SEN report another $9 takeover bid of Heart from SM


SEN report another $9 takeover bid of Heart from SM

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SMFC and proud wrote:
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In a way, i see the value in SMFC buying out the club (ie. facilities, youth system), but I see a number of challenges too in doing so.

The manner in which events have transpired over the years since the 2nd license bid sure has raised a bad taste in many MH supporters mouths, which will be a definite risk in alienating existing fans. By that I mean that many have felt MH has been undermined on numerous occasions, and that has unfortunately seemed to constantly lead back to either SMFC directly or those who appear to speak for them in some way.

I also know of many that will likely walk away ig SMFC did buy the club as they support MH as it is not aligned to an existing club. The SMFC support groups would mainly be just filling in that gap. Building from there is the hard part for any 2nd team against MV. The identity question still remains something of an issue also, however its spun otherwise.

The one thing that makes no sense is that even if SMFC do buy out the licence, if its true that they need to borrow the cash to do so, how does that leave us any better off in a comp that is likely to be line ball financially for some time to come?

Its been the same message for a long time on this issue from me. I just don't see how this ultimately takes us to the next level. It can assist in some ways, but not sure its enough.


South have never undermined anyone. If MH were going ok on and off the field we wouldn't be having this discussion, there wouldn't be any takeover/buyout rumours every few months etc. MH are pretty much a basket case on and off the field so blame the board/football dept who make poor decision after poor decision not an ambitious club like South who just want to be involved in top flight football again.
From my knowledge a group of private businessmen linked to South are willing to put up the cash for any HAL bid, takeover offer etc. It would be a separate entity to the current 'VPL SMFC'. If they want to pay $9 million for a license then good luck to them. I think it's a crazy price but would probably jump on board. I'm realistic enough to understand that SMFC as we currently are(members based) is a massive long shot to ever be considered.


I think you raised there the core issue... There's no guarantee that this move will actual bring a benefit.

As for the way that MH has been run, off the park it has actually been quite solid. Its been talked down by a few (namely a few who have an agenda), but commercial and community engagement wise it has had some success.

Signing Westpac and then re-signing them for an extension was a huge move for instance. Lets take a walk back a few months and remember the rumours that Westpac had decided to not sign up and the club being in crisis prior to that happening. Those posts came from... we all know that one..

Mistakes occur at all clubs and organisations, and unfortunately we are yet to see any real on-field success to drive the club to the next level.

As I stated before, not too sure that we would be any better off with this change.
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I recall Chris asking if Westpac had been re-signed because all was very quiet - but I don't recall anyone saying that they had decided not to sign up. To the best of my knowledge we still don't know how much they are paying to be the main sponsor (whilst there was a fairly specific statement first time up).

On the whole I'd agree with the assessment that commercially they've been well managed - however, I'd question how much freedom the football department has been given to run the football side of the operation. For example, the Aloisi appointment screams PR over football. I find it hard to believe that John Didulica would have recommended Aloisi ahead of Milicic, which implies that the football department's opinions were passed over.

If the football department is being over-ruled on coaching matters, one could question whether they are also being over-ruled on playing matters - was Kewell hired because Aloisi or Didulica wanted him, or because the business guys did. Ditto Mifsud and the Maltese population quotes from Munn. Ditto Engelaar - was he signed for what he can do, or because he's a former Dutch international who looks good on paper? Was Fred signed for his playing ability or because Melbournites would remember him from a great year at Victory?

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Benjamin wrote:
I recall Chris asking if Westpac had been re-signed because all was very quiet - but I don't recall anyone saying that they had decided not to sign up. To the best of my knowledge we still don't know how much they are paying to be the main sponsor (whilst there was a fairly specific statement first time up).


I seem to recall a very different way it played out, but all good.

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On the whole I'd agree with the assessment that commercially they've been well managed - however, I'd question how much freedom the football department has been given to run the football side of the operation. For example, the Aloisi appointment screams PR over football. I find it hard to believe that John Didulica would have recommended Aloisi ahead of Milicic, which implies that the football department's opinions were passed over.


fair call. Who knows what the rationale was there. In the end its been a very, very bad decision, but its not the first club to make such calls.

It has unfortunately hit us harder due to the time in our clubs development.

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If the football department is being over-ruled on coaching matters, one could question whether they are also being over-ruled on playing matters - was Kewell hired because Aloisi or Didulica wanted him, or because the business guys did. Ditto Mifsud and the Maltese population quotes from Munn. Ditto Engelaar - was he signed for what he can do, or because he's a former Dutch international who looks good on paper? Was Fred signed for his playing ability or because Melbournites would remember him from a great year at Victory?


I still think the HK and Engelaar signings were solid. The latter did a freak injury and HK well, lets just say has been a frustrating experience for all involved.

Mifsud was an interesting call, but he may well be an asset once HK starts feeding him to ball. Can only hope.


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South Melbourne will never be in the A-League.

Get over yourselves.

WOLLONGONG WOLVES FOR A-LEAGUE EXPANSION!

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they are growing every year and have a derby to prop them up

why would they panic?

within 3 years non derby crowds are probably averaging 10k+ which is par since it will bring season averages to well over 13k which is pretty good
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Heart_fan wrote:


Mifsud was an interesting call, but he may well be an asset once HK starts feeding him to ball. Can only hope.



HK feeding him the ball won't make any difference. If MifsDUD had hit the back of the net with only 1 in three of his golden chances this would all be a pointless exercise, Heart would be mid table and Aloisi would look ten years younger.


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