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pv4
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notorganic wrote:I don't get the big deal. Missed an easy free kick and walked around doing nothing for the rest of the game.
I guess when you play has-beens, you get pedestrians. Will get shown up against quality opposition rather than barely scraping past sub-par teams like England. This post is just the worst.
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u4486662
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Decentric wrote:Pr1mo wrote:Decentric wrote:belgium1 wrote:Decentric wrote:Erebus wrote:Pirlo looks "lazy" because he is always shuffling/jogging :lol
But if you watch him off the ball, he is always moving, shuffling/jogging and sees the game 3 moves ahead of everyone else. When the ball is won by the team, he is always nearby to collect it. He is always dictating play with and without the ball.
Next time Italy play, pay attention to Pirlo when the ball is no where near him and/or Italy are defending.
The only criticism I've ever had for him is that he is always so reluctant to shoot. He gets into good positions outside the box but always opts to pass it instead of having a crack. All players have strengths and weaknesses. I've listed Pirlo's strengths. I can also add his phenomenal first touch. He can stop the ball dead, or turn the ball away from his opponent to shield the ball superbly. However, his weaknesses are: 1. Doesn't make many intercepts from good reading of play in Ball Possession Opposition. 2. Does not win many tackles, or even contest them. 3. Doesn't beat players in 1v1 attacking actions on the ground. 4. Doesn't cause turnovers and break up attacks, like our Jedda and Millsy do. 5. Does not appear to have much pace to run down and dispossess opposition players as they run towards Italy's defensive goal, or recover if beaten, like Jason Culina did. It is important to analyse players over a broad spectrum of facets of play, rather than put them on pedestals. Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 01:57:00 PM The way you describe him, looks like you are also talking about bresciano.. Both careers took different paths, pirlo still at a top club but bresciano cashing in. Did bresciano had the same potential if he would have choosen to continue his career In italy? Look I think Pirlo is a fantastic player. That is why I started the thread. Without doubt, he is one of the best players in the world. All I'm trying to do is elucidate that all players have weaknesses, even Messi, Robben and C. Ronaldo. There is no complete player. A coach would be even more pleased if Pirlo was a more effective ball winner, with more pace, to augment his fantastic pre-existing assets.When Bresc has been effective in 2 and 3 of the five aforementioned weaknesses I've elucidated in Pirlo. There has been a lot of response to this thread I've started on Pirlo, with a degree of idolatry that lacks objectivity. I thought England's Sterling was equally as effective for the Poms with a different skill set and started a thread on him. Nobody has responded. Is this because he is a relative unknown? Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 05:16:25 PM A coach that asks a player like Pirlo to do that role would be a fool. Like has been mentioned above, Pirlo's role is not to breakdown play and pressure the opposition. He is there to ensure Italy control possession and start attacks. A guy like Vince Grella could do both. Patrick Viera may be another, a better player than Grella. Admittedly, Grella was nowhere near as good at starting attacks as Pirlo, who is peerless. Pirloless? :d
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Decentric
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u4486662 wrote:Decentric wrote:
A guy like Vince Grella could do both.
Patrick Viera may be another, a better player than Grella.
Admittedly, Grella was nowhere near as good at starting attacks as Pirlo, who is peerless.
Pirloless? :d :d :d :d =d>
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stefcep
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pv4 wrote:notorganic wrote:I don't get the big deal. Missed an easy free kick and walked around doing nothing for the rest of the game.
I guess when you play has-beens, you get pedestrians. Will get shown up against quality opposition rather than barely scraping past sub-par teams like England. This post is just the worst. Its a troll. I feel privileged for having the opportunity to see him live at the 2000 Olympics. I've just watched the England game for the third time just to watch him. He knows all the options before he even gets the ball, and always- always dammit- picks the right one. What's more he is constantly moving to offer a clear receiving lane. This is all about what is going between his ears. Pirlo's brain works on a different level to anyone else's. Yes, there is no perfect player. But whereas the modern-day play makers like Ozil and Iniesta play out wide Pirlo owns the middle of the pitch. He as as close to perfect a deep lying creative mid you'll see.
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Carlito
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Pirlo overated? guy is a freak , i remember reading something in world soccer saying Pirlo is one paced,one legged, cant defend etc etc but you'll will find a place for him in your team . One of the best deep lying playmakers ever
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Decentric wrote:Erebus wrote:Pirlo looks "lazy" because he is always shuffling/jogging :lol
But if you watch him off the ball, he is always moving, shuffling/jogging and sees the game 3 moves ahead of everyone else. When the ball is won by the team, he is always nearby to collect it. He is always dictating play with and without the ball.
Next time Italy play, pay attention to Pirlo when the ball is no where near him and/or Italy are defending.
The only criticism I've ever had for him is that he is always so reluctant to shoot. He gets into good positions outside the box but always opts to pass it instead of having a crack. All players have strengths and weaknesses. I've listed Pirlo's strengths. I can also add his phenomenal first touch. He can stop the ball dead, or turn the ball away from his opponent to shield the ball superbly. However, his weaknesses are: 1. Doesn't make many intercepts from good reading of play in Ball Possession Opposition. That is what the other midfielders are for, he is the playmaker 2. Does not win many tackles, or even contest them. See above3. Doesn't beat players in 1v1 attacking actions on the ground. He is not a winger or an attacking midfielder, he is there to set up the play4. Doesn't cause turnovers and break up attacks, like our Jedda and Millsy do. You didn't actually compare them two to Pirlo did you #-o . 5. Does not appear to have much pace to run down and dispossess opposition players as they run towards Italy's defensive goal, or recover if beaten, like Jason Culina did. Once again , the other midfielders jobsAll of those points are really redundant since they are not his job. Edited by Decentric: 16/6/2014 01:57:00 PM
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Erebus
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MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Pirlo overated? guy is a freak , i remember reading something in world soccer saying Pirlo is one paced,one legged, cant defend etc etc but you'll will find a place for him in your team . One of the best deep lying playmakers ever And I still :lol: at Allegri for stating that Pirlo didn't fit into his plans/system at AC Milan and let his contract expire. Juve signed Pirlo on a free. nekminnit Juve win 3 titles in a row :cool: #-o :lol: :lol: Thanks Allegri. Best signing ever.
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Carlito
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Erebus wrote:MvFCArsenal16.8 wrote:Pirlo overated? guy is a freak , i remember reading something in world soccer saying Pirlo is one paced,one legged, cant defend etc etc but you'll will find a place for him in your team . One of the best deep lying playmakers ever And I still :lol: at Allegri for stating that Pirlo didn't fit into his plans/system at AC Milan and let his contract expire. Juve signed Pirlo on a free. nekminnit Juve win 3 titles in a row :cool: #-o :lol: :lol: Thanks Allegri. Best signing ever. I kinda know why ac Milan got rid of some of their older players , but letting Andrea pirlo go was the biggest fuck ups ever . You can see it at Juve and with the National team he makes them tick .
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