100,000 say NO... to FFV


100,000 say NO... to FFV

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kapow! wrote:
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Yes! The ethnic reason is why the clubs aren't supported well. Not the fact that:

They play in summer clashing with every major sport

No advertising from the FFV

Second tier league

Not as rich as the A-league clubs because they built their clubs from scratch to represent their footballing landscape at the time.

Clubs have been robbed by the FFV a lot of money through fines.

I could go on but I'm on my phone.


I've seen you go on before probably best you don't, none of your points explain why the diversity is reduced compared to what we see at other levels of the game.


What the hell are you crapping on about or are you afraid of da effnik clubs too?


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It's not like you can't get a game at another club or just support another club.


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TheSelectFew wrote:
kapow! wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Yes! The ethnic reason is why the clubs aren't supported well. Not the fact that:

They play in summer clashing with every major sport

No advertising from the FFV

Second tier league

Not as rich as the A-league clubs because they built their clubs from scratch to represent their footballing landscape at the time.

Clubs have been robbed by the FFV a lot of money through fines.

I could go on but I'm on my phone.


I've seen you go on before probably best you don't, none of your points explain why the diversity is reduced compared to what we see at other levels of the game.


What the hell are you crapping on about or are you afraid of da effnik clubs too?


You're a waste of space. lol
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General Ashnak wrote:
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Wow kapow! Look at all those monoethnic councils that are holding back the game in Australia! They should all make way for broadbased councils that represent all Australians (who are from approved migrant paths)!


Once the squabbles about ground access and fees are settled you'll have the same centralized system as the other states to compensate for the fact that the clubs didn't get the job done.


You are aware that Tasmania, NSW, SA and QLD all have ethnic origin clubs involved in their NPL competitions right?


so what? Not sure where you got the idea ethnic origin matters. What matters is lack of engaging with the community and poor development.

The VPL is particularly bad at it considering its catchment area, but it's a problem all over.

For example, when john kosmina considers the whole south australia state league worthless to recruit from and doesn’t even bother looking at it you-might-just-have-a-problem-also lol

My original point, which you drifted away from, is the squabbles are just minor details, either way the VPL is still getting same centralised system because it didn’t do was it was supposed to by itself [both the clubs and the FFV].
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kapow! wrote:
General Ashnak wrote:
kapow! wrote:
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Wow kapow! Look at all those monoethnic councils that are holding back the game in Australia! They should all make way for broadbased councils that represent all Australians (who are from approved migrant paths)!


Once the squabbles about ground access and fees are settled you'll have the same centralized system as the other states to compensate for the fact that the clubs didn't get the job done.


You are aware that Tasmania, NSW, SA and QLD all have ethnic origin clubs involved in their NPL competitions right?


so what? Not sure where you got the idea ethnic origin matters. What matters is lack of engaging with the community and poor development.



Ethnically based clubs here are trying to engage with the constituent communities. They are still ethnically based, but are engaging with a more diverse community.

As GA says, ethnically based clubs are part of the NPL in this state. Some are better than others at engaging with the broader football community. Some also offer better development than others.




Edited by Decentric: 14/8/2013 09:49:06 AM
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TheSelectFew wrote:
kapow! wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Yes! The ethnic reason is why the clubs aren't supported well. Not the fact that:

They play in summer clashing with every major sport

No advertising from the FFV

Second tier league

Not as rich as the A-league clubs because they built their clubs from scratch to represent their footballing landscape at the time.

Clubs have been robbed by the FFV a lot of money through fines.

I could go on but I'm on my phone.


I've seen you go on before probably best you don't, none of your points explain why the diversity is reduced compared to what we see at other levels of the game.


What the hell are you crapping on about or are you afraid of da effnik clubs too?


He is.

Hangs in the same posse as Exile, paulc etc etc.

-PB

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They're not trying hard enough if they were there would be little momentum for the NPL. I'm sure the administrators at the FFV play their role in being incompetent also not to leave anyone out lol, but the clubs are the drivers.
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I joined an Ethnic VPL club and thought that they would be really biased towards their specific group, however I have found them to be surprisingly quite moderate. Half of my team is of that specific ethnic group, but the other half is mixed: Anglo, African, South American, Asian.

It was a real surprise but a good one. The outside criticism is unjustified.

I have been involved in 2 ethnic clubs; VPL and State 1, and can speak from experience that they do encourage diversity and achieve it. They have actively weeded out the "old" and opened the doors to everyone.
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saaftasi clubs go beyond the players, but if a club has over 1/2 of a certain background they haven't engaged their local community enough because the interest in the game goes way over the migrant bases now, thus a properly engaging club would reflect that increased diversity [and numbers].
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