne coat of arms

Thought as much.

How would you know if Melbourne is ready for a 3rd team? You're from Perth dickhead.

This all news to me in regards to the bid,

What I do know is the white and red V will be worn by the team in the FFA cup match against Palm beach sharks, the last time this strip was used by the club was back in 2009 as part of the clubs 50 year celebrations, so it kinda makes sense now.

Interesting, where did you get this info from? Guessing you're involved within SM?

Would've thought SM would be gunning for their own spot in the AL, rather than this mini rebrand but it sounds like it would work, especially if they market themselves to the inner eastern suburbs (the rich side of town)

If it's going to happen it would be like this, it's basically the port Adelaide model.

So two different clubs with the same logo. That makes sense. How would the current logo relate to the United brand?

Players of different nationalities playing for a club is totally different to attracting supporters from different backgrounds to monocultural clubs. Especially nationalistic monocultural clubs. The NSL is proof of that.

Monocultural clubs such as South Melbourne Hellas have always mixed politics and football. Fact!

Simple question does South Melbourne attract say Macedonian, Turkish and Croatian supporters in great numbers?







Edited by Krusen: 3/7/2015 07:26:05 PM

Krusen,

This will be my last post until this is all made public in the period ahead but I will try and answer your question/s.

1) In terms of the logo if you see the current SMFC logo you will see the words South Melbourne FC. The logo will be the same but the word United or Utd will appear where the current FC appears on the badge. So instead of South Melbourne FC it will appear as South Melbourne United or South Melbourne Utd. Everything else on the logo will stay as is.

2) Your second point is irrelevant to be honest, the fact that these players played and that people of various descents attend games shows that everyone is welcome at South Melbourne.

3)Your third point that mono-cultural clubs such as South Melbourne have always mixed politics and sport is just your opinion. You call it a fact - but I noted that you made no further points, in reality its just your opinion. Other people have other opinions. Being Australian I respect your view and your right to express it, I hope you respect my view which is different to yours. We are fortunate to live in the greatest country in the world, Australia is a great modern democracy and we all the right to express our opinions.

4) You ask if South Melbourne can attract Macedonian, Turkish or Croatian supporters? I don't know. That's up to the respective individual supporters. I don't expect all "Greek Australian" supporters to support South Melbourne United. Victory has a number of Greek Australian supporters who I expect will stay with the Victory and that's excellent too. Maybe those supporters who supported Melbourne Knights or the other clubs wont want to support South - but they have Melbourne Victory or Melbourne City as other support choices.

South Melbourne United will be open to anyone and everyone who wants to support it, whether they have Greek background, English background, Italian, German, Croatian or anything else. A lot of work has been done, South Melbourne (United) can expect to average 8000+ people to games versus non derby teams. Against Melbourne Victory and Melbourne City, there will be sell outs at Lakeside Stadium although we expect that these games will be moved to much larger stadiums.

Overall the league will benefit from the extra derbies not only in terms of crowd support, better games but more importantly from a television, Foxtel and TV rights point of view. The more money from TV rights the stronger the A League becomes. All A League teams will benefit with higher returns from the FFA from TV Rights.

That's it for now until more is known publically.

So the United logo will not be in red and white and will remain blue and white like the Greek national flag?

South Melbourne Hellas

The club was formed in 1959 with the amalgamation of three struggling Melbourne football clubs South Melbourne United, the oldest of the three clubs with a history dating back to the early 1900s, the Greek-backed Yarra Park Aiantas, and Hellenic. In recognition of the large Greek support base of Hellenic and Yarra Park, which were also the best-supported of the three clubs, the new club was named South Melbourne Hellas, the name by which it was to be known for the majority of its first 40 years. The first emblem reflected the colour scheme of the Flag of Greece. The first uniform was that of South Melbourne United, which consisted of white with a red 'V' around the collar. Later on they would adopt predominantly blue and white strips, with various designs throughout the seasons, with the most common being a predominantly royal blue strip

Edited by Krusen: 3/7/2015 08:59:47 PM

Stella played for you lot the day you wore that kit in 2009, fun fact. :lol: