★The Official 'FFA Cup' Thread |Matchday 1 results in OP!★


★The Official 'FFA Cup' Thread |Matchday 1 results in OP!★

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Decentric - 3 Aug 2017 8:54 AM
Eldar - 2 Aug 2017 8:07 PM

That is how I saw it too.

CCM controlled the game, but inexplicably took their foot off the pedal when they equalised.They had about 80% of the possession.


I did have a few concerns though.

Golec looked awkward on the ball compared to the accepted standard of a HAL CB.

 Harriej , who looked very classy, wasn't match fit. He ran out of gas too quickly. 

McGing made some awful mistakes in midfield, including misreading a pass that led to the 3rd Blacktown goal. He could be a better CB option than Golec, who may be a reasonable defensive LB.

Josh Rosh isn't quite good enough for a HAL LB anymore.

Bingham lacked goal instincts for a central striker.

Being knocked out of the FFA Cup means less games under match pressure in the next few months.





On the positives.

One can see the benefits of the Okon possession game inculcated in the young CCM players. 

When Harriej and  the other DM import, are  fit, plus the new striker, and Baro, CCM have experience and quality all over the pitch to guide their precocious and talented tyros.

Da Silva oozed class in his cameo.

Hoole looked good on the ball, despite no end product.

 CCM dominated possession, but inexperienced players made a few costly mistakes.

With so many young players, CCM will only improve over the course of this season. Last season they had few experienced quality players on the pitch to guide them. This year, if the imports are as good as their CVs indicate they should be, less mistakes will be made and there should  be more leadership over the pitch.

Any CCM fan worried about  last night, the players would've had heavy legs from intense preseason training. If the game last night occurred at the start of the HAL  season and CCM took their chances, they'd blow Blacktown away.

I'm tipping CCM to at least finish in the top six, as long as the new import striker is clinical enough around goals.



Watching the game also, they played more fluidly than they did last season, the No.6 dutch fella could be a really good player, along with De Silva they will be better at controlling games, my concern is at the back and up front.

The wingers still play quite high, but they're given more freedom to cut side also, i actually enjoyed their style of football.

My only beef was why did Okon not react to bring on De Silva and Buhagiar earlier, also he lacks humbleness when he comes to losing matches.
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RedKat - 3 Aug 2017 9:50 AM
Is the magic of cup happening too often?

Nah.
Currently the wins to the A-League side sit at ~85%. That's probably about right.
http://www.aleaguestats.com/ALeagueStats_34FFACupStats.html#Cupsets






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Have a seeded regionalized rd 64 (w/ WP in SA)

That gives 10 AL v NPL or lower games. Then have either an open draw or seed all AL teams to play lower divisions again.

Going the seeded r64/32 way you can end up with 20 AL v NPL games by the end of r32 if all win r64. These are the games the fans want to see and the players want to play.
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RedKat - 3 Aug 2017 9:50 AM
Is the magic of cup happening too often?

Probably just enough really. A good argument for having a completely open draw from the round of 32 is being presented. It's the second year running that 50% of the NPL v HAL matches in the first round went to the NPL side, I think more should get a crack at the HAL teams in those early rounds to have more of a chance of the upset.
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It is for mariners ... bum bum
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Is the magic of cup happening too often?

ARNIE= LEGEND

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Shanagar - 3 Aug 2017 8:59 AM
scott21 - 3 Aug 2017 4:52 AM

Sometimes you'd like to hear just a little bit of credit given to the winning team.
Doesn't always have to be much, but just a little bit, otherwise you start sounding like a complete goose.
Okon taking lessons from some of the great Williams' sisters defeat speeches.


I agree with Okon's summation of the game, but he should have been more gracious in defeat and praised Blacktown's game plan.
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TheSelectFew - 3 Aug 2017 8:02 AM
RyanM - 3 Aug 2017 6:34 AM

Because the precedent has been set. Dont need some beggers from NZ piggy backing from our success and development. 

TSF, just give the Kiwi bashing a rest.

It is becoming tiresome.
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scott21 - 3 Aug 2017 4:52 AM

"We were excellent," a calm Okon said.

"They had a plan to sit back and take whatever chances came their way, from us losing the ball or trying to force things.

"We hadn't conceded up until tonight, that's the real disappointing thing about the three goals we gave away.

"We did enough in the 90 minutes to win the game quite comfortably so that's an area we'll definitely be working on.

"The positive thing for us is there's a few gears we can step it up."

Okon felt the unfamiliar synthetic surface at Lilys Football Centre had levelled the contest, and insisted the Mariners were a class above their NPL vanquishers.

"There's a massive gap, we saw that with the way we controlled the game and moved the ball," he said.

"They struggled to get near us, and their three goals weren't scored because they outplayed us or did something - they were goals we gave them.

"If we had not played the way we did then maybe there would be some concern, but I don't think we did too much wrong."

FFA Cup exit won't derail Mariners: Okon - Football

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Sometimes you'd like to hear just a little bit of credit given to the winning team.
Doesn't always have to be much, but just a little bit, otherwise you start sounding like a complete goose.
Okon taking lessons from some of the great Williams' sisters defeat speeches.


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Eldar - 2 Aug 2017 8:07 PM
Good game so far, football a lot better on a good track.

Wouldn't be too worried if a Mariners fan, they have some quality to come in.

That is how I saw it too.

CCM controlled the game, but inexplicably took their foot off the pedal when they equalised.They had about 80% of the possession.


I did have a few concerns though.

Golec looked awkward on the ball compared to the accepted standard of a HAL CB.

 Harriej , who looked very classy, wasn't match fit. He ran out of gas too quickly. 

McGing made some awful mistakes in midfield, including misreading a pass that led to the 3rd Blacktown goal. He could be a better CB option than Golec, who may be a reasonable defensive LB.

Josh Rosh isn't quite good enough for a HAL LB anymore.

Bingham lacked goal instincts for a central striker.

Being knocked out of the FFA Cup means less games under match pressure in the next few months.





On the positives.

One can see the benefits of the Okon possession game inculcated in the young CCM players. 

When Harriej and  the other DM import, are  fit, plus the new striker, and Baro, CCM have experience and quality all over the pitch to guide their precocious and talented tyros.

Da Silva oozed class in his cameo.

Hoole looked good on the ball, despite no end product.

 CCM dominated possession, but inexperienced players made a few costly mistakes.

With so many young players, CCM will only improve over the course of this season. Last season they had few experienced quality players on the pitch to guide them. This year, if the imports are as good as their CVs indicate they should be, less mistakes will be made and there should  be more leadership over the pitch.

Any CCM fan worried about  last night, the players would've had heavy legs from intense preseason training. If the game last night occurred at the start of the HAL  season and CCM took their chances, they'd blow Blacktown away.

I'm tipping CCM to at least finish in the top six, as long as the new import striker is clinical enough around goals.



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Another great night with another A League team copping a slap!!




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TheSelectFew - 3 Aug 2017 8:02 AM
RyanM - 3 Aug 2017 6:34 AM

Because the precedent has been set. Dont need some beggers from NZ piggy backing from our success and development. 

There's no begging here, we spend millions on the A-League. And as you say, the precedent has been set - there is no argument anymore.

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nomates - 2 Aug 2017 9:17 PM
Anyone put money on Blacktown?

I put every cent I had left in my betting account (a grand total of $32.50) on Blacktown at $4.00. 
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melbourne_terrace - 2 Aug 2017 9:55 PM

There's no argument there - people were talking about teams from other confederations playing in cup tournaments and I merely gave an example which has nothing to do with the A-League, FFA, or Phoenix. I don't know why people on here are so keen to follow what others - think for yourself and stop worrying about what others are doing.

What's wrong with setting precedents?

Because the precedent has been set. Dont need some beggers from NZ piggy backing from our success and development. 



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melbourne_terrace - 2 Aug 2017 9:55 PM
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This is an extremely weak argument however because Martinique, Guiana, Guadelope and Reunion are integral parts of the French Republic. They are no different to any other part of France métropolitaine.

The rest are overseas territories and unless New Zealand wants to become another state of Australia, then this strange situation can't be used to justify their presence. 
 

There's no argument there - people were talking about teams from other confederations playing in cup tournaments and I merely gave an example which has nothing to do with the A-League, FFA, or Phoenix. I don't know why people on here are so keen to follow what others - think for yourself and stop worrying about what others are doing.

What's wrong with setting precedents?

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scott21 - 3 Aug 2017 4:52 AM

"We were excellent," a calm Okon said.

"They had a plan to sit back and take whatever chances came their way, from us losing the ball or trying to force things.

"We hadn't conceded up until tonight, that's the real disappointing thing about the three goals we gave away.

"We did enough in the 90 minutes to win the game quite comfortably so that's an area we'll definitely be working on.

"The positive thing for us is there's a few gears we can step it up."

Okon felt the unfamiliar synthetic surface at Lilys Football Centre had levelled the contest, and insisted the Mariners were a class above their NPL vanquishers.

"There's a massive gap, we saw that with the way we controlled the game and moved the ball," he said.

"They struggled to get near us, and their three goals weren't scored because they outplayed us or did something - they were goals we gave them.

"If we had not played the way we did then maybe there would be some concern, but I don't think we did too much wrong."

FFA Cup exit won't derail Mariners: Okon - Football

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Salty, Bitter and delusional, a great combo for the wooden spoon. 
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petszk - 2 Aug 2017 9:31 PM

So youre claiming youre not discussing confederations when youre discussing non euro confederations playing in euro based cups as a point of rebuttal about nz playing in our cup? Ok. 

I think its time to stop derailing the magic thread with bs about nz now. Theyre knocked out thank fk and parity is restored to the universe..for now.

Wellington was knocked out, not Aotearoa.

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"We were excellent," a calm Okon said.

"They had a plan to sit back and take whatever chances came their way, from us losing the ball or trying to force things.

"We hadn't conceded up until tonight, that's the real disappointing thing about the three goals we gave away.

"We did enough in the 90 minutes to win the game quite comfortably so that's an area we'll definitely be working on.

"The positive thing for us is there's a few gears we can step it up."

Okon felt the unfamiliar synthetic surface at Lilys Football Centre had levelled the contest, and insisted the Mariners were a class above their NPL vanquishers.

"There's a massive gap, we saw that with the way we controlled the game and moved the ball," he said.

"They struggled to get near us, and their three goals weren't scored because they outplayed us or did something - they were goals we gave them.

"If we had not played the way we did then maybe there would be some concern, but I don't think we did too much wrong."

FFA Cup exit won't derail Mariners: Okon - Football

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Well done Blacktown, with out Mallia, Da Cunha and Choi they did well. They didn't dominate the game like Heidelberg did last night however I feel Mariners were harder to break down. Great to see another win for an NPL club.
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bohemia - 2 Aug 2017 9:56 PM
Rovers got 2680 in Darwin and Gold Coast City 1033 at Mallawa already looking a like for like replacement with GCU

Rovers drawing 2 700 in Darwin is okay.
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By the scoreline were they outplayed in every facet D ? or lethal with their chances as well.

APIA outplayed Olympia in nearly every facet of the game.

In 1v1 tackling and muscle on muscle 1v1s Olympia's big boys won easily though.

It wasn't just a case of APIA converting the chances they created. They dominated territory and possession.
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FFA Cup round of 16 format will be same as last year as follows:
1 all A League v A League match-up
4 all Member Federation v Member Federation match-ups
3 Member Federation v A League match-ups

FFA Cup quarter final format will be same as last year as follows (providing that 0 member federation clubs knock off A-League clubs):
1 all A League v A League match-up
1 all Member Federation v Member Federation match-ups
2 Member Federation v A League match-ups
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Rovers got 2680 in Darwin and Gold Coast City 1033 at Mallawa already looking a like for like replacement with GCU
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petszk - 2 Aug 2017 9:03 PM
RyanM - 2 Aug 2017 7:05 PM

Interesting - I didn't know that.
In fact, after looking it up, the French cup features teams from Oceania (Tahiti & New Caledonia), Africa (Reunion & Mayotte) and North America (French Guiana, Martinique & Guadelope).
So Wellington Phoenix aren't the only example of a team playing in a different confederation.


This is an extremely weak argument however because Martinique, Guiana, Guadelope and Reunion are integral parts of the French Republic. They are no different to any other part of France métropolitaine.

The rest are overseas territories and unless New Zealand wants to become another state of Australia, then this strange situation can't be used to justify their presence. 
 


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So far, teams from Sydney are killing it, with 6/7 going through. 

Wanderers through.
SFC through.
Hakoah through.
Blacktown through.
Bankstown through.
APIA through.

So far the only Sydney team that lost, lost to another Sydney team (Hills to Hakoah).

Still waiting on Syd United to play next week.  Could have 7 out of 16 in the next round. 
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nomates - 2 Aug 2017 9:17 PM
Anyone put money on Blacktown?

Yeah got em at $3.75

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Waz - 2 Aug 2017 9:46 PM
Good on ya Fox Sports .... magic of the cup missing two goals. Dickheads.

Yeah but less Meredith is a positive.

Insert Gertjan Verbeek gifs here

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