In this thread, Grazorblade, Quickflick, 11.MVFC.11 and Lastbroadcast have provided a lot of technical detail and analysis about cricket.

They all have a pretty healthy background in the game. I for one, love all the technical aspects of cricket than can be extrapolated to further Test and First Class games in the future. These guys provide it in this thread. I can only get this when I sit with the members at Bellerive. I now have new knowledge to add to further discussions courtesy of the cricketers in this thread.


When I've looked at the other thread, there have been a lot more one line comments. I've visited it previously and it has not had quite the same stimulus for discussion, for me anyway.

In this thread the one line comments have been interspersed with the aforementioned four cricketers' knowledgeable posts. In the long form of cricket I'm only a very keen fan, with no significant playing background. In this thread we can follow up on their technical analyses of players in the Ashes from earlier posts.


Along with Aussies Abroad, FFA Cup and Australian national team underage football threads, this thread is my favourite on 442 forum.

As Grazor says, we are hardly inundated with other threads.

your right cricket is far too one dimensional to justify more than a single thread
this sub forum is bursting with threads and if we don't delete this thread we will be so overwhelmed we will miss all the enriching information about how to use black magic to get a new kitchen design

It has a different list of conversation points because instead of posting in the cricket thread a cricket thread v2 was made where everything that normally would be spoken about in the cricket thread was posted in the other cricket thread, for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

This :lol: There was nothing stopping the kind of talk happening in this thread happening in the other thread. It's not like it'd get lost amongst a barrage of posts.

Here's an idea, lets create a seperate thread for every form of the game. I hear the Kings Langley U12's are disappointed they don't have a thread to talk about them.

I know that you can make a case for merging this one with the cricket thread by the rules
but surely common sense says anything that promotes discussion is a positive
this thread has a notably different list of conversation topics to the other and has been highly active in its short existence

besides its not like we are drowning in threads in extra time. Knuckling down on merging similar threads makes sense in Australian football but I don't see the point here

So why didn't all this kind of contribution happen in the old thread lol?

-PB

You go on about how this thread is specially for Test cricket, well guess what most people only ever talked about in the old thread :lol: If this thread is the new cricket thread then it should be about all cricket, because there's no where near enough interest to warrant separate threads for different forms of the game, as demonstrated by the fact that the old cricket thread is now dead - has there been a single post about the one day series? Anyway, just my 2c, what this forum really needs is a merge function.

I'll add that it would be a great shame if this thread was closed down because some of the contributors have provided really clear and valuable explanations and descriptions of the technical aspects of batting and bowling. The kind of stuff that's very difficult to find on the internet. Also, points made about keeping the scoreboard ticking over, left-hand/right-hand combinations are excellent value too.

We must save those comments because they're really important.

Quite simply, this thread should stay. The other cricket thread just looks at limited overs cricket and is a lot more superficial. That's fine. We need that too. But this thread ought to exist on its own.

Cricket's a complex game. Limited overs cricket is a different beast to four/five day cricket. That should be reflected by the threads.

It's not as easy to go into technical detail on the other thread. This thread is worthwhile for that reason, alone.

This was started as a specific thread for the Ashes, which was ok at the time while they were happening. Now there is no need for it when there is already a cricket thread.

I can see your point, and some others no doubt agree with you .

As for the 23 pages that have occurred in discussion for this thread it appears to be a viable thread in itself.

I love having the analytical posts from the cricketers in this thread as points for further discussion down the track as this imminent Test series against Bangladesh starts in a few weeks following on from the Ashes.

I'm sorry I don't really see the point in separating one day cricket and test cricket into two threads. Especially when the cricket thread is quite active.

So rename the effing thread.

"Purists" FMD.

-PB

Not limited overs cricket in this one. It is for the cricket purists - four and five day cricket.

It is not a summer of cricket thread, but year round.

There are some pretty knowledgeable and analytical posters in this thread. Not me. I don't know much about cricket performance, but look forward to others posting who do.

The other thread is more confined to Australian domestic cricket, with a lot of it being 20/20 and one day cricket.

The likes of Grazorblade, Quickflick and 11.MVC.11 have provided a fair bit of technical detail and analysis in this thread, which is probably more confined to Test cricket and First Class cricket than the other one which has a large component of limited overs cricket.

Hope this makes sense to those who don't follow cricket.

Is it possible to change the title of the other thread to Limited Overs Cricket?

Edited by Decentric: 16/9/2015 08:06:38 AM

We have a cricket thread already, why do we need a second one?

You've convinced me.

Lyon for VC.

Not limited overs cricket in this one. It is for the cricket purists - four and five day cricket.

It is not a summer of cricket thread, but year round.

You might have noticed there are some pretty knowledgeable and analytical posters in this thread.

Not me. I don't know much about cricket performance, but look forward to others posting who do.

He got you :lol:

Brilliant title change.

Whats the difference between this thread and the other cricket thread?

Fekete was astonished. He had no idea he was in Test calculations.=d>

We don't know what players bring to the dressing room. Voges is an experienced captain and WA leader. It seems he is too old to be VC though.

Lyon is young and has a definite starting eleven place ATM, as incumbent spinner. So he is at a good stage of his career to be VC.

As for bowlers being vice captain, what about the experienced Siddle and Johnson as co vice-captains?

Andrew Fekete for Tasmania has been selected for the Test squad for Bangladesh tour.

Until this last season he was always a back up bowler to Hilfenhaus, Butterworth, Faulkner and Bird. He has performed this year though in the Shield.

Must say I feel sorry for Butterworth who was probably a better bowler a few years ago than Fekete is now. Plus he is a bowling all rounder who never received a Test call up.

Fekete appears to have less pace than most of the Aussie current tearaways, apart from Siddle. I've never seen Fekete recorded by the speed gun, but I think his fastest ball is 140kph.

Fekete will be a lot more accurate. He will make batters play all the time , like Siddle does.

Changed title.

Silk - had a very good first season. This happens to many, but bowlers often work them out in the second season. This happened to Silk.

Hope this doesn't happen to Cameron Bancroft from WA. We need him for the Test team as an opener now.

Doran - I haven't seen yet.

Faulkner - I've said a bit about him already. Mates of mine are mates with his parents, who was also a Shield and Aussie One day player. Locals want him in the Test team. Sage former players constantly refer to his paucity of centuries in the Shield though, often on good wickets later in the game at Bellerive.

His attitude and tenacity are admirable. Like many of the Tassie cricketers, Doolan, Bailey, Pain, Doherty, Cowan (former) he is very articulate and intelligent, apart from drinking under the influence in England.

Under Bailey as captain, Tassie has fostered an incredible team camaraderie, second to none. The national selectors have noted this. Players who've moved here from other states say that the Tassie team are all mates, with no egos. There is a very strong team ethic.

In other scenarios they've had to deal with a lot more egos. Unfortunately, Bailey was away too much last year with the national limited overs teams. I know that the ACB was desperate to have him captain the national sides compared to the lack of desired leaders in the teams, once Ponting and Hussey retired.

His captaincy and leadership skills value added to the state team's performance. Unfortunately, he wasn't good enough as a Test batter.


I also have a mate who is a former Shield umpire. There are some very interesting stories there.:lol:





Edited by Decentric: 23/8/2015 11:54:33 PM

Decentric

For what it's worth, I don't think I played cricket after 15, 16 and it was only for a lower school team.

Nevertheless, please keep us posted on the Shield. You've hopefully learnt a fair bit about the technical and tactical sides of cricket from folk on this thread and from that Ricky Ponting masterclass I linked you.

Tassie have some of the best young players in the Shield; Doran, Silk, Faulkner, to name a few.

I'd like to hear what you think of them.

This explanation sounds plausible.

I thought he was an excellent bowler who caused us a lot of problems.

I'm semi-retired and am a TCA member and live only 5 minutes walk from Bellerive cricket ground. It makes the experience of a game so different having access to the facilities, with licensed bar facilities and food available. Plus so many presentations are on from significant stakeholders in cricket.

Unlike the likes of you, Grazor, Lastbroadcast, 11.MVC.11, et al, I have not played cricket competition after 12 years old and really appreciate all the technical points you guys make about cricket. =d>

My cricket knowledge in performance is very different from football, but I have befriended a lot of former first grade cricketers, just one level below the Shield teams. Few former state and national players are TCA members though. I listen intently to their insights into the game.

One also meets a lot of people in the cricket members like visiting players' parents and Poms involved in English cricket coaching.

Edited by Decentric: 23/8/2015 11:21:32 PM