CONCACAF 2018 Qualifying


CONCACAF 2018 Qualifying

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thewitness wrote:
USA lost to Guatemala today, and are in danger of missing next round. Although are probably still ok. Honduras are in real trouble though.

The play Guatemala at home in a few days time, if they fail to win that, then we can start discussing the possibility of no United States in Russia for 2018. :shock:
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USA lost to Guatemala today, and are in danger of missing next round. Although are probably still ok. Honduras are in real trouble though.
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Last Week:
Group A
Mexico 3–0 El Salvador
Canada 1-0 Honduras

Group B:
Costa Rica 1-0 Haiti
Jamaica 0-2 Panama

Group C:
USA 6-1 St Vincent and the Grenadine's
Guatemala 1-2 Trinidad and Tobago





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TheSelectFew wrote:
Why is Canada so shit

They had something of a 'Golden Generation' themselves in the early/mid-'90s (they did push the Socceroos in the USA '94 quals, after all) but their talent pool just wasn't renewed I guess.

Paul Peschisolido, Alex Bunbury, Craig Forrest were pretty good players on their day, Tomas Radzinski later on...if only Owen Hargreaves had chosen to play for them instead of England:-k


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Canpro wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Why is Canada so shit


A few reasons...

Canada has no domestic league. With respect to its 3 MLS teams, maybe if lucky, one Canadian will play per match. Canada has terrible grass roots coaching. It's mostly all volunteer coaches who don't know what they're doing and teach their teams to play kick and run and use the biggest kids to to try win youth trophies. No emphasis on skill development at a young age. There are hardly any qualified coaches. Kids don't play on their own to develop their skills. Playing 2 or 3 times a week with their club team isn't going to do it. You can't play outside in Canada's climate for a solid 5 months of the year due to winter. Central American teams play in tough environments where fans are in your face, throw bags of piss and batteries at our players and set off fireworks all night outside our hotel. Playing in the extreme heat of these countries is something Canadian players find very difficult to do. No one really supports Canadian soccer, only European soccer. Many of our talented young players quit and play other sports because there's no pathway to the pros. Many of our best players also qualify for other countries and choose to play for them even though they grew up in Canada.

That's the tip of the ice berg, it goes much deeper than that.

Edited by canpro: 22/10/2015 04:05:32 PM


would it be more ideal for canada to invest in their own league and break away from the mls. Where more Canadians can play regular football?


A domestic league is rumoured to be announced by the end of the year. Whether it actually happens or not remains to be seen.

A few fence sitters have recently committed to Canada (Hoilett at Q.P.R, Aird at Rangers, Cavallini - a top scorer in Uruguay) which should help in qualifying. Canada has some good young kids too (20 year old Cyle Larin has 17 goals for Orlando in MLS this year) but the pool of players isn't deep enough.

Canadians are treated as domestic players on the 3 Canadian MLS teams, but they count as foreigners on the American MLS clubs, so it's hard for a lot of Canadians to find clubs.

People outside the Concacaf region also under estimate how hard it is to go play in Central America. It's very, very difficult. Canadian players don't have the mental strength to do it yet, it seems.
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Canpro wrote:
TheSelectFew wrote:
Why is Canada so shit


A few reasons...

Canada has no domestic league. With respect to its 3 MLS teams, maybe if lucky, one Canadian will play per match. Canada has terrible grass roots coaching. It's mostly all volunteer coaches who don't know what they're doing and teach their teams to play kick and run and use the biggest kids to to try win youth trophies. No emphasis on skill development at a young age. There are hardly any qualified coaches. Kids don't play on their own to develop their skills. Playing 2 or 3 times a week with their club team isn't going to do it. You can't play outside in Canada's climate for a solid 5 months of the year due to winter. Central American teams play in tough environments where fans are in your face, throw bags of piss and batteries at our players and set off fireworks all night outside our hotel. Playing in the extreme heat of these countries is something Canadian players find very difficult to do. No one really supports Canadian soccer, only European soccer. Many of our talented young players quit and play other sports because there's no pathway to the pros. Many of our best players also qualify for other countries and choose to play for them even though they grew up in Canada.

That's the tip of the ice berg, it goes much deeper than that.

Edited by canpro: 22/10/2015 04:05:32 PM


would it be more ideal for canada to invest in their own league and break away from the mls. Where more Canadians can play regular football?
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TheSelectFew wrote:
Why is Canada so shit


A few reasons...

Canada has no domestic league. With respect to its 3 MLS teams, maybe if lucky, one Canadian will play per match. Canada has terrible grass roots coaching. It's mostly all volunteer coaches who don't know what they're doing and teach their teams to play kick and run and use the biggest kids to to try win youth trophies. No emphasis on skill development at a young age. There are hardly any qualified coaches. Kids don't play on their own to develop their skills. Playing 2 or 3 times a week with their club team isn't going to do it. You can't play outside in Canada's climate for a solid 5 months of the year due to winter. Central American teams play in tough environments where fans are in your face, throw bags of piss and batteries at our players and set off fireworks all night outside our hotel. Playing in the extreme heat of these countries is something Canadian players find very difficult to do. No one really supports Canadian soccer, only European soccer. Many of our talented young players quit and play other sports because there's no pathway to the pros. Many of our best players also qualify for other countries and choose to play for them even though they grew up in Canada.

That's the tip of the ice berg, it goes much deeper than that.

Edited by canpro: 22/10/2015 04:05:32 PM
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Why is Canada so shit


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Draw for the 4th round is compete and matches kick off the 7th of November

Group A:
Mexico
Honduras
El Salvador
Canada

Group B:
Costa Rica
Panama
Haiti
Jamaica

Group C:
United States
Trinidad and Tobago
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Guatemala

Top 2 from each group go through to round 5.




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