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So when is Trump going to "pivot"?
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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paulbagzFC
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+xSo when is Trump going to "pivot"? When you stop taking insight from Roddit. -PB
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Gayfish
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+x+xSo when is Trump going to "pivot"? When you stop taking insight from Roddit. -PB Rolf
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+xI know Trump supporters love a good conspiracy theory, so here goes: Trump doesn't want to win the election, so now he's just laying the groundwork to launch a media organisation (Trump News?) to compete with Fox News once the campaign is over. Trump sees a ready-made media market to tap into and profit from:1. He has repeatedly noted the fact that he's boosted TV ratings for other networks through the primary debates, news coverage and the RNC - while complaining that he hasn't profited at all from that viewership. 2. He has millions of loyal followers who not only distrust the mainstream media but also resent the right-wing media establishment (i.e. Fox News, National Review etc.). 3. He has clashed with that establishment (especially Fox News, including Carlson, Kelly et al.) and complained about their treatment of him during the primaries. Trump's priority now is to take advantage of that business opportunity:1. He knows that he's almost certainly going to lose, and recently he has publicly contemplated that likelihood.2. His focus, rather than on winning, is on building a team for Trump News. 3. Steve Bannon, who is now leading Trump's campaign, is a highly successful media executive who made Breitbart (alt-right, nationalist, populist, very pro-Trump) the powerful figure that it now is on the American Right. 4. Roger Ailes, recently departed CEO from Fox News and key to that channel's immense success, has also joined the campaign as a key adviser to Trump, 5. Bannon wants to steer the campaign back towards Trump's original brash style with a heavy emphasis on nationalism and populism - a strategy that caters to Trump's base (and thus the people who'll tune into Trump News) but would obviously only make his prospects for election even worse. Trump has no intention of winning - all he wants is to double down on the same old bullshit his devoted supporters love so that he can cash in on millions of TV viewers once the election is over. And so it begins...
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salmonfc
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Cheeto Benito's new campaign manager has changed her mind and said that she doesn't want Trump to release his tax returns as "this audit is a serious matter". Sure...
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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Jong Gabe
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[don't need that kind of language - or that particular visual image] Edit by Mod.
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salmonfc
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Trump is up by five points in Pennsylvania... according to a poll conducted by a gas and oil consulting firm. In Canada.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+x+xTrump is up by five points in Pennsylvania... according to a poll conducted by a gas and oil consulting firm. In Canada. I'm worried your autism is getting out of hand. This addiction to anti-Trump subreddits is starting to concern me. Seek help. A the father of two children with Aspergers, I'd appreciate you not implying autism as an insult.
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TheDecider
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+x+x+x+xTrump is up by five points in Pennsylvania... according to a poll conducted by a gas and oil consulting firm. In Canada. I'm worried your autism is getting out of hand. This addiction to anti-Trump subreddits is starting to concern me. Seek help. A the father of two children with Aspergers, I'd appreciate you not implying autism as an insult. It wasn't an insult. One of my better friends has aspergers and his addictive personality can lead to real issues. I was merely letting salmon know it may be getting out of hand :( If you're going to act like a c*nt at least own it rather than coming up with primary-school level excuses.
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+x+x+xTrump is up by five points in Pennsylvania... according to a poll conducted by a gas and oil consulting firm. In Canada. I'm worried your autism is getting out of hand. This addiction to anti-Trump subreddits is starting to concern me. Seek help. A the father of two children with Aspergers, I'd appreciate you not implying autism as an insult. i think the number of poster on here calling people retarded is disgraceful
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salmonfc
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Trump's flip flopping regarding illegal immigration. SAD!
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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salmonfc
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Never mind, he's switched back. Trump to CNN on whether he'll deport non-criminal illegal immigrants: "There is a very good chance the answer could be yes."
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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I see your deflection skills are still as sharp as ever.
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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+xNever mind, he's switched back. Trump to CNN on whether he'll deport non-criminal illegal immigrants: "There is a very good chance the answer could be yes." hmmm
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it doesn't matter what Trump say anymore ....he can't win, and everyone is now moving on a Clinton next presidents
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Stuart Varney
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+xit doesn't matter what Trump say anymore ....he can't win, and everyone is now moving on a Clinton next presidents Nothing more needs to be said. /thread
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Nice first posts Stuart :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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wow, 4 days no post
i guess it's over
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Democrats ask the FBI to investigate Trump advisers’ Russia ties Several leading Democratic lawmakers are asking the Federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate senior Trump campaign advisers for collusion in the suspected Russian hacking of American political organizations and election systems. It’s the most serious set of allegations to date about deep connections between the Trump team and the Kremlin, though the case is largely circumstantial.
On Monday, The New York Times broke the story of Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s August 27 letter to FBI Director James Comey asking the bureau to investigate alleged Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, which followed new reports that foreign hackers penetrated two state election databases. In the same letter, without naming them directly, Reid pointed Comey to two specific Trump advisers, each of whom is allegedly connected to Russia, according to Reid and the Clinton campaign.
Reid’s letter implicitly asks Comey to look into the dealings of Roger Stone, the longtime Trump friend who has claimed to be in touch with Wikileaks founder Julian Assange, and Carter Page, a Trump foreign policy advisor who traveled to Moscow in July.
Stone, Assange and Russian state media have all been pushing a conspiracy theory that the hack of the Democratic National Committee was related to the shooting death of 27-year old DNC staffer Seth Rich. There’s no evidence the events are linked. Reid wants the FBI to investigate whether the similar statements are a coincidence or if they are all working together on the leaks.
“The prospect of individuals tied to Trump, Wikileaks and the Russian government coordinating to influence our election raises concerns of the utmost gravity and merits full examination,” Reid wrote, referring to Stone.
Reid also said the FBI should investigate if there were any “complicit intermediaries” between the Russian government and Assange, including “any United States citizen.”
On Tuesday afternoon, four leading House Democrats sent their own letter to Comey calling on him to investigate the Russian ties of Stone, Page, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. “Serious questions have been raised about overt and covert actions by Trump campaign officials on behalf of Russian interests,” they wrote. “It is critical for the American public to know whether those actions may have directly caused or indirectly motivated attacks against Democratic institutions and our fundamental election process.”
In a statement, Clinton campaign spokesman Glen Caplin said the Trump campaign has multiple advisers with deep ties to Russia and the campaign doubled down on Reid’s call for an investigation into Roger Stone’s ties to Wikileaks and the DNC hacks.
“By admitting he’s in contact with Julian Assange through mutual friends, and claiming the Russian front Guccifer 2.0 is the source of hacked documents obtained by WikiLeaks, Roger Stone has raised serious and deeply troubling questions about potential collusion between Trump campaign associates and the Kremlin,” he said. “This alarming red flag is a question that demands answers.”
In an interview today, Stone lashed out at Reid’s call for the FBI to investigate. He said he has no connections with the Russian government and has communicated with Assange through a mutual friend only.
“He’s essentially accusing me of treason. It’s the new McCarthyism,” Stone said. “I have no connections with Russians at all. They call us the conspiracy theorists but they are the ones accusing us of treason.”
Stone said there’s no proof that the Russians did anything related to the DNC hacks because a hacker calling himself “Guccifer 2.0” claimed credit for the hack in June. But there is a growing consensus in the U.S. intelligence community that the DNC hack was orchestrated and perpetrated by the Russian government and forensic evidence suggests that “Guccifer 2.0” is a persona created by the Russian government hackers to try to cover their tracks.
Stone refused to characterize the frequency or nature of his indirect communications with Assange, but said he had no influence over Assange’s actions related to the leaks and was not directly coordinating with Wikileaks. But he called Assange a “freedom fighter” and a “hero” who was “fighting the deep state,” which means taking on the two-party duopoly in Washington.
In the interview, Stone also defended the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, accused Clinton or her allies of murdering at least three other people and said his email, bank, and social media accounts were all hacked last week by unknown assailants. Stone claimed that Assange has the “kryptonite” that will bring down the Clinton campaign, in the form of more leaked information about ties between the Clinton Foundation and the State Department during Clinton’s tenure as Secretary of State.
“I think he has the goods and he will release them at times of his choosing,” he said. “This makes me a conspiracy theorist? No, I’m a conspiracy realist.”
Reid also wrote to Comey that “questions have been raised” about whether a senior Trump adviser with investments in the Russian state energy firm Gazprom met with “high-ranking sanctioned individuals” during a July trip to Moscow. The passage clearly refers to Page, who gave a speech in Moscow in July at the graduation ceremony of the New Economic School that many observers viewed as a rebuttal of U.S. foreign policy.
“Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change,” Page said in the lecture.
Page declined to comment for this article but sources close to the issue told me Reid was briefed last week by a very senior U.S. intelligence official on the suspected Russian political interference and that Reid is particularly interested in Page’s activities while in Russia.
Reid and the Clinton campaign are steadily increasing their focus on the ties between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. In her speech last week on the “alt-right” movement, Clinton focused on the fact that the two men praise each other and she called Putin the “godfather” of a “global brand of extreme nationalism” to which Trump allegedly subscribes.
There’s definitely an overlapping of interests between the Trump camp and the Putin regime, not the least of which is a visceral hatred of Hillary Clinton. However, there’s very little actual hard evidence of real collusion.
Democrats and the Clinton camp are raising the stakes by calling on the FBI to investigate her political opponents for working with an enemy intelligence service. It’s another example of how both sides in this election cycle are pushing conspiracy theories that they cannot prove. . www.washingtonpost.com
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So he visited Mexico but then went to Arizona and went back to being super hardline on immigration hahaha. The flip flop is insane. -PB
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LOL make Mexico great again -PB
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As if that's not enough, he delivered a speech in Mexico with bobby pins in his hair to cover up a bald spot. VAIN! SAD!
For the first time, but certainly not the last, I began to believe that Arsenals moods and fortunes somehow reflected my own. - Hornby
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The Trumptons all ran away. Awww :Wow: The shame of aligning with #loserDonald :laugh:
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Trump, your fired
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+xThe Trumptons all ran away. Awww :Wow: The shame of aligning with #loserDonald :laugh: We're in the detente stage of the campaign at the moment. Also amusing that you adopt the language of a group of Armenian genocide deniers.
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+xThe Trumptons all ran away. Awww :Wow: The shame of aligning with #loserDonald :laugh: It's not over. Five Thirty Eight have trump moving in from an 11% chance of victory to a 29% chance of victory in the past fortnight and recent polls in Ohio, Iowa and Pennsylvania have shown him ahead.... The big question marks will be the presidential debates and whether Wikileaks are holding back some more leaked info from the DNC hassling by the Russian government to drop on the American public right before the election at the time it will have the most devastating impact... I'm not resting easy until Clinton's sworn in and put forward her selection for next Supreme Court Justice....
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+x+xThe Trumptons all ran away. Awww :Wow: The shame of aligning with #loserDonald :laugh: It's not over. Five Thirty Eight have trump moving in from an 11% chance of victory to a 29% chance of victory in the past fortnight and recent polls in Ohio, Iowa and Pennsylvania have shown him ahead.... The big question marks will be the presidential debates and whether Wikileaks are holding back some more leaked info from the DNC hassling by the Russian government to drop on the American public right before the election at the time it will have the most devastating impact... I'm not resting easy until Clinton's sworn in and put forward her selection for next Supreme Court Justice.... it's loser bounce
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+x+x+xThe Trumptons all ran away. Awww :Wow: The shame of aligning with #loserDonald :laugh: It's not over. Five Thirty Eight have trump moving in from an 11% chance of victory to a 29% chance of victory in the past fortnight and recent polls in Ohio, Iowa and Pennsylvania have shown him ahead.... The big question marks will be the presidential debates and whether Wikileaks are holding back some more leaked info from the DNC hassling by the Russian government to drop on the American public right before the election at the time it will have the most devastating impact... I'm not resting easy until Clinton's sworn in and put forward her selection for next Supreme Court Justice.... it's loser bounce For me its just regression to the mean. But if he gets back in touching distance and some new scandal drops on clinton it would be game over for the dems...
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