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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:43 AM
rusty - 9 Jan 2021 4:28 PM

Imagine a free market economy that has private companies that set their own rules with little government interference?  Maybe a company like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and google.  A private platform if you will. Sounds like a capitalists/Republicans/Liberal party wet dream.

What's that?  They need government regulation?!

What?  

Hypocritical bunch of cunce all of you.

No that would be a laissez faire, libertarian wet dream. Capitalism invites some regulation to ensure free and fair competition, break up monopolies and prevent large firms from colluding with political parties to stifle democracy.
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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:47 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:28 AM

The biggest fantasy of all Rus?

'Trickle down economics.'

If pure, unregulated, unadulterated capitalism was such a roaring success then you wouldn't be seeing 85 million people voting for something different.

Except they didn't.  They voted to destroy the middle class, having enslaved the working class.

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Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 12:53 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:37 AM

I guarantee fuckstick you don't.

So now you have abandoned "socialism" altogether and now call it "socialist ideas".  You are such fucking predictable leftard hypocrite.

How about you shut up and if don't like capitalist Australia why don't you fuck off to Cuba or any other failed place with "socialist ideas" ?
 
Why would I leave Australia when I can vote to keep pieces of shit like you out of government and get my tax cuts, my negative gearing, my franking credits and enjoy watching you eating shit in opposition- again.

Yeah I do.

Who abandoned socialism?  Never once claimed we should be socialist.  Perhaps comprehension is not your strong suit.

I like capitalist Australia with our strong socialist ideals.  I look forward to a more equitable society in the future.  More egalitarian, more equitable and more caring. 

I hope being the richest man in the graveyard makes you very happy.


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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:47 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:28 AM

The biggest fantasy of all Rus?

'Trickle down economics.'

If pure, unregulated, unadulterated capitalism was such a roaring success then you wouldn't be seeing 85 million people voting for something different.

Trickle down capitalist countries can actually survive and do well. Unlike socialist countries which always end up banana republics controlled by sadistic tinpot dictators.

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rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:55 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:43 AM

No that would be a laissez faire, libertarian wet dream. Capitalism invites some regulation to ensure free and fair competition, break up monopolies and prevent large firms from colluding with political parties to stifle democracy.

Wow.  Sounds a lot like Labour party policies.  Are you K Rudd in disguise?


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Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 12:56 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:47 AM

Except they didn't.  They voted to destroy the middle class, having enslaved the working class.

And you know this how?


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rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:58 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:47 AM

Trickle down capitalist countries can actually survive and do well. Unlike socialist countries which always end up banana republics controlled by sadistic tinpot dictators.

Your views on high taxing Scandinavian countries?


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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:54 AM
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It's obvious you can't use the 'interwebs' based on the above abortion of logic.

Just because a country has 'socialist' in their name doesn't make it so.  Were the Nazis socialists because you know  'Socialist German Workers' Party'?

Were the east Germans democratic because they were the German democratic republic?  How about the democratic republic of North Korea?

So how about you remove your head from your arse and learn to google instead of making yourself look foolish.  A skill you have in spades.

Some countries adopt the monikers 'socialist', 'democratic', 'republic' etc to give the illusion of being controlled or representative of the people. In the case of Soviet Union, they identified as genuinely socialist. Socialism and communism are essentially the same thing, or least different stages of the same idea/goal. Even self styled socialists like Bernie Sanders are commies at heart, they know that as long as religion, family, currency, trade and competition exist, there will never be true equality.

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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:54 AM
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It's obvious you can't use the 'interwebs' based on the above abortion of logic.

Just because a country has 'socialist' in their name doesn't make it so.  Were the Nazis socialists because you know  'Socialist German Workers' Party'?

Were the east Germans democratic because they were the German democratic republic?  How about the democratic republic of North Korea?

So how about you remove your head from your arse and learn to google instead of making yourself look foolish.  A skill you have in spades.

Its worse than I thought. Oh man you are so blind.

That's how leftist societies work. Don't you fucking geddit?  SOCIALISM is a LIE you idiot.   Its only after they fail that those places have their name changed.  Not during. The current bullshit is Democratic Socialism.  Its all the same corrupt, oppressive lie based on stealing someone else's property.

I'm willing to bet you haven't lived a single day under a self-proclaimed socialist regime.  I'll show your post to my Eithopean work mate.  We'll enjoy laughing at your stupidity.

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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:01 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:58 AM

Your views on high taxing Scandinavian countries?

Like Sweden's 15% corporate tax?
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Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 1:09 AM
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Its worse than I thought. Oh man you are so blind.

That's how leftist societies work. Don't you fucking geddit?  SOCIALISM is a LIE you idiot.   Its only after they fail that those places have their name changed.  Not during. The current bullshit is Democratic Socialism.  Its all the same corrupt, oppressive lie based on stealing someone else's property.

I'm willing to bet you haven't lived a single day under a self-proclaimed socialist regime.  I'll show your post to my Eithopean work mate.  We'll enjoy laughing at your stupidity.

I showed your posts to a 6 year old and he said ' Enzo should point on the dolly to where the transgender, lefty activist hurt him so badly.'

'why is he so mad?'

I told him he doesn't like democracy and people voting against what he thinks is the only correct way of thinking.

He was confused but accepted the fact that some people are just cockheads.





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rusty - 10 Jan 2021 1:10 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:01 AM

Like Sweden's 15% corporate tax?

Nice cherry pick.  60% income tax in Sweden for top earners.  How about you try and debate honestly for once?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

I realise this is a wiki link so it may not be acceptable to you.



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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:01 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 12:58 AM

Your views on high taxing Scandinavian countries?


You mean monoculture, homogenous small population resource rich nation States?  Norway that built its wealth on fossil fuels?  Or Denmark that has worse wealth inequality than Australia? 

Read this as clearly you can't do it on your own:

"First, it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffreydorfman/2018/07/08/sorry-bernie-bros-but-nordic-countries-are-not-socialist/?sh=454e45b674ad

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I'll leave you two to mutually masturbate yourselves whilst I get some shut eye.

Try and be a more honest debater Rus.  You do debase yourself sometimes.


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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:59 AM
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Wow.  Sounds a lot like Labour party policies.  Are you K Rudd in disguise?

They are not labour party policies. You're confusing Republicanism with libertarianism. Go do more research.
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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:15 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 1:09 AM

I showed your posts to a 6 year old and he said ' Enzo should point on the dolly to where the transgender, lefty activist hurt him so badly.'

'why is he so mad?'

I told him he doesn't like democracy and people voting against what he thinks is the only correct way of thinking.

He was confused but accepted the fact that some people are just cockheads.




Its clear as the scrotum under you chin that you have no lived experiences about anything you are discussing.  I bet you have not lived one single second under a socialist regime?  Correct?

Whilst at the same time you loathe everything about the socio-political system and class you owe everything to.  Your personal profile is so predictable and utterly sad and helpless: New money white male capitalist who now loathes anyone that looks like him.

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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:18 AM
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Nice cherry pick.  60% income tax in Sweden for top earners.  How about you try and debate honestly for once?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

I realise this is a wiki link so it may not be acceptable to you.

Debating honestly would mean acknowledging the fact that Sweden has one of the lowest corporate taxes in the world, therefore completely obliterates your idea that it is somehow representative of a socialist country. Dickhead. :laugh:

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Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 12:58 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 12:53 AM

Yeah I do.

Who abandoned socialism?  Never once claimed we should be socialist.  Perhaps comprehension is not your strong suit.

I like capitalist Australia with our strong socialist ideals.  I look forward to a more equitable society in the future.  More egalitarian, more equitable and more caring. 

I hope being the richest man in the graveyard makes you very happy.

You abandoned socialism. 

Australia doesn't have "socialist ideals".  We have a welfare system funded by capitalist profits.

People like you are not interested in being more egalitarian, more equitable and more caring, unless they fit the identity profile that you agree with. Colored, gay, gender-confused.  Everyone else has white male privilege.

40 years my region was classed high socio-economic disadvantage.    Last year it was again.  Unlike pretentious hypocrites like you, I went back to my roots after I got my "Uni edoocation"- Melbourne's West and have served then for 30 plus years. Don't preach to me about a more egalitarian, equitable and caring society..

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rusty - 10 Jan 2021 1:31 AM
Munrubenmuz - 10 Jan 2021 1:18 AM

Debating honestly would mean acknowledging the fact that Sweden has one of the lowest corporate taxes in the world, therefore completely obliterates your idea that it is somehow representative of a socialist country. Dickhead. :laugh:

22%, more than the US or the EU average rate, and not even in the top 60 lowest. They also have the highest carbon tax in the world.

Obliteration, lol.
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paladisious - 10 Jan 2021 5:31 AM
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22%, more than the US or the EU average rate, and not even in the top 60 lowest. They also have the highest carbon tax in the world.

Obliteration, lol.

sweden like the other Nordics are small population monoculture resource rich nations.

A generous welfare state under a capitalist economy works for their demographics and size but is now also  under pressure because it  doesn't work when you have large population with multiple cultures with differing social and cultural and economic identities that need to be integrated, as the swedes are finding out..

80% of Swedens energy is from nuclear or hydro.  They have 8 nuclear reactors and the natural terrain for hydro. A high carbon tax rate is immaterial when virtually all energy is carbon-free any.way

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paladisious - 10 Jan 2021 5:31 AM

sweden like the other Nordics are small population monoculture resource rich nations.

A generous welfare state under a capitalist economy works for their demographics and size but is now also  under pressure because it  doesn't work when you have large population with multiple cultures with differing social and cultural and economic identities that need to be integrated, as the swedes are finding out..

80% of Swedens energy is from nuclear or hydro.  They have 8 nuclear reactors and the natural terrain for hydro. A high carbon tax rate is immaterial when virtually all energy is carbon-free any.way

Won't address the first part as your argument is based on a subjective metric.

So you're saying the high carbon tax and the fact that they use non carbon omitting power are total coincidences? Looks like the way to go, for me, wish we'd do the same.
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paladisious - 10 Jan 2021 9:37 AM
Enzo Bearzot - 10 Jan 2021 7:58 AM

Won't address the first part as your argument is based on a subjective metric.

So you're saying the high carbon tax and the fact that they use non carbon omitting power are total coincidences? Looks like the way to go, for me, wish we'd do the same.

Its actually not subjective.  Natural resources are finite. If you have fewer people, each gets more.  They thn each have a higher quality of life.  If they all are culturally and socially homogenous, they are more likely to agree with whatever policy government may want to implement and abide by it. 

As for the Swedes high carbon tax its easy to do that knowing you won't be paying much because you have 8 nuclear power stations and a natural geographical terrain for damming rivers and water ways already that provide 80% of your power. Its Carbon Tax Virtue Signalling, nothing more.

On a per capita basis Australia would need twenty nuclear power stations.  Where do you think we should put them?  Which rivers should we dam up?

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paladisious - 10 Jan 2021 5:31 AM
rusty - 10 Jan 2021 1:31 AM

22%, more than the US or the EU average rate, and not even in the top 60 lowest. They also have the highest carbon tax in the world.

Obliteration, lol.

I can’t believe you’re trying to argue that a corporate tax rate of 22% is somehow akin to socialism 😆

What a retard 😂😄



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LOL. 


70 year old white guy

 versus


THOUSANDS of young fit strong athletic mostly black dudes decked up in paramilitary gear, bullet proof vests, automatic weapons and carrying chests of ammo.



You're being a murder apologist.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s

How Enzo and co are downplaying this is beyond disgraceful. 

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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Jan 2021 3:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s

How Enzo and co are downplaying this is beyond disgraceful. 

Rubbish they were “mostly peaceful”. The use of force by law enforcement was excessive and proof of racism against white conservatives.

#conservativelivesmatter
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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Jan 2021 3:49 PM

Rubbish they were “mostly peaceful”. The use of force by law enforcement was excessive and proof of racism against white conservatives.

#conservativelivesmatter

There it is. More juvenile deflecting. Still in the denial phase.

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sydneyfc1987 - 10 Jan 2021 3:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhjRXO72v1s

How Enzo and co are downplaying this is beyond disgraceful. 

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You're being a murder apologist.


You just went full retard.  Never go full retard.

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Oh and this guy as there too:

https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/known-violent-blm-antifa-member-caught-on-film-inside-capitol/

MSNBC: "Death toll stands at 5"......but doesn't divulge one was unarmed white woman shot WH staff, 3 died of medical causes, one death of a policeman..tragic that anyone died, but tell the truth...

Lots of "possible, maybe could have happened"

And now can you post a revisionist video by MSNBC on BLM protests. 

One to get you started:

https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/blm-mob-beat-white-man-unconscious-after-making-him-crash-truck/

You have 6 months of footage to to get through.  We can wait.

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https://www.breitbart.com/news/trump-supporters-counter-protesters-clash-in-san-diego/

Another round of Antifa harassing, abusing, assaulting and using pepper spray against Trump supporters for simply exercising their democratic right to protest. Not like anyone on the left gives a shit though.

It's amazing that outside the consevative silos of Fox , Sky and fringe right sites like Breitbart, there is such little discussion about antifa, BLM and the radical lefts violent, fascist esque and deplorable, criminal behaviour. It's almost like Trump voters don't have any rights.

This is all going to end very badly. Dunno whether it will be politicians, media or tech ceo's, someone is going to pay with blood.
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4 Years Ago by rusty
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