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Note: I have never said I have wanted Trump to win. So before any dickhead jumps down my throat saying ur a racis ect I have said the reality of the situation. -America is sick of the establishment -American media is Republican media and is vastly different to Australian media -Sanders did a lot of damage to Clinton and hence the Sanders of Bust movement did a lot of damage -Obama was very polarising with his policies (Gay marriage, gun restrictions ect.) -Clinton is corrupt -The WikiLeak emails show Clinton for who she really is The rest of what Trump did become irrelevant to Americans after all of this.
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+x+xSBS and ABC are going to cry. Everyone realised they are full of utter shite and should be privatised for the amount of shit they have produced on public dime. Concession speech? What concession speech? I only watch ABC and SBS and am a US political junkie but you are so right. I watched every Planet America and the smugness of Chas and John Barron was so nauseating. The daily news reports apart from Chris Uhlmann were predictable lefty biased crap. Thankfully media watch had a good episode showing the media had failed to report on the actual concerns of the Trump supporters. There is such a disconnect between the Inner city elites and the mainstream voter. Yet these guys are on the public coin but are reporting for a small minority point of view. Anyway they'll all use the same excuses: Bernie could have won, Hillary lost due to racism/sexism, Americans are just dumb idiots. Like Brexit, its the smirking class versus the working class and the working class kicked ass again tonight. Bernie could have won and Americans are still idiots, but Hillary lost because she didn't connect with white working class/blue collar voters, who have historically voted for the Democrats. I, along with many others, underestimated this demographic and the Democratic Party has some very important years ahead of them. How can they recover from this and get the working class back on their side?
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Aikhme
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+x+xSBS and ABC are going to cry. Everyone realised they are full of utter shite and should be privatised for the amount of shit they have produced on public dime. Concession speech? What concession speech? I only watch ABC and SBS and am a US political junkie but you are so right. I watched every Planet America and the smugness of Chas and John Barron was so nauseating. The daily news reports apart from Chris Uhlmann were predictable lefty biased crap. Thankfully media watch had a good episode showing the media had failed to report on the actual concerns of the Trump supporters. There is such a disconnect between the Inner city elites and the mainstream voter. Yet these guys are on the public coin but are reporting for a small minority point of view. Anyway they'll all use the same excuses: Bernie could have won, Hillary lost due to racism/sexism, Americans are just dumb idiots. Like Brexit, its the smirking class versus the working class and the working class kicked ass again tonight. Smirking Class - UP YOURS! lol You're absolutely correct. SBS and ABC are very biased and they were on the piss take. If they were serious, they would have gone to America to speak to voters in order to understand what was driving the average American voter. It was also extremely disrespectful to the American voter with so many labels applied to Trump supporters - they were practically calling them uneducated rednecks. Very smug reporting indeed. I have a great deal of respect for the American people especially in the Republican heartlands because they are very nice people.
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+xNote: I have never said I have wanted Trump to win. So before any dickhead jumps down my throat saying ur a racis ect I have said the reality of the situation. -America is sick of the establishment -American media is Republican media and is vastly different to Australian media -Sanders did a lot of damage to Clinton and hence the Sanders of Bust movement did a lot of damage -Obama was very polarising with his policies (Gay marriage, gun restrictions ect.) -Clinton is corrupt -The WikiLeak emails show Clinton for who she really is The rest of what Trump did become irrelevant to Americans after all of this. Good points. How do the Democrats recover from this and what do you expect from a Trump presidency?
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Will be interesting to see if he can follow through with all of his talk.
It's one thing to say, for example, he'll build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it, and another thing entirely to do it.
Says he'll bring manufacturing back. How exactly? Are Americans happy to pay more for their cars etc.
What will the first country do that gets a tariff slapped on their goods?
There's an ancient Chinese curse that says 'may you live in interesting times'.
Seems these may be interesting times.
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+xWill be interesting to see if he can follow through with all of his talk. It's one thing to say, for example, he'll build a wall and get Mexico to pay for it, and another thing entirely to do it. Says he'll bring manufacturing back. How exactly? Are Americans happy to pay more for their cars etc. What will the first country do that gets a tariff slapped on their goods? There's an ancient Chinese curse that says 'may you live in interesting times'. Seems these may be interesting times. This is pretty much what I was intimating. None of that has anything to do with immigrants or political correctness and is the real issue that these people are rebelling against (even if they believe immigrants and PC is causing it).
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USA v Mexico WCQ in Columbus, Ohio on Friday
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I have to say - having watched a few of Hillary's campaign commercials and speeches recently, I was very worried that she was off message. She simply was not talking about the economy.
She got distracted by Trump's outrageous comments and forgot to try and convince Americans that her presidency would be a net good for them economically. Her ads were ads were mainly focused on ethnic minorities, saying that they could stop Trump, but didn't say why. At no stage did she try to speak to white working class voters who were disenchanted and angry about job losses in their communities.
Trump, on the other hand, was banging on about the dangers of trade and immigration every day.
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+xUSA v Mexico WCQ in Columbus, Ohio on Friday Is Trump going to the game?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xR: 56 senate seats Drumpf by 4 points R: 260 house seats R: 33 governor's. At this point you have to be trolling. There is no logical basis for you to assume that the polls are wrong; and, if they are wrong, no reason to assume they are wrong in Clinton's favour rather than wrong in Drumpf's favour (I.e. if they're off by six points, that might mean this election is a tossup, or it might mean that Clinton actually has a 12 point lead). Essentially, you're ignoring an incredible depth of statistical evidence on the basis of a hunch. That is, simply, a dumb way to make predictions. At the very least, hopefully you'll learn from Clinton's clear victory in two weeks and start accepting that facts matter a lot more than feelings do. Drumpf by 4 starting to look conservative. If he wins it'll be very close - possibly while losing the popular vote. So, even now, you still don't know what you're talking about. USA isn't about the popular vote. it's about the College votes. This. My 4 tip was to win by 4 college votes in a close one. Except the predictions we were doing were using the popular vote? Where have you gone buddy? This looks like a great big UP YOURS! lol The Left PC brigade, nanny staters can get stuffed! So many people would have voted purely to piss off the smug far left. People are getting sick of wankers telling them what they can do, say and think Hopefully there isn't too much destruction (plenty to be concerned about in that space), but it'll be interesting to see what campaigning on dog whistles and then 4 years later people find that being anti-PC and ragging on immigrants doesn't actually improve these "blue collar whites"' situation. it's gonna be an exciting 4 years. America is losing its identity and becoming a racial basket case. they need to shut their borders for their own sake. Now that Trumpy controls Congress, I expect a very productive 4 years barring any Trumpy style stuff ups (hopefully). Trumpy just needs a little fine tuning with regard to Foreign Policy. It seems like the Republicans will control Congress but is that the same thing as Trump controlling Congress?
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Aikhme
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xR: 56 senate seats Drumpf by 4 points R: 260 house seats R: 33 governor's. At this point you have to be trolling. There is no logical basis for you to assume that the polls are wrong; and, if they are wrong, no reason to assume they are wrong in Clinton's favour rather than wrong in Drumpf's favour (I.e. if they're off by six points, that might mean this election is a tossup, or it might mean that Clinton actually has a 12 point lead). Essentially, you're ignoring an incredible depth of statistical evidence on the basis of a hunch. That is, simply, a dumb way to make predictions. At the very least, hopefully you'll learn from Clinton's clear victory in two weeks and start accepting that facts matter a lot more than feelings do. Drumpf by 4 starting to look conservative. If he wins it'll be very close - possibly while losing the popular vote. So, even now, you still don't know what you're talking about. USA isn't about the popular vote. it's about the College votes. This. My 4 tip was to win by 4 college votes in a close one. Except the predictions we were doing were using the popular vote? Where have you gone buddy? This looks like a great big UP YOURS! lol The Left PC brigade, nanny staters can get stuffed! So many people would have voted purely to piss off the smug far left. People are getting sick of wankers telling them what they can do, say and think Hopefully there isn't too much destruction (plenty to be concerned about in that space), but it'll be interesting to see what campaigning on dog whistles and then 4 years later people find that being anti-PC and ragging on immigrants doesn't actually improve these "blue collar whites"' situation. it's gonna be an exciting 4 years. America is losing its identity and becoming a racial basket case. they need to shut their borders for their own sake. Now that Trumpy controls Congress, I expect a very productive 4 years barring any Trumpy style stuff ups (hopefully). Trumpy just needs a little fine tuning with regard to Foreign Policy. It seems like the Republicans will control Congress but is that the same thing as Trump controlling Congress? I don't know how the system works there. I think Senators can vote anyway they like and cross the floor however in most instances trump will be able to get stuff done. No obstructionist shamozzle like we have in Australia.
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Trey Gowdy for Pres in 2020 -PB
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+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy
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+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on?
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TheSelectFew
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+x+xNote: I have never said I have wanted Trump to win. So before any dickhead jumps down my throat saying ur a racis ect I have said the reality of the situation. -America is sick of the establishment -American media is Republican media and is vastly different to Australian media -Sanders did a lot of damage to Clinton and hence the Sanders of Bust movement did a lot of damage -Obama was very polarising with his policies (Gay marriage, gun restrictions ect.) -Clinton is corrupt -The WikiLeak emails show Clinton for who she really is The rest of what Trump did become irrelevant to Americans after all of this. Good points. How do the Democrats recover from this and what do you expect from a Trump presidency? I reckon Trump will be pretty shite. I think however with Russia he will foster better relations than what Clinton would have. He wont build a wall. He will backflip on that Muslim bullshit too. Also fwiw I called Brexit.
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+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy hahahahahahahahahahah EAD
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+x+x+xNote: I have never said I have wanted Trump to win. So before any dickhead jumps down my throat saying ur a racis ect I have said the reality of the situation. -America is sick of the establishment -American media is Republican media and is vastly different to Australian media -Sanders did a lot of damage to Clinton and hence the Sanders of Bust movement did a lot of damage -Obama was very polarising with his policies (Gay marriage, gun restrictions ect.) -Clinton is corrupt -The WikiLeak emails show Clinton for who she really is The rest of what Trump did become irrelevant to Americans after all of this. Good points. How do the Democrats recover from this and what do you expect from a Trump presidency? I reckon Trump will be pretty shite. I think however with Russia he will foster better relations than what Clinton would have. He wont build a wall. He will backflip on that Muslim bullshit too. Also fwiw I called Brexit. At least you're honest.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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well, well, well..............
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/YKeYbEOSqYcWell fuck me. I should have listened to Michael Moore.
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Republicans will take control of the senate, confirmed.
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+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day
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So what's the timeline on Hillary in shackles? -PB
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TheSelectFew
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+x+x+x+xNote: I have never said I have wanted Trump to win. So before any dickhead jumps down my throat saying ur a racis ect I have said the reality of the situation. -America is sick of the establishment -American media is Republican media and is vastly different to Australian media -Sanders did a lot of damage to Clinton and hence the Sanders of Bust movement did a lot of damage -Obama was very polarising with his policies (Gay marriage, gun restrictions ect.) -Clinton is corrupt -The WikiLeak emails show Clinton for who she really is The rest of what Trump did become irrelevant to Americans after all of this. Good points. How do the Democrats recover from this and what do you expect from a Trump presidency? I reckon Trump will be pretty shite. I think however with Russia he will foster better relations than what Clinton would have. He wont build a wall. He will backflip on that Muslim bullshit too. Also fwiw I called Brexit. At least you're honest. It won't be as bad as everyone is making it out to be. This is all knee jerk reaction.
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+x+x+xIt's looking very close with only a couple days to go, Trump has got this! :laugh:
this is going to be a blood bath on Trump.... Nope, Trump will be Americas hero against the corrupt Clinton. :D:hehe::laugh::w00t::laugh::hehe::D:P:w00t::laugh::hehe::):rolleyes::cool::smooooth::smooooth:
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Bahaha all these media outlets that are going on about "NOBODY SAW THIS COMING" What a load of shit. Maybe for the people who only polled in certain areas or produced pro-Clinton shit time after time. -PB
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Also lol @ DNC, they reap what they so for fucking over Bernie. If this was Bernie vs Trump, you'd prolly think Bernie would rake it in. -PB
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