Neanderthal
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Scoll
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Regardless of whether it's a good thing to do or not, it is an expensive waste of time. Won't protect children from viewing porn, as they are always the most technically savvy so of course they will proxy around the filter and teach each other how to do so. Won't prevent deviants because the successful ones adapt to survive and develop the skills necessary to do so. Won't prevent your regular citizens who want porn as they will whitelist it for their residence.
The only people who will have any restriction to their activities after this is implemented are regular citizens who don't want to view porn. A whole mess of steam and bluster for a political participation award ribbon, I really hope this doesn't cost their taxpayers much because they will get nothing in return.
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afromanGT
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Neanderthal wrote:Just to add fuel to this discussion: Incidents of rape have dramatically decreased with the rise of pornography in the west.
Will be very interesting to watch the rape stats over the next decade.
On the plus side, it's good if they are preventing kids getting addicted at an early age.
Also, the prostitution industry in the UK is really happy about this. Buy stocks in strip clubs now!!!
Edited by neanderthal: 24/7/2013 06:23:52 PM But by the same token, instances of rape have also increased in countries where pornography is illegal such as India. Correlation does not mean causation. The thing that I don't get is that they want to censor porn on the intnernet, but they have late night shows like Babestation showing softcore porn on television on a nightly basis.
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MaxiiGCU
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I really don't understand how anyone can see this as a good thing.
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thupercoach
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Neanderthal wrote:Just to add fuel to this discussion: Incidents of rape have dramatically decreased with the rise of pornography in the west.
Will be very interesting to watch the rape stats over the next decade.
On the plus side, it's good if they are preventing kids getting addicted at an early age.
Also, the prostitution industry in the UK is really happy about this. Buy stocks in strip clubs now!!!
Edited by neanderthal: 24/7/2013 06:23:52 PM I don't believe the two things are linked. Porn and rape and poles apart (unless obviously it's those porn movies that actually depict rape, and I'm all in favour of banning those).
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Neanderthal
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Just to add fuel to this discussion: Incidents of rape have dramatically decreased with the rise of pornography in the west.
Will be very interesting to watch the rape stats over the next decade.
On the plus side, it's good if they are preventing kids getting addicted at an early age.
Also, the prostitution industry in the UK is really happy about this. Buy stocks in strip clubs now!!!
Edited by neanderthal: 24/7/2013 06:23:52 PM
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Glory Recruit
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I agree with Afro and Notor.
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thupercoach wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Whenever you attempt to censor something legal, you're gonna have a bad time.
-PB This. What's really incredible is that Ozboy, Afro, Notor and I have found something we all agree on. I find it really cute when notor and afro agree on things <3
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toffeeAU
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Mozilla wrote:How are there people who actually support this ](*,) How are there people that don't? Good idea, fully supportive. Not that it will probably stop it to the extent they're hoping, but at least it's proactive.
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afromanGT
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Does google not have a built in content filter in the UK?
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thupercoach
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paulbagzFC wrote:Whenever you attempt to censor something legal, you're gonna have a bad time.
-PB This. What's really incredible is that Ozboy, Afro, Notor and I have found something we all agree on.
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Mozilla
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How are there people who actually support this ](*,)
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paulbagzFC
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Whenever you attempt to censor something legal, you're gonna have a bad time. -PB
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notorganic
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Eastern Glory wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.???? Shame has nothing to do with it. I'm an adult. I choose what type of media I consume, it's nobody else's business. Certainly not the governments. Spot on. And that's why Cameron has done this. Adults are able to make their own choice by simply making a phone call, and adults are able to make decisions for their family, like adults should. Except that it's the wrong way around. I shouldn't need to tell anyone that I want to consume porn, it's just absurd, it's absolutely nobody's business to know that and having to opt-in to porn makes it somebody elses business by default.
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afromanGT
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Yeah, now it's porn. For sensitive people's decency. But what next? And where does it stop?
Y'know, if you're sick of seeing porn on the internet, why don't you stop googling it?
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. This.
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TheSelectFew
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Just torrent from foreign based sites. Not that hard. ;)
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Eastern Glory
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.???? Shame has nothing to do with it. I'm an adult. I choose what type of media I consume, it's nobody else's business. Certainly not the governments. Spot on. And that's why Cameron has done this. Adults are able to make their own choice by simply making a phone call, and adults are able to make decisions for their family, like adults should.
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SlyGoat36
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zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I just reread what i wrote and don't think i understand what i said either. I've been fasting the whole day, i think i'm tired. I guess the point i'm trying to make is that pornography has been an issue for many years. Kids have far too much access to it and lobby groups have been pushing for change, but nothing is happening. I don't think the government wants to come across as the type that are not concerned for the welfare of their youth. SlyGoat36 wrote:
What if I am? ;)
I do think its wrong that it is censored.
People should be allowed to search what they like provided it doesn't harm anyone. The English should invest more of their time shutting that prick Choudary up, his hate preaching causes far more damage then a little porn.
I'm not sure how to read that wink. Putting this down to muslims is stupid and silly. Whilst i agree with you on Choudary, would that not be denying him freedom of speech? Wink was a joke, should have used the tongue in cheek smiley! What ask yourself what's worse, people's freedom to porn or freedom to spread hate? I guess what in trying to say is that there are other things they could be trying to ban other then porn.
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zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I guess the point i'm trying to make is that pornography has been an issue for many years. Kids have far too much access to it and lobby groups have been pushing for change, but nothing is happening. I don't think that pornography is a big issue. Who determines what kids have access to? What gives you the right to govern other peoples kids?
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zimbos_05
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notorganic wrote:I don't understand the point you're trying to make. I just reread what i wrote and don't think i understand what i said either. I've been fasting the whole day, i think i'm tired. I guess the point i'm trying to make is that pornography has been an issue for many years. Kids have far too much access to it and lobby groups have been pushing for change, but nothing is happening. I don't think the government wants to come across as the type that are not concerned for the welfare of their youth. SlyGoat36 wrote:
What if I am? ;)
I do think its wrong that it is censored.
People should be allowed to search what they like provided it doesn't harm anyone. The English should invest more of their time shutting that prick Choudary up, his hate preaching causes far more damage then a little porn.
I'm not sure how to read that wink. Putting this down to muslims is stupid and silly. Whilst i agree with you on Choudary, would that not be denying him freedom of speech?
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99 Problems
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There are 2 groups of men in this world. Those who watch porn, and those who lie about watching porn.
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notorganic
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I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
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SlyGoat36
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zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.???? What if I am? ;) I do think its wrong that it is censored. People should be allowed to search what they like provided it doesn't harm anyone. The English should invest more of their time shutting that prick Choudary up, his hate preaching causes far more damage then a little porn.
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zimbos_05
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.???? Shame has nothing to do with it. I'm an adult. I choose what type of media I consume, it's nobody else's business. Certainly not the governments. When lobby groups are pressing the government and forcing to make things a matter of national concern, im sure the government comes in to it. Whilst you may not like it, it's certainly an issue.
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notorganic
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zimbos_05 wrote:notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.???? Shame has nothing to do with it. I'm an adult. I choose what type of media I consume, it's nobody else's business. Certainly not the governments.
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Censorship is wrong.
It is up to the individual to do what is right. By all means make specific types of images illegal, due to violence and exploitation reasons but to out right ban access to legal things is wrong. Next it is the augmenting of music videos to be moer family friendly, lyrical content, revising books that could be seen as inflammatory or not in alignment with "our moral code" monitoring of all facebook and twitter accounts to ensure that no one can view something that is considered offensive.
all it will do is create yet another blaok market for people of a dubious nature to exploit.
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zimbos_05
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notorganic wrote:zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. It's making it mandatory to have individuals discuss their PRIVATE business to companies. Once you "opt-in" to porn, do you then go on a list of "porn consumers"? What happens to that list and who has access to it? Opt-out filters, fine, but opt-in is an absolute overreach into the personal affairs of British citizens and should be outrageously offensive to any citizen in the world. Clearly if you too ashamed of your porn watching habits then you shouldn't be doing it. I see the point you trying to make, i think opt out could work better. Its probably the government showing they want to take a stand against something. SlyGoat36 wrote:Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn. Please tell me you are not serious, please for all that is good in this world, tell me you are not serious.????
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SlyGoat36
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Typical of the Muslims taking over England.
Now every kid will grow up angry and start hacking heads of those who do watch porn.
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thupercoach
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zimbos_05 wrote:I see no issue with this. Its a good move and about time to see a country do something about this. If you want to watch it then you just ask your ISP to unblock it for you. If you too embarassed or ashamed to do that, then maybe you shouldnt be watching porn in the first place. Once you start with that, you're on the slippery slope to book burning.
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