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lukerobinho - 15 Mar 2019 2:55 PM
Keeping in mind that club teams train and play together every day, whereas our boys have probably never met each other up until last week 

thats no excuse. the olyroos should be beating these local sides.

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HeyItsRobbie - 15 Mar 2019 3:53 PM
lukerobinho - 15 Mar 2019 2:55 PM

thats no excuse. the olyroos should be beating these local sides.

Based on what ? the general consensus in football is that club teams are almost always stronger than national teams 
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lukerobinho - 15 Mar 2019 4:05 PM
HeyItsRobbie - 15 Mar 2019 3:53 PM

Based on what ? the general consensus in football is that club teams are almost always stronger than national teams 

What percentage? Which national teams? Are you deluded? No doubt you have a familial bias, which can make us all say dumb things.
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lukerobinho - 15 Mar 2019 4:05 PM
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Based on what ? the general consensus in football is that club teams are almost always stronger than national teams 

Add to the fact that the game was delayed for 20 mins because the squad got caught in traffic on the way to the ground apparently. Not exactly ideal prep. Not too concerned at this stage. Arnie will have a few days before the next friendly to iron out some kinks and bed down tactics etc. 
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Not too worried about this yet. Good early hit out. 
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Far out that is bad. Limited prep or not, our u-23s should be competing against this opposition.
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I’m proud of the boys to keep it at 2-0 against the might of Malaysian club football.

Hopefully they can maybe nick a draw or two in qualification and bow out doing the nation proud!
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https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/rising-star-piscopo-shines-as-olyroos-draw-in-kl-522148

Australia 1-1 Malaysia

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Australia’s starting XIGK: Jordan Holmes Nathaniel Atkinson Ivan Vujica Tass Mourdoukoutas Brandon Wilson Seb Pasquali Denis Genreau Riley McGree (c) Joey Champness Reno PiscopoNick D’Agostino
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These are the biggest names we have at youth level. Pretty poor results so far. I'll wait until the end of the group stage to judge how they've gone. I really don't know how Arnold is working with them.
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Fold the sport.
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paladisious - 18 Mar 2019 4:12 AM

Fold the sport.

If we had money, we would be doing well. 
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We wouldn’t even be in the top 80 under 23 teams in the world so this is actually not a bad result.
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Again the result should be looked at in context. It seems a massive improvement on their last game against sterner competition, still acclimatising to the conditions and bedding down Arnie's game plan. No doubt the quality is there, they just need to take their chances and hold it all together for 90 minutes... which is story of Australian football atm.  
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https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/warning-asean-football-can-surpass-australia-in-decade-522135

i believe this is gonna happen too. god help us

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At least Arnie is admitting it we have a problem, that's the first step.

Its been a case of not looking behind our shoulder for too long and now the realisation has begun that we have work to do.

By the way with no a-league next weekend fox sports should pick these games and broadcast them.
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HeyItsRobbie - 18 Mar 2019 11:02 AM

In the club rankings we are behind Thailand. So some might say it already has happened.


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nothing new to see here.

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So basically we could only score from a corner. No surprise we can't score, there aren't any strikers in this squad. Just like at most aussie national teams. Effectively playing a 4 - 6 - 0.

All of these players should be established stars in their respective leagues. Most are fringe squad players. When these are the best young players our country can produce we're going to be struggling big team at Socceroo level in a few years. Only maybe 1-2 potential socceroos in this squad. 

As always the hope is that the next batch of Joeys who have played through more of the curriculum, skills etc will be a level above. But we've been saying that for 10 years now. Still waiting on a next gen to actually be better and have numerous players in the aleague in their teens. 
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The interesting thing is that based on participation per country we should be doing a lot better.
Our women for example are top ten.Yet the whole world plays womens football.

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In 1992 a young 21 year old Ned Zelic scored a goal from an impossible angle to beat the Netherlands and hence qualify the Olyroos for the Olympics.

That Olyroos side ended up finishing 4th at the Barcelona Olympics, just missing out on medals after a 1-0 loss to Ghana.

Fast forward 27 years and the Olyroos drew 1-1 with Malaysia in a practice game.

It’ll be interesting to see how far we have progressed/fallen after these matches in Cambodia considering It’s been a tick over a generation of development since Barcelona.

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At least Atkinson is playing RB under Arnie.
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kaufusi - 18 Mar 2019 12:57 PM
So basically we could only score from a corner. No surprise we can't score, there aren't any strikers in this squad. Just like at most aussie national teams. Effectively playing a 4 - 6 - 0.

All of these players should be established stars in their respective leagues. Most are fringe squad players. When these are the best young players our country can produce we're going to be struggling big team at Socceroo level in a few years. Only maybe 1-2 potential socceroos in this squad. 

As always the hope is that the next batch of Joeys who have played through more of the curriculum, skills etc will be a level above. But we've been saying that for 10 years now. Still waiting on a next gen to actually be better and have numerous players in the aleague in their teens. 

Only maybe 1-2 potential socceroos in this squad .. bit of a harsh call based on a couple of warm up friendlies. 
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socceroo_06 - 18 Mar 2019 4:11 PM
In 1992 a young 21 year old Ned Zelic scored a goal from an impossible angle to beat the Netherlands and hence qualify the Olyroos for the Olympics.That Olyroos side ended up finishing 4th at the Barcelona Olympics, just missing out on medals after a 1-0 loss to Ghana. Fast forward 27 years and the Olyroos drew 1-1 with Malaysia in a practice game.It’ll be interesting to see how far we have progressed/fallen after these matches in Cambodia considering It’s been a tick over a generation of development since Barcelona.

behind Aloisi penalty and Cahill volley - Greatest Australian goal of all time (from ned Zelic that is). I remember watching it live and freaking out when he scored. 
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saweston - 19 Mar 2019 10:59 AM
kaufusi - 18 Mar 2019 12:57 PM

Only maybe 1-2 potential socceroos in this squad .. bit of a harsh call based on a couple of warm up friendlies. 

It's a bit harsh but its been awhile since we have seen some of the players in the youth teams make the grade up.

The 2011 side that competed in the u20 world cup was the best batch to play for the Roos.
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Does anyone know if there will be a stream for the tournament matches?
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Barca4Life - 19 Mar 2019 11:39 AM
saweston - 19 Mar 2019 10:59 AM

It's a bit harsh but its been awhile since we have seen some of the players in the youth teams make the grade up.

The 2011 side that competed in the u20 world cup was the best batch to play for the Roos.

Better than the 1992 Olyroos?
- Mark Bosnich
- Ned Zelic
- Paul Okon
- Damien Mori
- Steve Corica
- Tony Vidmar
etc. 
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socceroo_06 - 19 Mar 2019 2:28 PM
Barca4Life - 19 Mar 2019 11:39 AM

Better than the 1992 Olyroos?
- Mark Bosnich
- Ned Zelic
- Paul Okon
- Damien Mori
- Steve Corica
- Tony Vidmar
etc. 

I mean to say for the current group of players and not all time, sorry for the misunderstanding! 

I mean to say the 2010 team that made the AFC u20 final and played in the world cup in the following year has a fair few boys that have been involved for the Socceroos in the last few years, that has been a good group which hasn't been replicated since.

 Of course they no where the near the same quality as the mid-1990s gen that formed the '06 squad.
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Bowden - 19 Mar 2019 12:12 PM
Does anyone know if there will be a stream for the tournament matches?

You would hope Foxsports picks them up otherwise there is absolutely no football on this weekend.
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Barca4Life - 19 Mar 2019 3:08 PM
socceroo_06 - 19 Mar 2019 2:28 PM

I mean to say for the current group of players and not all time, sorry for the misunderstanding! 

I mean to say the 2010 team that made the AFC u20 final and played in the world cup in the following year has a fair few boys that have been involved for the Socceroos in the last few years, that has been a good group which hasn't been replicated since.

 Of course they no where the near the same quality as the mid-1990s gen that formed the '06 squad.

Is that the Oar, Leckie, Amini etc. group? 
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