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+xWe should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more. Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up. It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second. India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us. Drumpf's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Drumpf wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system. If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet. Yes pretty much this. I have concerns about their interference in our domestic affairs, it's happening a lot now but you'd be naive to think that the US aren't doing it also. It's very complex but Trump's election is a big opportunity for China.
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We should be learning mandarin. It's the most spoken language in our part of the world. And yes, we do live in Asia. We all watch the US election, but these days what the President of China does matters more.
Just remember this - more than half the world's population lives in our immediate north and north west. In fact that's always been true. They fell behind for 200 years during the Industrial revolution and age of colonialism, but they have now caught up.
It doesn't matter how many racist Hansonites there are in our country. China is our biggest trading partner. japan is second.
India, China, Japan, Indonesia and south-east asia are growing and will be paying our wages for the next fifty years whether we like it or not. A peaceful and prosperous Asia means a peaceful and prosperous Australia. An Asia without peace and security is terrible for us.
Trump's election is going to force a massive rethink of our foreign policy. If America led by Trump wants to blow up the Asian economy to restore their global hegemony, that's not in our economic or national security interests. The ANZUS alliance is a relic of a time when we feared Japanese militarism, and then communism. The only reason we hold onto the US alliance is that we fear that China's rise may not be peaceful, or that they will want to interfere in our political system.
If we can trade with China while retaining our democratic political system and security, we'll be sweet.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]+x[quote]wow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising. [/quote]it not really funny 真的不滑稽.其实真的很严肃. Unfortunately some people don't understand how precarious diplomatic relations are at the moment around the world.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x[quote]wow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising. it not really funny
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Trump will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense I agree ... all those countries have starting moving towards 2% as they now see the threat from Russia,,,,,,but even if they got to 2%, those countries can't defender themself with out USA or with out creating a single European army , and no body in USA, UK or Australia wants that, because we know who will end up in control of a single European army
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West- 中国别要打西方的国家. 外交将给予他们巨大的力量。习主席明白。 Really need to start practising.
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+x+x+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination? Never misunderestimate the American people! If Obama can survive being the first African American as President for two terms, I think Trump will be fine.
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Clinton thought she had it in the bag :laugh:, she must be rock bottom now.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Doesn't matter what he said. he can't do that, atleast i don't think he can. he won't build a wall either. When was the last time you saw a politician do everything they say? lol anyome else, I would agree.....point is, we don't know....I hope it was just all bullshit talk to get the votes I could be wrong, but a lot of it would have been bullshit talk. If it isn't then Trump will be the first politician to keep to his words in human history. lol
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+x+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination? Never misunderestimate the American people!
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+x+xSo much bullshit in this thread It's been like that since 2nd Jan 2015 when this thread was started, why change now? Exactly
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+xThe inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening. What are you trying to say, Assassination?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Trump then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Trump win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Trump I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Trump I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Trump not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Trump was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Trump but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Trump is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Trump VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Trump going to act,...let us hope, Trump just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Trump has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Trump to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Trump doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Trumps does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Trump does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Trump has said, that what he will do Doesn't matter what he said. he can't do that, atleast i don't think he can. he won't build a wall either. When was the last time you saw a politician do everything they say? lol anyome else, I would agree.....point is, we don't know....I hope it was just all bullshit talk to get the votes
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The only good thing about today is the memes.
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A lot of people are slamming Trump, but did Mrs. Clinton help Kevin find the hotel lobby?
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh: Sorry! i'm racist! the only language I will be learning is German! Sig heil! China kann sich nicht leisten, Krieg mit West-
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war. 南海只是战役。不是战争。 Better start practising. :laugh:
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+x+xmy final take...Trump going to get fucking smashed. ...the idea the Trump can shit on women, Shit on black, shit on Mexicans , have a shit ground organization that getting fucking killed by HRC and Dem ground organization , and be a dumb old white guy and win, no fucking way to watch forget watching Florida or NC, Trump has lost those states (and election) it about how far Trump get smashed and how fuck the republican party become because of Trump the states to watch are Ohio and Iowa Georgia and Arizona Watch to see how close Georgia and Arizona become blue states HAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 
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+xmy final take...Trump going to get fucking smashed. ...the idea the Trump can shit on women, Shit on black, shit on Mexicans , have a shit ground organization that getting fucking killed by HRC and Dem ground organization , and be a dumb old white guy and win, no fucking way to watch forget watching Florida or NC, Trump has lost those states (and election) it about how far Trump get smashed and how fuck the republican party become because of Trump the states to watch are Ohio and Iowa Georgia and Arizona Watch to see how close Georgia and Arizona become blue states HAHHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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The inauguration of President Donald Trump with occur on the 20th of January 2017 unless something happens in between now and then to stop it happening.
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh: practice what? Do you support the violation of UNCLOS where a big country can just take over the EEZ of smaller states? Freedom of navigation is important, otherwise, the world is headed for war.
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+x+xOh come on, Malcolm Turnbull. Trump shares literally none of the values you just mentioned. Not international order, not free trade, not democracy and the separation of powers, not fighting discrimination. What a tosspot. What else is he going to say, Turnbull is on his way out anyway, he has done nothing since he came in. Yup, I'd be surprised if Mal saw out his term. -PB
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+xOh come on, Malcolm Turnbull. Trump shares literally none of the values you just mentioned. Not international order, not free trade, not democracy and the separation of powers, not fighting discrimination. What a tosspot. What else is he going to say, Turnbull is on his way out anyway, he has done nothing since he came in.
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Oh come on, Malcolm Turnbull. Trump shares literally none of the values you just mentioned. Not international order, not free trade, not democracy and the separation of powers, not fighting discrimination. What a tosspot.
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Wow... quite incredible. One of the most significant political upsets of our time. Say what you will about Trump but the Americans have overwhelmingly voted to reject the status quo. As an outsider following the Wikileaks over the past few months the level of corruption in the Democratic party was staggering. I'm sure the Republicans aren't squeaky clean either but Trump at least is an outsider himself, and so he's the hammer with which the people have chosen to bludgeon the establishment. I'm not huge on either candidate but I strongly disagree with the TPP, so in that respect I'm happy that Trump won.
Nice victory speech by Trump too. Kept it simple and showed respect for his defeated opponent.
I'm sure Sanders and his supporters are feeling very hard done by as well. The cards were stacked against them by the DNC, and that almost certainly contributed to their own downfall.
Anyway - it's pretty clear that this is a culmination of a number of social and economic factors in the US, and I can't say that I've followed them closely enough to have very strong opinions, but I wish the USA (and us) good luck.
Edit: Just remembered USA v Mexico World Cup qualifier next week... gonna be spicy :laugh:
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+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+x+xwow. i'm in shock I now lose less on Drumpf then Clinton, but I lose no money matter who wins Adrtho FFS this counter punching denialism is just what trump does. Deny reality that you are wrong and attack back saying you won. Will you ever admit you got it massively wrong??? I lost 23k....I should have Green out when HRC was $1.10 early in voting today, but got greedy OMG! Did you lose 23K of your own money or is that the winnings you were banking on? we call it red 23k......so lost 23k on a Drumpf win losing money suck, being wrong suck, but I get over it fast and move on to next event Drumpf I don't immigration, build a fucking wall , and shoot every Mexican that try to cross I don't care about Free Trade, close your boarder and put up tariff I don't care if the world go into another recession because of Drumpf I don't care about the environment, kill all the trees, mine all the national parks I don't care about gun control, kill every black guy you see In fact, I care about all those things, but we can get over a recession ,Australia and USA will not die because of those things but what make me so fucking shit scared about, is Drumpf not supporting NATO anymore, and if USA no longer supports NATO , it means ANZUS is dead, and if ANZUS dead, it means it a very, very scary time in Australia....the only hope is , Drumpf was full of shit and just said shit to get elected or the system of Government get a hold of Drumpf but today, it a very very scary day I don't think Drumpf is going to stop supporting NATO or ANZUS. But Australia has a lot less to worry about than Europe does. Russia can't invade Australia. we are too far and they need a lot of troops and a way of moving them and logistically supporting them. There is too much of a Deep state in America - Pentagon Russia can't invade Australia, but they can the Baltic (which is party of the EU) if you have never read the back ground of what happen before the falklands war, you would never know the USA was going to support the UK, the USA was going to stay neutrality, but it wasn't ontill the VP Bush was meeting Australia PM Malcolm Fraser, the Bush understand that the USA not supporting the NATO country now, how can Australia know they will support ANZUS it not about what will happen, it about what could happen We Know Drumpf VP Mike Pence supports NATO and is anti Russia, but we don't know how Drumpf going to act,...let us hope, Drumpf just wants to glory and lets Mike Pence run the white house The UK didn't need any help to wrap up The Falklands. Russia would be crazy to invade a NATO member but I still wouldn't put this past Putin. Which is why Drumpf has to be careful about his Foreign Policy. The US Deep state won't allow Drumpf to forego their International Influence in Europe and Asia Pacific. It's dangerous times, but let's just see what happens. I firmly believe that the presidency is a bit of a figurehead when it comes to these kind of things. Russia will not be crazy, if Drumpf doesn't do anything about it USA will do something about it. Article 5 NATO. rules , laws. agreements don't mater, if Drumpfs does support Article 5 ......this is my point, Article 5 doesn't mean shit, if Drumpf does support it They will support it. If they don't then NATO is obsolete and some European countries might fall Russia. yes....and Drumpf has said, that what he will do Bare minimum Drumpf will want EU nations to spend more on Defense and pay their own way. Countries like germany are only spending 1.5 % of gdp on defense Maybe not EU nations initially but it will be interesting to watch China's sphere of influence grow as a result of this policy. Drumpf is going to make Australia spend more on defence as well, if we still want ANZUS. And it is a fair call by USA too. Too often everyone has been taking the piss out of America expecting Americans to fund everyone's National Security. 四年后我们都要说普通话 Better start practicing :laugh:
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+x+xWhat do you people think of the Trans Pacific Partnership? Not sure what to think about it. I had a lecturer specialising on US history who abhorred it because she claimed multinational corporations had far more input than elected governments. It's a load of tripe lol, gives up the power of the people for the power of corporate greed. -PB Yeah it's maybe the only positive out of the whole thing.
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We need a Trump thread, this gon be daily lolz
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