Great job Mark. I thought we had lost you to communism with some of your comments, but its great to see that you havent lost your marbles yet.

Rusty now sounding like a wifebeater blaming his partner for his violent actions

"You drove me to this lefties!!!"

If that wife was constantly punching you in the testicles then you would be entitled to hit back in self defence

False equivalence.  

An equivalent one would be more like a wife that abuses her partner and he/she/it retaliates in kind.

You blokes are great.  Who knew Australia had unhinged, raging man babies like they do in America.

This is the typical leftist response when they’ve lost the argument, to resort to petty, childish insults. 

Here's the full speech, with a transcript: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/annotated-trump-speech-jan-6-capitol/

Having seen it I am in no doubt that it directly lead to the riot. Using the word "peacefully" once in an hour-long speech doesn't cut it.

More importantly, not doing anything to stop them until 2:38pm local time, over an hour after the Capitol was breached at 1:30pm (and even then it was just "stay peaceful"), not telling them to go home until almost three hours after it started with his hilarious video at 4:17pm (in which the first half was dedicated to repeating his election fraud claims, and told the rioters "we love you, you're very special"), and not unequivocally denouncing the rioters and the violence until the evening after (in a speech he definitely didn't write) makes him culpable, in my view.

Congress cannot invoke the 25th, that's the Vice President and Cabinet's job. 

Let's also not forget Guliani's "trial by combat" comments at the same rally.
No incitement at all lol.

There's no doubt that there'll be more right-wing violence on Inauguration Day with the FBI reporting of armed protests planned at all state capital buildings as well as Washington DC. I'd be amazed if the day ends without more deaths. We'll see how Trump reacts to that, although I expect his aides would have some arse covering prepared in advance after last time.

that would be why Pence was mentioned, you know, him being the VP and all, but thanks for your emlightening contribution

ok so now that you have nothing you want to shift to 'impeach' a private citizen employed by Trump?

so its Trumps fault that people protest and there is violence, like you know it was Obamas fault when there were fires and violence at Trumps inauguration?

Just to inform you, you know the claim that BLM was mostly peaceful?  it comes from some research that claimed 93% of BLM protests were peaceful. even if true, that 7% amounts to Two Hundred and twenty different locations, not incidents, locations where violent protests occurred.

Trumps supporters have another 219 locations of violence to go to make it even....

I'm not sure the best way to say this, but it felt necessary to say out loud, so here it goes regardless. 

I have banned rusty's profile for an unacceptable thread he/she made which has now been removed. 

Our best move going forward is not to go further into it all. Thanks for understanding. 

Good riddance.

-PB

Just a couple of questions.
If his profile is banned, does that mean he can’t read/comment?
What was the title of the inappropriate thread?
Did you warn him first or just ban?

He can read but not comment
The title is also inappropriate so it won't be repeated
He has received a number of warnings

Where did I say that? 

Obama immediately invited Trump to the white house following the election, thereby acknowledging Trump as his democratically elected successor long before Trump was inaugurated. 

Trump has done the exact opposite to this at every single opportunity.

But you know all this, you just elect to ignore it.

oh ok I should have more accurately written:

whatabbout Guiliani

Before and for every day for 4 years after the invitation the Democrats refused to acknowledge Trumps Presidency.  Even calling him The Occupant, not the President

What goes around comes around.

you specifically mentioned Obama and now you are shifting the goalposts.  Shameless. 

You know two wrongs dont right yeah. Trump and the repubs aren't children .

Not at all. 

 It was you introduced a different irrelevant argument and I responded to that irrelevant argument.  Irrelevant because Trump's non-attendance has nothing to do with the protests to come and everything to do with the treatment the Democrats gave him every single day for the past 4 years.

As such it follow if its Trumps fault for the Biden inauguration protests, its Obama's fault for the violence during Trumps.

Oh  now you wanna act like adults..not  for eg when Pelosi was doing things like tearing up the State of the Union speech for the cameras..

Ripping up a copy of a speech, ripping up a democracy, totally equivalent.

This seems to be where we are at loggerheads. 

I don't think anyone is saying that the 7% of the violent BLM protests are acceptable - at least not on this forum. When we say the Capitol Riot was violent and unacceptable, Trump supporters simply say, "but BLM protests were violent" Yes, but neither is acceptable. 

This is also the other crazy thing. Pence was setup as the fall guy as well. The Rioters were chanting "Hang Mike Pence". It's madness.

Article 14 seems to be a rather elegant solution.

An actual lawyer explaining the legalities of incitement in the US and whether Trump's actions were impeachable or not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwqAInN9HWI&ab_channel=LegalEagle