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RedKat wrote:So what did ricey study? Or what does ricey work as? I don't think ricey would ever deign to reveal that kind of information to us mere mortals. I think mcjules' theory that he's still at school has merit.
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JP wrote: It's no coincidence that the people buying Trump's crap are uneducated. If he actually had a coherent plan to protect the interests of blue collar Americans then it might make more sense. Instead it's basically a constituency of stupid, angry white voters supporting Trump because he's smart enough to say exactly what they want to hear.
The only genuine economic nationalist/protectionist in the race is Sanders.
Edited by JP: 21/2/2016 02:18:43 PM
You mow fucking lawns.
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote: It's no coincidence that the people buying Trump's crap are uneducated. If he actually had a coherent plan to protect the interests of blue collar Americans then it might make more sense. Instead it's basically a constituency of stupid, angry white voters supporting Trump because he's smart enough to say exactly what they want to hear.
The only genuine economic nationalist/protectionist in the race is Sanders.
Edited by JP: 21/2/2016 02:18:43 PM
You mow fucking lawns. And even I can see that you have to be a fucking idiot to believe Trump's bullshit.
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Letters to The Economist wrote: The Republican-controlled Senate will probably deprive Barack Obama of the opportunity to appoint a new Supreme Court justice (“Courting controversy”, February 20th). But the Democrats could have the last word. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders should pledge, prior to the election, that they will appoint Mr Obama to the Supreme Court if they win the presidential election. Mr Obama is brilliant, has the experience of dealing with constitutional-law matters, and he wouldn’t be the first former president to be appointed to the Supreme Court.
PAUL FEINER Greenburgh, New York
It'd never happen (and probably shouldn't) but it'd be worth it for the Republican meltdown alone. Cruz's head would explode.
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JP wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote: It's no coincidence that the people buying Trump's crap are uneducated. If he actually had a coherent plan to protect the interests of blue collar Americans then it might make more sense. Instead it's basically a constituency of stupid, angry white voters supporting Trump because he's smart enough to say exactly what they want to hear.
The only genuine economic nationalist/protectionist in the race is Sanders.
Edited by JP: 21/2/2016 02:18:43 PM
You mow fucking lawns. And even I can see that you have to be a fucking idiot to believe Trump's bullshit. You have to be mentally deficient to believe Hillary's... and Robert Kagan's Robert Kagan for fucks sake #-o what a dumb fuck you are and you think you can judge Americans who dont have college degrees as uneducated when you mow lawns.
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote: It's no coincidence that the people buying Trump's crap are uneducated. If he actually had a coherent plan to protect the interests of blue collar Americans then it might make more sense. Instead it's basically a constituency of stupid, angry white voters supporting Trump because he's smart enough to say exactly what they want to hear.
The only genuine economic nationalist/protectionist in the race is Sanders.
Edited by JP: 21/2/2016 02:18:43 PM
You mow fucking lawns. And even I can see that you have to be a fucking idiot to believe Trump's bullshit. You have to be mentally deficient to believe Hillary's... and Robert Kagan's Robert Kagan for fucks sake #-o what a dumb fuck you are and you think you can judge Americans who dont have college degrees as uneducated when you mow lawns. :-({|= I think we should see other people.
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JP wrote:RedKat wrote:So what did ricey study? Or what does ricey work as? I don't think ricey would ever deign to reveal that kind of information to us mere mortals. I think mcjules' theory that he's still at school has merit. He's a kid that spends far too much time on reddit (not the only one on here) gathering "material" to spout. Personally I think he should focus on his Year 10 as it can lay a good foundation for his year 12 results but getting teens to listen is tough. I'm sure his parents are just relieved that his interest is in lame shit posting and not hard drugs or getting girls pregnant.
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What was that website? Pop something? -PB
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:meanwhile under Obama...  no wonder he's been labeled the food stamp president Ever heard of the Global Financial Crisis?
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AzzaMarch wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:meanwhile under Obama...  no wonder he's been labeled the food stamp president Ever heard of the Global Financial Crisis? That was 9 years ago.
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And?
Europe has still not recovered. The US is only now getting unemployment back to pre-GFC levels.
I think you are underestimating how much the GFC wrecked large parts of the US.
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AzzaMarch wrote:And?
Europe has still not recovered. The US is only now getting unemployment back to pre-GFC levels.
I think you are underestimating how much the GFC wrecked large parts of the US. No I'm not, I'm simply demonstrating how Obama has made it worse and he's had 8 years.
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learn something idiots: Quote: [size=8]TV Pundits Praise Hillary Clinton On Air, Fail to Disclose Financial Ties to Her Campaign[/size]
Lee Fang Feb. 26 2016, 6:21 a.m. Tune into television coverage of the presidential campaign and undoubtedly you will hear from various pundits described as “former campaign strategists” and “political contributors” explaining the latest developments of the race. [size=8]But in many cases, these pundits — though introduced as neutral experts on campaigns or party politics — in fact have financial ties to the candidates they praise on the air.[/size]
[size=8]Several consultants who work at firms retained by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and her affiliated Super PACs appear regularly on the major television networks, frequently touting Clinton.[/size]
A review of pundits on the major networks and cable news also found one prominent pundit who often praised Jeb Bush, without the network revealing her relationship with his campaign.
“Journalism 101 teaches that reporters and TV news hosts must properly identify their sources and analysts,” says Jeff Cohen, an associate professor of journalism at Ithaca College. We reached out to NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC News, but did not hear back.
Stephanie Cutter, for example, has appeared on multiple networks to discuss Clinton, and is typically introduced as a former campaign official for President Barack Obama. What hasn’t been disclosed in any of her appearances reviewed by The Intercept, however, is that the boutique consulting firm she co-founded, Precision Strategies, has been retained by the Clinton campaign for “digital consulting,” according to Federal Election Commission records. Precision Strategies has been paid at least $120,049 from the Clinton campaign since June of last year.
“I think that Hillary Clinton has done everything right. She has run a good campaign. She has outperformed in debates. She’s raised money. She’s got a great ground game,” said Cutter, speaking about the upcoming New Hampshire and Iowa primaries on NBC’s Meet the Press on January 17. She was introduced as “President Obama’s 2012 deputy campaign manager.” Her company’s affiliation with the Clinton campaign was not disclosed.
That was the second time Cutter came on Meet the Press to discuss the campaign. Last June, again identified only as a former Obama campaign manager, Cutter said Clinton had “achieved what she needed to achieve, that she’s a fighter, that she’s going to restore that basic economic bargain.”
Speaking about the Democratic primary on ABC News’ This Week in November, Cutter was introduced as “a supporter of Hillary Clinton” — but still not as a consultant whose firm was being paid by the campaign. When Cutter appeared on CNN to discuss the political impact of the Benghazi committee hearings on Clinton, she was similarly introduced as a Democratic strategist, not as someone whose firm is working for the candidate. Precision Strategies did not respond to a request for comment.
Maria Cardona, a CNN contributor, has appeared on a regular basis over the course the presidential campaign as a reliable voice in support of Clinton. She is also a longtime partner at the Dewey Square Group, a lobbying firm with extensive ties to the Clinton campaign: Two Dewey Square partners serve as fundraisers for the Clinton campaign, each raising at least $100,000; both pro-Clinton Super PACs — Priorities USA Action and Correct the Record — have paid Dewey Square for consulting services during this election; and the co-founding partner of Dewey Square now serves as the chief administrative officer of the Clinton campaign. Notably, Cardona, a DNC “superdelegate” who pledged support for Clinton last year, before any of the primary elections, also contributed the maximum donation to Clinton’s campaign.
Those ties, however, were not revealed to CNN viewers even as Cardona defended Clinton’s use of a private email server, touted Clinton’s support from young voters, praised Clinton’s record on criminal justice reform, and — on two separate occasions — declared that Clinton will “fight for middle-class families.” She has also appeared frequently on the network to analyze the race between Bernie Sanders and Clinton, often castigating the Vermont senator. Cardona appears on CNN, CNN en Español, and CNN International.
The Intercept reviewed transcripts for 50 television segments, from August 2015 through this month, in which Cardona has appeared on CNN to discuss Clinton. In five of those appearances, she was identified or she identified herself as a supporter of Clinton. In another five, she identified herself as someone who advised Clinton during the 2008 campaign. The other 40 appearances presented her as a neutral Democratic strategist or CNN contributor. And in none of her appearances was it disclosed that her firm, the Dewey Square Group, has been retained for consulting work by the Clinton Super PACs or that her colleagues at the firm are working on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Cardona did not respond to a request for comment.
CNBC contributor Sara Fagen, a political operative, has appeared twice on ABC News’s This Week to discuss the state of Republican primaries. Both times, she touted Jeb Bush’s campaign, which ended last week after a long string of dismal failures. In her appearance last August, Fagen said Bush along with Ted Cruz are the only candidates “really focused on a 35-state strategy going forward.” In her second appearance, on November 1, Fagen spoke at length about Bush’s ability to recover from weak performances at the GOP debates, telling host Martha Raddatz: “Martha, he has the most money. He has the most organization. He has the most endorsements, and the thing that he’s had that no one on that stage has, is he’s been through the fire before. And that is incredibly valuable in the long run.”
Fagen also used her position with CNBC to praise Bush’s campaign and criticize his opponents in televised appearances and through a column she writes for the website. In September, Fagen used her CNBC column to predict the “beginning of the end” of Donald Trump’s leading position in the Republican field. In the piece, she argued that Trump’s downfall would likely benefit candidates like Bush, who had collected the most “endorsements from political leaders.” In two different CNBC columns this year, Fagen praised Bush’s debate performances. In one, published on February 8, Fagen said Bush could use the New Hampshire primary, even if he finished second or third, to “catapult into the GOP nomination” and “be a new comeback kid.”
Throughout her punditry over the last year, Fagen has been introduced or bylined as a “Republican strategist” and contributor to CNBC. But FEC records show that the Bush campaign paid Deep Root Analytics, a data-consulting firm co-founded by Fagen, $586,610 in 2015, starting in July. Right to Rise USA, the Bush-supporting Super PAC, paid Deep Root Analytics $273,001, with payments starting in August 2015 and continuing into January 2016. She has also been a “bundler” for the Bush campaign, a term used to describe a fundraiser who helps collect campaign checks.
Hari Sevugan is a principal at 270 Strategies, which was co-founded by Lynda Tran, a CBS News political contributor. 270 Strategies boasts on the homepage of its website of its extensive work for the Clinton campaign. “270 Strategies worked with the Ready for Hillary team to develop their organizing approach and provided guidance on their volunteer engagement program,” the website notes, detailing work on behalf of a pro-Clinton Super PAC that later folded into the larger Clinton campaign. FEC records show that Ready for Hillary paid 270 Strategies $301,621 for consulting work, and later, the Hillary for America campaign paid the firm at least $75,200.
That relationship, however, seems to have gone unmentioned as Sevugan and Tran regularly appeared on MSNBC and CBS News to comment on the Democratic primary. Sevugan went on MSNBC in February to drastically raise the expectations for Bernie Sanders’ campaign, declaring, “Anything short of a victory there in Iowa and New Hampshire is going to be a failure for them.” After the Iowa caucus, Tran made similar arguments, again diminishing Sanders’ surge by claiming that his come-from-behind near-tie was in fact a flop.
“It’s not just about outcomes, it’s also about expectations, and actually I think the expectations were pretty high for Bernie heading into Iowa last night,” Tran said. “What he really needed was to absolutely win.”
Sevugan’s and Tran’s financial ties to the Clinton campaign were not disclosed in these appearances and other similar segments throughout the primary race in recent months. In several segments, their affiliations with 270 Strategies were disclosed, but not the firm’s work for the Clinton campaign.
When I sent a request for comment to CBS News and 270 Strategies last week, neither responded — although a 270 Strategies communications official began following me on Twitter. On Saturday, when Tran appeared on CBS News to discuss the results of the Nevada caucus election, the host noted for the first time: “Before we start, we should disclose that several employees of 270 Strategies do some work for the Hillary Clinton campaign, however, Lynda, you do not.”
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/25/tv-pundits-praise-hillary-clinton-on-air-fail-to-disclose-financial-ties-to-her-campaign/
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AzzaMarch wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:meanwhile under Obama...  no wonder he's been labeled the food stamp president Ever heard of the Global Financial Crisis? Surprised you could read that tiny font :lol: -PB
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For the zealots here, the party is more important than the people hence their dogmatic defense of their many failings.
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John Oliver on Donald Trump:lol: He absolutely nails Trump.
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Le 2016 man has done it again XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Citing politifact as a "source" negates anything he has to say. Edited by 433: 29/2/2016 07:01:37 PM
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433 wrote:Le 2016 man has done it again XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Citing politifact as a "source" negates anything he has to say. Edited by 433: 29/2/2016 07:01:37 PM If using poor sources automatically disqualifies someone's opinion then you should've stopped listening to Trump long ago.
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bought and paid for comedians and celebrities have the celebrity obsessed kiddy generation under their spell hence lawn mowing undergraduates like JP rely them to provide their entire world perspective as doing their own research is just too much work man...where's my iPhone...
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Yep. John Oliver's takedown was fantastic.
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RedKat wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:bought and paid for comedians and celebrities have the celebrity obsessed kiddy generation under their spell hence lawn mowing undergraduates like JP rely them to provide their entire world perspective as doing their own research is just too much work man...where's my iPhone... Youre awfuly quiet about what you graduated as Edited by RedKat: 29/2/2016 07:54:35 PM does it make a difference?
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RedKat wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:RedKat wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:bought and paid for comedians and celebrities have the celebrity obsessed kiddy generation under their spell hence lawn mowing undergraduates like JP rely them to provide their entire world perspective as doing their own research is just too much work man...where's my iPhone... Youre awfuly quiet about what you graduated as Edited by RedKat: 29/2/2016 07:54:35 PM does it make a difference? JP's supposed profession is of such interest to you it seems to only strengthen your argument if you provide us with yours. You came in late and now you're trying to be another smart arse. JP talked down about Trump supporters saying they're uneducated angry white people because they dont have college degrees etc. (Azza did the same) I simply pointed out that JP was being an elitist and highlighted that he's not educated himself to be judging others, especially people who work in trades etc with skills and life experience. He tried to claim he's a tradesman because he mows lawns. Pay attention next time before you jump in.
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:lol: This is too good.
So what exactly was it about Year 9 that gave you the skills and life experience to judge others, ricey?
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JP wrote::lol: This is too good.
So what exactly was it about Year 9 that gave you the skills and life experience to judge others, ricey? You're the one judging others. FOTM is highlighting your hypocrisy and elitism.
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this is where TheFactOfTheMatter gone...he run away like a girl from Syria Quote:Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has assured Senate candidates running for reelection that they can run ads against Donald Trump even if he wins the GOP nomination for president.
According to the New York Times, senators attending private lunches with the Majority Leader have been advised to take the position that Donald Trump will lose badly in the general election and should prepare themselves for a Hillary Clinton presidency. https://www.rickey.org/mitch-mcconnell-says-republicans-will-drop-donald-trump-like-a-hot-rock-if-he-wins-gop-nomination/291719/
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote::lol: This is too good.
So what exactly was it about Year 9 that gave you the skills and life experience to judge others, ricey? You're the one judging others. FOTM is highlighting your hypocrisy and elitism. A lot of your posts in here seem to be very judgmental of other posters though ricey. But no, you'd never be hypocritical or elitist would you?
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adrtho wrote:this is where TheFactOfTheMatter gone...he run away like a girl from Syria Quote:Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has assured Senate candidates running for reelection that they can run ads against Donald Trump even if he wins the GOP nomination for president.
According to the New York Times, senators attending private lunches with the Majority Leader have been advised to take the position that Donald Trump will lose badly in the general election and should prepare themselves for a Hillary Clinton presidency. https://www.rickey.org/mitch-mcconnell-says-republicans-will-drop-donald-trump-like-a-hot-rock-if-he-wins-gop-nomination/291719/ I called you out for your shit talking there. You missed the post because you were too busy responding to someone else who called out your shit talking. :lol:
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JP wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:JP wrote::lol: This is too good.
So what exactly was it about Year 9 that gave you the skills and life experience to judge others, ricey? You're the one judging others. FOTM is highlighting your hypocrisy and elitism. A lot of your posts in here seem to be very judgmental of other posters though ricey. But no, you'd never be hypocritical or elitist would you? Look at the snot nose try to take the moral high ground now. You're lucky you have a couple of other snot noses backing you up because you cannot stand on your own feet.
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TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:adrtho wrote:this is where TheFactOfTheMatter gone...he run away like a girl from Syria Quote:Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has assured Senate candidates running for reelection that they can run ads against Donald Trump even if he wins the GOP nomination for president.
According to the New York Times, senators attending private lunches with the Majority Leader have been advised to take the position that Donald Trump will lose badly in the general election and should prepare themselves for a Hillary Clinton presidency. https://www.rickey.org/mitch-mcconnell-says-republicans-will-drop-donald-trump-like-a-hot-rock-if-he-wins-gop-nomination/291719/ I called you out for your shit talking there. You missed the post because you were too busy responding to someone else who called out your shit talking. :lol: you run away like a girl, stop making thing s up
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adrtho wrote:TheFactOfTheMatter wrote:adrtho wrote:this is where TheFactOfTheMatter gone...he run away like a girl from Syria Quote:Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has assured Senate candidates running for reelection that they can run ads against Donald Trump even if he wins the GOP nomination for president.
According to the New York Times, senators attending private lunches with the Majority Leader have been advised to take the position that Donald Trump will lose badly in the general election and should prepare themselves for a Hillary Clinton presidency. https://www.rickey.org/mitch-mcconnell-says-republicans-will-drop-donald-trump-like-a-hot-rock-if-he-wins-gop-nomination/291719/ I called you out for your shit talking there. You missed the post because you were too busy responding to someone else who called out your shit talking. :lol: you run away like a girl, stop making thing s up You havent responded to my post there shit talker. Where you were shit talking about 1960's bombers. Why are you saying girls run away? Sexist? Where do you come from? Some place where women are second class citizens?
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