Climate change: Fact or Fiction?


Climate change: Fact or Fiction?

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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
serious question to the disciples of the global climate warming alarmist cult:

do you fear the devastating effects of global warming or not?


Yes very much so, in fact I'm contemplating taking my own life because the fear is really getting to me.


so by your sarcasm i can assume that deep down you dont actually believe in it but cannot admit that much
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ricecrackers wrote:
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serious question to the disciples of the global climate warming alarmist cult:

do you fear the devastating effects of global warming or not?


Yes very much so, in fact I'm contemplating taking my own life because the fear is really getting to me.


so by your sarcasm i can assume that deep down you dont actually believe in it but cannot admit that much


I was being serious, why would you think I would joke about that?

Someone as switched on as you would know that people are killing themselves because the fear of global warming is to much. I will become just another statistic.
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Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
Roar #1 wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
serious question to the disciples of the global climate warming alarmist cult:

do you fear the devastating effects of global warming or not?


Yes very much so, in fact I'm contemplating taking my own life because the fear is really getting to me.


so by your sarcasm i can assume that deep down you dont actually believe in it but cannot admit that much


I was being serious, why would you think I would joke about that?

Someone as switched on as you would know that people are killing themselves because the fear of global warming is to much. I will become just another statistic.


have you made provisions?
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I kept hearing how "cloimate change" had created the really warm May that we had.

So do I assume if has nothing to do with me freezing my tits off today?
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The interesting thing about humans and "facts" is that we automatically seek out those "facts" that supplement our "beliefs". Also when we are shown "facts" that go against our "beliefs" this only goes to strengthen out "beliefs" further than if we were shown "facts" that support our "beliefs".


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thupercoach wrote:
I kept hearing how "cloimate change" had created the really warm May that we had.

So do I assume if has nothing to do with me freezing my tits off today?


Top quality deductive reasoning, commonly employed by intellectual heavyweights such as Barnaby Joyce.
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Not so much climate change but the costs associated with not changing what we rely on for energy:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/6/24/policy-politics/abbotts-alan-jones-script-has-just-been-destroyed

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notorganic wrote:
thupercoach wrote:
I kept hearing how "cloimate change" had created the really warm May that we had.

So do I assume if has nothing to do with me freezing my tits off today?


Top quality deductive reasoning, commonly employed by intellectual heavyweights such as Barnaby Joyce.
And a whole bunch of two bit "envoironmentalists" each time the temperature goes over 30. "It's warm this May. Cloimate Change!!".

It's idiotic reasoning, which is why I'm pointing it out.
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Cold weather when it's expected to be cold doesn't mean there's no climate change. That's like putting your hand in the fridge and concluding that there's no climate change. It's cold when and where it's meant to be cold. "It's cold when it's meant to be cold. Where's your climate change now" is retarded logic.

Unseasonably warm weather when it's meant to be cold however is reason for concern.

But really, the be-all and end-all of this argument comes down to some pretty simple logic: Worst case scenario if climate change proponents are wrong and it isn't real is that humans start living a more environmentally friendly existence. We breathe cleaner air and live more sustainably with our rapidly growing population. If Climate change opponents are wrong, we destroy the planet and everyone faces the very real possibility of mass extinction. So which side do you want to be on?
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Climate Change officially proven false

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-12/brisbane-records-coldest-morning-103-years/5591890
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afromanGT wrote:
Cold weather when it's expected to be cold doesn't mean there's no climate change. That's like putting your hand in the fridge and concluding that there's no climate change. It's cold when and where it's meant to be cold. "It's cold when it's meant to be cold. Where's your climate change now" is retarded logic.

Unseasonably warm weather when it's meant to be cold however is reason for concern.

But really, the be-all and end-all of this argument comes down to some pretty simple logic: Worst case scenario if climate change proponents are wrong and it isn't real is that humans start living a more environmentally friendly existence. We breathe cleaner air and live more sustainably with our rapidly growing population. If Climate change opponents are wrong, we destroy the planet and everyone faces the very real possibility of mass extinction. So which side do you want to be on?


you're completely fanatical about this issue
you'll construct any fantasy to fit with your doctrine on this
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RedKat wrote:
Typical ricecrackers. Insulting others with not a single bit of credible evidence besides his stringent convictions.


thats exactly what you're doing
i've provided mountains of evidence in this thread. actual evidence, not media propaganda.

...you provided links to outdated papers which you didnt even read, have since been proven wrong and werent even relevant


Edited by ricecrackers: 12/7/2014 05:10:02 PM
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I posted a paper from the MetOffice and you call that a dodgy article
pointless continuing, I'm certain I'm more qualified in the area of science than you are

...and please stop it with the 97 people thing. for starters that statistic is simply wrong to begin with and secondly consensus is not science.

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What qualifications do you have?

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paulbagzFC wrote:
What qualifications do you have?

-PB

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paulbagzFC wrote:
What qualifications do you have?

-PB


the work experience kid in middle of nowhere townsville who calls himself an IT manager is questioning my credentials
lol
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blah blah blah out of context
the data says no warming in 15 years

they try to talk it down with words because they're in on the scam. you cannot ignore the data however, you just cannot ignore it
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this whole thing has an analog with the population scare of the 1950's to 1970's
they said we were overpopulated then and the world would end

and yet here we are with double the population and lifestyle has never been better

the same people are now trying again using climate change scare to curb population growth
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ricecrackers wrote:
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What qualifications do you have?

-PB


the work experience kid in middle of nowhere townsville who calls himself an IT manager is questioning my credentials
lol


Even if that were true, now is your chance to show me your expert credentials and prove your intellectual authority on this matter.

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yawn @ RedKat

its anthropogenic not anthropmorphic :oops:

seriously just quit it on this subject
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ricecrackers wrote:
yawn @ RedKat

its anthropogenic not anthropmorphic :oops:

seriously just quit it on this subject


Still waiting.

Don't keep me long baby.

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RedKat wrote:
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yawn @ RedKat

its anthropogenic not anthropmorphic :oops:

seriously just quit it on this subject


So youve got nothing to say so you point out a typo I made early in the morning.

You're exceptionally close minded so youve just resorted to insults because youve got nothing left to say. Ive picked your only 'evidence' apart showing the body still sides on my side of the debate.



its not a typo, you used completely the wrong word

why would I want to continue a discussion with someone who clearly has no idea...
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please just :-$
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ricecrackers wrote:
please just :-$


Please just reply to me.

<3333333333333333

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RedKat wrote:
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please just :-$


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ill take that as a victory not that I really needed the confirmation.

paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
please just :-$


Please just reply to me.

<3333333333333333

-PB


Hi paul. Ill reply to you.


Hey Red, what's shaking.

I do enjoy your CC posts, very well written with sources attached.

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RedKat wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
please just :-$


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ill take that as a victory not that I really needed the confirmation.

paulbagzFC wrote:
ricecrackers wrote:
please just :-$


Please just reply to me.

<3333333333333333

-PB


Hi paul. Ill reply to you.


your boundless delusion may have you believe otherwise but you defeat yourself

I suppose you're one of those that believe in peak oil too or not?
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RedKat wrote:
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RedKat wrote:
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yawn @ RedKat

its anthropogenic not anthropmorphic :oops:

seriously just quit it on this subject


So youve got nothing to say so you point out a typo I made early in the morning.

You're exceptionally close minded so youve just resorted to insults because youve got nothing left to say. Ive picked your only 'evidence' apart showing the body still sides on my side of the debate.



its not a typo, you used completely the wrong word

why would I want to continue a discussion with someone who clearly has no idea...


Yes I made a mistake at 1AM clearly thinking of a different work. That doesnt invalidate anything Ive said. I could go through your posts and probably find a mistake as well but I dont need to sidetrack the discussion because Im not the one with no evidence. Ive lost count of the time Ive given a lot of evidence and youve ignored it and found something else to argue about. Clearly a sign of the close minded views refusing to accept the evidence.

The fact of the matter though is you cant provide sufficient evidence because there simply isnt sufficient scientific evidence for your side of the argument (and if it was that would be the consensus of the scientific community and myself).


sorry, but demonstrating that you dont know what you're talking about invalidates everything you said on this topic.

not that i'm a bit surprised.
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#globalwarming

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[size=8]Brisbane records coldest morning in 103 years[/size]
Updated Sun 13 Jul 2014, 12:22am AEST



PHOTO: Barbed wire is covered in ice after a cold morning in Stanthorpe. (Instagram: @goodbeermatt)

Brisbane has recorded its coldest morning in 103 years, with low temperatures also being felt across the rest of Queensland.

The weather bureau says the state's capital dropped to 2.6 degrees Celsius just before 7:00am (AEST) on Saturday.

Bureau spokeswoman Michelle Berry said it has been exceptionally cold and temperatures are still dropping.

"[It's been] the coldest morning since 1911, so it's quite a record there," she said.

Clermont in central Queensland had record-low temperatures on Friday, but broke records again on Saturday morning with the temperature dropping down to -4.5C.

Five coldest cities in Queensland

Oakey: -6.1
Warwick: -5.9
Kingaroy: -5.7
Applethorpe: -5.4
Dalby: -5.0
Blackall recorded lows of -2.0C, Roma saw temperatures of -6.6C, and Oakey was down to -6.1C.

Further south in the state, Kingaroy reached -5.7C, Dalby dropped to -5.0C, Applethorpe was -5.4C, and Warwick recorded -5.9C.

Ms Berry said dry and clear conditions, as well as light winds, have caused temperatures to plummet but said mornings should start to warm up next week.

100 years of temperatures


Use our interactive map to explore 100 years of annual average temperatures across Australia.
"I would keep the doonas at the ready in the morning," she said.

"I don't think we'll see temperatures drop as much as we saw [on Saturday] morning but we will see temperatures well and truly below their July averages.

"But then we'll actually see a change in air mass and with that increasing cloud we'll see those minimum temperatures on the rise."

In New South Wales, Glen Innes has recorded temperatures of -11.3C, while Thredbo recorded a low of -4.1C.

Victoria's Mount Baw Baw saw temperatures drop to -3.6C.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-12/brisbane-records-coldest-morning-103-years/5591890
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Thought it was called Climate Change and not Global Warming?

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not Global Warming? so its Global Cooling now?

ok we'll go with that then
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