Try 20-30 if you don't want to live in a ghetto.

My lord, jag gillar Svenskar

The delicious (or not so delicious) irony being that, allegedly, the waiting list to get an apartment in Stockholm or Göteborg is like five years or something.

Edited by quickflick: 26/5/2015 05:32:19 AM

:lol: yes, but it one of those box apartment that is made in one day :lol:

Yeah and in Sweden all you have to do is go fight for Isis and they'll give you an apartment


http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/stockholm/starka-reaktioner-mot-stockholms-satsning-mot-extremister

as for as citizenship is concerned, every EU country is very different..so a country like Lithuania will not let people have two passport, except for a certain time period in history..I know a guy, who was born in Lithuania , but move to Australia when he was 10 years old (grow up in Australia) he then move back to Lithuanian (now he can have both Lithuania and Australia passport) he had two kids who was born in Lithuanian , but he move the family back to Australian when the kids was 5 and 4 years old, the two kids get Australian citizenship , but they have to give up there Lithuanian citizenship .so you have this crazy situation were the dad has both Australian and Lithuanian passport, but the kids only have Australian, even known they was born in Lithuania to two Lithuanian parents

Latvia, they have 200,000 people (10% of population) , who can't get a Latvian passport, even know they were born and live there whole life in Latvia, because they can't speak Latvian..but if born after 1991, then you can

then you have Malta, which you can buy a passport for about $1 million Euros, Austria you get for about $5 million, and Cyprus gave citizenship to all the rich Russian, when Cyprus banks steal everyone money from there bank accounts in 2009 :)



Edited by adrtho: 26/5/2015 04:38:34 AM

Leaving aside the all-important economic aspect, the whole EU concept is a beautiful thing if you can get a passport from an EU country. But if you can't (and you want to live in Europe), it feels like blatant discrimination on the scale of Apartheid (don't get offended by hyperbole). The whole thing has absurdly inconsistent rules. Britain has really strict laws, while countries like Ireland and Hungary will grant citizenship in very tenuous circumstances. The whole point being that it feels like abject discrimination against people on the grounds, not even of their birth but their grandparent's birth. The idea that the difference between finding it frightfully difficult to stay in a country at all and being allowed to live, work, study (for FREE) and receive benefits from that country depends basically on where your grandparents were born is rather distasteful to me.

UK doesn't need to be in EU.....un like the rest of Europe, which need to be in a EU for many reasons , the UK doesn't

If the Uk had maintains it trading connection with the Commonwealth countries (especially Australia and Canda) the Uk would have a bigger economy today ,of course this is in hindsight..Today , the UK doesn't need to be inside the EU to have free trade agreement with the EU or any other country , as Australia and US would be signing a free trade agreement soon with the EU

David Cameron will use the up coming referendum to try and push the EU to make very needed reforms..

for all the Scot, who want Scotland to stay in the EU....do you like that you country is now full of Polish and Lithuanians?, who have free movement in and out of Scotland, but Australians, and Kiwis (none Uk grandparents) don't ?..would you like to see Scottish people be giving free movement in Australia or less restrictions? because Australia government will never give such free movement to UK citizens un less it reciprocal to Australian citizens, and under EU law, UK can not make such agreement with Australia or new Zealand

I know fuck all about this. And I'm really hazy on what the implications of the quitting the EU will be on Scotland, freedom of movement, blah blah blah.

But my limited understanding is that Cameron is actually being rather shrewd about this. He doesn't want the UK to leave the EU, but he wants to get the Tory Eurosceptics off his back and he also wants to cut a better deal with Strasbourg.

So what he has done is he has tinkered with the voting procedure to exclude Brits who've been abroad for over 15 years (because most will vote to stay), he has excluded non-British/Irish EU citizens living in the UK (because they'll almost all vote to stay) and he has included Commonwealth citizens, who have British permanent residency (because most will vote to quit the EU).

This keeps the Eurosceptics happy because it should increase the number of votes in favour of leaving the EU.

However it oughtn't to be enough to get the motion over the line. As such, it will be a close-ish result in favour of staying in the EU. And Cameron can throw a tanty at Strasbourg and ask them for more.

England trying to force the rest of the country out of the EU will be be the coup de grace for their precious Union.

It's happening. The Tories have announced a referendum to determine whether or not the UK should be part of the EU

Edited by paladisious: 24/6/2016 02:59:49 PM