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David Horse will find a way to fuck it. Even if it was implemented.
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The answer is: I am aware of these facts. Nevertheless, you must leave within two days
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Quote:League system for Tests could be in place by 2019 - ICC's Dave Richardson By Stephan Shemilt BBC Sport
England needed only seven days to take an unassailable 2-0 lead in the three-Test series against Sri Lanka A league system for Test cricket could be in place by 2019, according to International Cricket Council chief executive Dave Richardson.
The one-sided nature of England's current series against Sri Lanka led former captain Michael Vaughan to call for a promotion and relegation system.
"Hopefully we can make a decision by the end of the year over what structure to implement," said Richardson.
Currently, the only global competition for Test cricket is the ICC rankings.
The rankings are based on bilateral series arranged between individuals countries, with Test series varying in length and frequency.
"If you want to create a real champion Test team, you need a competition that provides the same number of opportunities," Richardson told BBC Sport.
"That means the same number of fixtures, home and away, so that at the end of a league period you can crown a champion team.
"Realistically, with tours and broadcast agreements in place, we're perhaps looking at 2019 for it to begin."
Speaking after England trounced Sri Lanka by an innings in the first Test at Headingley, former captain Vaughan suggested a system that would see teams split into three leagues of four.
"Test cricket over five days, historically being played in series, lends itself to a league running over at least two years as opposed to a one-off competition where everyone comes to one country," said Richardson, a former Test wicketkeeper with South Africa.
"It will be quite difficult. Everyone wants to play Test cricket so we need to find a structure that caters to that. That could mean two groups or two divisions."
Richardson, speaking at the launch of the 2017 Champions Trophy at The Oval, confirmed that the ICC is looking at the possibility of adding a World Twenty20 competition to the calendar in 2018.
West Indies won the World Twenty20 in India in April, but the next scheduled edition of a tournament that has usually been played every two years since its inception in 2007 is currently scheduled for 2020.
"There have been discussions with broadcast partners," said Richardson. "It's too early to say if that will come to fruition.
"Following the success of this year's tournament and the opportunity the World T20 provides to associate member countries, it's something we're keen to look at."
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At the moment the clubs/areas do not know when or whether there will be expansion, when or whether there will be a second division and when or whether there will be promotion and relegation. The FFA are in the same position. They simply do not have the information to understand the footballing landscape below them because that intellectual property is within the clubs and regions.
Rather than calling for a second division or promotion and relegation maybe the way forward is for the FFA to call for expressions of interest/proposals for regions/clubs that want to play at a higher level. The criteria could be that the clubs/regions are interested in being in a possible second division starting in 2017. In that way at least there can be clarity in what the aspirations of the clubs / regions are.
Obviously not every area/club would be capable of playing at the HAL level - but some could. Others would be happy to just play at a higher level than they are now. i.e. Tasmania have previously said that they wanted to be in the HAL but this week intimated that it is a long way off. Maybe a second division would work for them.
The proposals should be in two parts with the first part mandatory and the second part optional.
First Part - proposal to join a second division Second Part - proposal to be considered as an expansion club/area including what they would bring to the competition, including past rivalries with existing clubs or in concert with other bids, covering an area not represented at the HAL level, etc.
Areas/Clubs could include but should not be limited to Canberra, Wollongong, Adelaide City, Brisbane Strikers, FNQ Heat, Gold Coast City, Geelong, NQ Fury, SMFC, Southern Sydney, South West Sydney, Green Gully, Heidelberg United, Melbourne Knights, Penrith, Manly United, Sunshine Coast FC, Sydney Olympic, Sydney United 58, Western Pride, Hobart, Launceston, Darwin.
If there are limited proposals received then at least the FFA know that clubs/areas are not that interested. However, if there are viable proposals for either expansion or a second division then the FFA can start working with those groups and possible sponsors / broadcasters (by whatever means ) to see what is possible.
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Quote:Relegation and promotion not an option for overhauled Indian Super League
There’d be very few people that would suggest there are similarities between football in India and Australia. However, the scenario playing out in the world’s second most populous country will be awfully familiar to many in Australia.
By Paul Williams 16 JUN 2016 - 12:41 PM UPDATED YESTERDAY 12:51 PM
In a country dominated by cricket, football, which is hugely popular in pockets of the country, is still trying to find its feet. The launch of the Indian Super League created headlines across the world, with its list of high-profile, but ageing marquee players, and superstar owners, including cricket legend Sachin Tendulkar.
But it was in essence a rogue league, sitting outside the control of the All India Football Federation (AIFF) and the structures of the AFC and FIFA.
All that is about to change, however.
The AIFF is proposing a radical overhaul of India’s league structure that would see the ISL become the officially recognised top tier league in the country, relegating the I-League (currently recognised as the top division) and its nine teams to second division status (to be rebranded as League One), while a new third-tier competition (League Two) will also be created.
But here’s the catch – there will be no promotion and relegation between the Indian Super League and the new League One (only between League One and League Two).
The might of the Indian Super League has relegated some of Asia’s most historic clubs – namely Mohun Bagan and East Bengal – to the second tier with no chance of promotion.
Sound familiar?
Their only glimmer of hope may be a plan to expand the ISL from eight teams to 12, which many have interpreted as a sign that the I-League’s three biggest clubs (Mohun Bagan, East Bengal and Bengaluru) will be admitted into an expanded ISL competition. The only sticking point may be the AIFF’s insistence they pay a franchise fee and go through a formal tender process to do so.
Understandably, the proposal has been met with fierce resistance.
“Indian football can’t be without Mohun Bagan or East Bengal,” Mohun Bagan general secretary Anjan Mitra told local media. “We are the only clubs in the country with highest fan base and any move to keep either of the two out of the Indian Super League will be opposed.”
Shanti Ranjan Dasgupta, an official from East Bengal, agreed.
“Clubs like East Bengal and Mohun Bagan have contributed immensely to Indian football for many years,” said Dasgupta. “It is insulting for clubs like us to have to follow a bidding process to join the ISL.”
One of the regions in India where football is most popular is the state of Goa. A Portuguese colony until as recently as 1961, and with a population of just 1.4 million people, making it one of the smallest states in India, it is home to as many as five professional football clubs.
I-League side Sporting Clube de Goa, modelled on their Portuguese namesakes, has been one of the most vocal opponents of the AIFF’s proposal and their CEO Victor Fernandes told The World Game they felt ambushed by the AIFF’s announcement.
Since the inception of ISL the AIFF officials, especially the President Mr. Praful Patel, repeatedly stated that I-League was the premier competition of the country and that the interest of the I-League clubs would be taken care of and they would be consulted in the event of any change,” he said.
“So we felt that we were ambushed when the proposal was announced.”
Fernandes confirmed to The World Game that he had spoken to the other I-League clubs, but there was no united front, with some clubs openly supporting the proposal.
“The I-League clubs are not united on this issue,” he said.
”Three of the nine clubs have openly welcomed the proposal – DSK Shivajians, Shillong Lajong FC and Bengaluru FC – while Mumbai FC is non-committal.
“But both the Kolkata clubs, namely Mohun Bagan and Kingfisher East Bengal, and we along with the other Goan Clubs – Salgaocar FC and Dempo SC – have opposed the proposal.
“Strong opposition has also come from respected former footballers and former Indian national team captains like P.K. Nannerjee and Chuni Goswami who vehemently attacked the proposal.”
And according to Fernandes the strong backlash has had an impact.
“AIFF has now backtracked, saying that it is only a proposal on paper (and is) open for debate.”
Across town, FC Goa, the Goan representative in the ISL, share a different opinion.
“We are generally pleased with the announcement and believe it’s a positive move from a structural point of view,” FC Goa CEO Sukhvinder Singh told The World Game.
“For the ISL clubs particularly, it allows the clubs to move from an event orientation to a league orientation. While the league successfully runs for a period of three to four months, the downtime of eight months doesn’t allow for a lot of development to take place.”
While Singh appreciates the difficult position the I-League clubs are placed in, he believes there is room in Goa for all clubs.
“While FC Goa is what it is today, it is also because of the vast number of footballing units, teams and clubs who have kept the football culture and philosophy alive in the state.
“We associate and do not compete when it comes to football development. The state is not big but the football culture is.
“I think what we have done well is united the state of Goa. When we play our matches, our stands are packed to the rafters and we have fans coming from every corner of the state to back the team.
“We are a truly community driven club and we have struck a chord with the non-Goans and neutrals alike.”
If India is to develop it needs a united front. Sadly, it is anything but at the moment. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/blog/2016/06/15/relegation-and-promotion-not-option-overhauled-indian-super-league
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Whilst making a pigs ear of it at the moment, at least they'll change their minds once the dust settles. Gallop will still be trotting out the same horseshit til he rides off into the sunset with his TV deal commision in the saddlebags
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Section of article. Teams withdrawing from league. Quote:The ISL will be turned into Indian football's top tier league and I-League will be relegated to the second tier. Your thoughts. How can they do that? It will be illegal. Where in the world do you pay a franchise fee to play in the top league? You can take it from me today: In the virtual sense, Indian football will be dead in five years. There will be football activities but no new talent will emerge. If at all, only foreigners will benefit. The ISL will provide a chance for just 50 players while the others will simply watch from the sidelines or the stands. Where is the platform for our footballers? I have closely monitored football in India since 2000 and the free fall (in our rankings) has been steady. Successive (AIFF) presidents and officials have announced goals of qualifying for the World Cup but when the date draws close, it gets pushed even further. All that they do is fool us. Look at AIFF as a business venture: When you know that the fortunes are nose-diving, you will either walk away or accept that you are doing something wrong and take corrective measures. At the AIFF, who is accountable? http://m.timesofindia.com/city/goa/Indian-football-in-wrong-hands-Peter-Vaz/articleshow/52930193.cms
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scott21 wrote:Section of article. Teams withdrawing from league. Quote:The ISL will be turned into Indian football's top tier league and I-League will be relegated to the second tier. Your thoughts. How can they do that? It will be illegal. Where in the world do you pay a franchise fee to play in the top league? You can take it from me today: In the virtual sense, Indian football will be dead in five years. There will be football activities but no new talent will emerge. If at all, only foreigners will benefit. The ISL will provide a chance for just 50 players while the others will simply watch from the sidelines or the stands. Where is the platform for our footballers? I have closely monitored football in India since 2000 and the free fall (in our rankings) has been steady. Successive (AIFF) presidents and officials have announced goals of qualifying for the World Cup but when the date draws close, it gets pushed even further. All that they do is fool us. Look at AIFF as a business venture: When you know that the fortunes are nose-diving, you will either walk away or accept that you are doing something wrong and take corrective measures. At the AIFF, who is accountable? http://m.timesofindia.com/city/goa/Indian-football-in-wrong-hands-Peter-Vaz/articleshow/52930193.cms Interesting. It'd be a shame for those franchise owners. They're probably better off combining the ISL and I-League into a top flight. There's only 17 teams between the two. That way everyone will be actually investing in a proper top tier league, and there'll be no feelings of hatred.
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scott21 wrote:Section of article. Teams withdrawing from league. Quote:The ISL will be turned into Indian football's top tier league and I-League will be relegated to the second tier. Your thoughts. How can they do that? It will be illegal. Where in the world do you pay a franchise fee to play in the top league? You can take it from me today: In the virtual sense, Indian football will be dead in five years. There will be football activities but no new talent will emerge. If at all, only foreigners will benefit. The ISL will provide a chance for just 50 players while the others will simply watch from the sidelines or the stands. Where is the platform for our footballers? I have closely monitored football in India since 2000 and the free fall (in our rankings) has been steady. Successive (AIFF) presidents and officials have announced goals of qualifying for the World Cup but when the date draws close, it gets pushed even further. All that they do is fool us. Look at AIFF as a business venture: When you know that the fortunes are nose-diving, you will either walk away or accept that you are doing something wrong and take corrective measures. At the AIFF, who is accountable? http://m.timesofindia.com/city/goa/Indian-football-in-wrong-hands-Peter-Vaz/articleshow/52930193.cms 5 years tops.
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Quality thread renaming. -PB
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paulbagzFC wrote:Quality thread renaming.
-PB The pictures are 10/10 stuff :lol:
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The Maco wrote:paulbagzFC wrote:Quality thread renaming.
-PB The pictures are 10/10 stuff :lol: Will just get replaced by Aikhme
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"9GABmeme420" wrote:scott21 wrote:Section of article. Teams withdrawing from league. Quote:The ISL will be turned into Indian football's top tier league and I-League will be relegated to the second tier. Your thoughts. How can they do that? It will be illegal. Where in the world do you pay a franchise fee to play in the top league? You can take it from me today: In the virtual sense, Indian football will be dead in five years. There will be football activities but no new talent will emerge. If at all, only foreigners will benefit. The ISL will provide a chance for just 50 players while the others will simply watch from the sidelines or the stands. Where is the platform for our footballers? I have closely monitored football in India since 2000 and the free fall (in our rankings) has been steady. Successive (AIFF) presidents and officials have announced goals of qualifying for the World Cup but when the date draws close, it gets pushed even further. All that they do is fool us. Look at AIFF as a business venture: When you know that the fortunes are nose-diving, you will either walk away or accept that you are doing something wrong and take corrective measures. At the AIFF, who is accountable? http://m.timesofindia.com/city/goa/Indian-football-in-wrong-hands-Peter-Vaz/articleshow/52930193.cms 5 years tops. MLS? Edited by NicCarBel: 27/6/2016 09:49:47 PM
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https://audioboom.com/boos/4786648-a-league-next-singapore
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View from the fence wrote:https://audioboom.com/boos/4786648-a-league-next-singapore Sorry man. I got 55 seconds in and closed my browser... Im personally anti-nix, so the thought of another foreign club makes me queasy. We don't need "Singapore to be Australia's golden gateway into se Asia's lucrative market" anymore with the entry of one chairman martin lee. China is the market we want to tap. Singapore, meh. With lee spearheading the HAL into the Chinese market (this has been staggeringly understated IMO), the Singapore argument makes a lot less sense now. (Not that it made any sense IMO from the beginning). Expansion should come in the form of a div2... To quote scott21 (I think)... 2 closed leagues of 10 teams with no pro/rel. Simmer for 5 years. Then let them loop between eachother. (Or 12 and 8 teams). Where will the cash come from? Well Ledman bankrolls portugals div2. I assume the acquisition of jets would act as a conflict of interest(???)..then surely lee could put ffa onto someone? Where there's one Ledman - there's another... The "where will the cash come from?" naysayer mantra is wearing thin now IMO. We currently have an owner who bloody does this. AND the imminent TV deal could also funnel a tidy little sum towards the project. "Excuses autopilot" time is over. Edited by HortoMagiko: 6/7/2016 11:12:55 PM
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Image: Graeme Furlong As with many sports, Australia has historically been perceived as a small footballing nation capable of taking big scalps by not settling for mediocrity and taking the battle to the bigger teams. One staple battle in football worldwide is promotion and relegation. As the NPL season reaches its conclusion, three clubs – Bulleen Lions, Richmond SC and Northcote City – will engage in their own battles to avoid relegation on the final day. The consequences are tangible – a loss in gate revenue against the biggest top-tier clubs, a likely depleted squad that will lessen chances of an FFA Cup run, reduced media coverage, a loss of perceived prestige which may impact junior registrations. A week ago, Port Melbourne snapped a long winless streak to escape the drop by beating Hume City – simply there’s no room for sustained mediocrity in a league with promotion and relegation. Avondale achieved the same feat – notably without high-profile former A-League additions such as the injured Spase Dilevski, James Brown and Francesco Stella, the latter two for whom a league with relegation would have been an unfamiliar environment, and perhaps a shock to the system, before departing the club. There’s only one side that is guaranteed relegation at this point. Melbourne Victory: a financially stable A-League club which will remain a desired destination for youth players regardless of the tier it plays in. As a franchise for which NPL results don’t define its livelihood, could that be a reason why the team hadn’t actually picked up a point since Round 11, with results not necessarily a requirement? Granted there were key player departures and the natural difficulty of U20 players facing off against men, but the fact remains that despite three wins in 26 games, the consequence was a number of players featured – and were praised for – performing in a friendly against Juventus and Atletico Madrid, where the results were ultimately meaningless. Are those not the hallmarks of a system that rewards mediocrity? READ MORE > The A-League’s Victorian talent drain Contrast the fortunes of a player still young enough for Melbourne Victory’s youth team who was released from the A-League system: Braedyn Crowley. The young striker was plunged into the deep end at Northcote City, a club rooted to the bottom of the table at the time. Google his name and the most viewed video highlight is a miss for the Newcastle Jets from right in front of goal. Yet thrust in a pressure-cooker situation, the 19-year-old flourished, scoring almost a goal a game to take his tally to 13, earning a trial with Melbourne City in the process while dragging Northcote into a position where survival is a possibility. Crowley has thrived in what he admitted has been his first experience in a do-or-die environment. Would he have played with the same desire and intensity if still in a youth environment? Hypotheticals, perhaps. But of no doubt is that if there weren’t promotion and relegation in the NPL and NPL2, hardly anybody would take interest in a meaningless contest between clubs sitting 11th to 13th on the ladder respectively – an issue plaguing the sides out of promotion contention in NPL2, though the latter will have the threat of relegation to the state leagues next year. Even just a short look of the relegation battles of the NPL, and not one club bent over and accepted its fate – from the desperate battle amongst North Geelong, Dandenong Thunder and Werribee City of last year, to the famous last-day goal from Connor Reddan in the 95th minute that saved Port Melbourne from the drop in season one of the NPL and sunk Ballarat Red Devils in the process. That’s the kind of sustained interest or fight not present in the A-League. What, in the latter stages of the A-League when a club is out of finals contention, compels supporters to come out in force to will their club to some sort of outcome? And what forces a club to get its act together without the threat of relegation and the propping-up of the FFA when things do go wrong? A look at Central Coast, for example. The consequences of a club finishing last by a record-breaking margin was the head coach earning another year at the helm – it took a defeat to an NPL club the next year to force the hierarchy’s hand. As an aside, calls have been made for Central Coast to not look for recycled coaches and give an up-and-coming NPL coach an opportunity. Yet signings have already been made – mostly players recycled from other A-League clubs – and the club continues to refuse to spend the full salary cap. Those are the kind of circumstances that signal another bottom-half finish at best for the club, and which up-and-coming ambitious coach would realistically benefit from such a limiting environment? Such a situation could be perceived to have been fostered out of the existence of a system that doesn’t punish mediocrity, one that Jurgen Klinsmann has similarly criticised in the USA. It’s also a system of complacency that could be leading to a lack of Australians in top-tier European leagues. Is it possible that talented players who spend a majority of their youth and senior the A-League system, without the constant pressure of a promotion and relegation system, do not have the mental fortitude required to then succeed in an overseas league and subsequently return to Australia? And compared to the semi-professional nature of the NSL, players can now make a comfortable living in the A-League, especially considering the statistically proven fact that once in the A-League system, it is much easier to stay there without the threat of potential NPL replacements being lined up. READ MORE > The growing divide between NPL and A-League Is it also possible that some of the players who weren’t developed overseas, such as Mile Jedinak, Ivan Franjic, Sasa Ognenovski, Mathew Leckie and even now a Craig Goodwin, benefited from spending a certain amount of time toiling away in Australia’s battle-hardened second tiers, where the level of pressure remains the same from the first to the last round of the season? Jacob Eliopoulos, a 19-year-old defender who earned a trial in Cyprus with Champions League club APOEL, noted that his two seasons at Northcote and Port Melbourne, both clubs finishing in the bottom half of the table and involved in relegation scraps, had aided his development. “My last two seasons I have been in some sort of position where we are pressured to win games in order to stay in the league, this has helped me become more confident under pressure and to realise that pressure is a good thing and brings out the best in players.” As a nation that has historically prided itself on punching above its weight, mediocrity won’t further that cause, and promotion and relegation seems the next logical step forward in the evolution of Australian football as a way of eliminating complacency and fostering – and rewarding – ambition.
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What a load of hog wash. The site is totally NPL pro. P&R may come, one day if at all but is decades away at best and they don't like it. Evolution won't come unless the top tier is strong. Thinning out the pay packet will set the code back and lower the standards coincidentally just right for the lower little clubs that have failed before at the expense of the real evolution that is transpiring right now. Having a facticious sugar daddy doesn't solve the problems.
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+xleeeel Crowley in the pic. -PB
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+x+xleeeel Crowley in the pic. -PB Farken well done lol. -PB
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+xWhat a load of hog wash. The site is totally NPL pro. P&R may come, one day if at all but is decades away at best and they don't like it. Evolution won't come unless the top tier is strong. Thinning out the pay packet will set the code back and lower the standards coincidentally just right for the lower little clubs that have failed before at the expense of the real evolution that is transpiring right now. Having a facticious sugar daddy doesn't solve the problems. P&R is not possible under the current structure of the HAL. Indeed I cant think of a structure that guarantees a team in each of the state capitals (a broadcaster would not contemplate a competition without teams from both Sydney and Melbourne). If we went to a structure like the german one where the revenue a team raises enables them to have "Big" clubs. In a short space of time there would only be teams from the bigger cities as the additional financial muscle that ensures teams from the big cities are always there will crush the regional teams and even potentially smaller states and multiple big city teams will take over in the long run. You may say but AU won the HAL last year with one of the smaller spends, (relatively). My answer is that ensuring the big cities always are there means basically no cap for them (again relatively) and applying the same rules to any team from a big city you end up with only big city teams. If you cap the number of big city teams, thats the end of P&R on merit (because if the winner of the second tier is another big city team they cant go up) and you will have a two speed competition.
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+x+xWhat a load of hog wash. The site is totally NPL pro. P&R may come, one day if at all but is decades away at best and they don't like it. Evolution won't come unless the top tier is strong. Thinning out the pay packet will set the code back and lower the standards coincidentally just right for the lower little clubs that have failed before at the expense of the real evolution that is transpiring right now. Having a facticious sugar daddy doesn't solve the problems. P&R is not possible under the current structure of the HAL. Indeed I cant think of a structure that guarantees a team in each of the state capitals (a broadcaster would not contemplate a competition without teams from both Sydney and Melbourne). This is why the comp will evetually be stuck at 12 (possibly 14 teams imo). 12 teams is 33 games 14 teams is 39 games (which may be considered too many with finals) or 26 games. It seems likely the next expansion will be in Sydney and Melbourne tv regions. That is 18 derbies (3x3) + (3x3). Why would the FFA expand to Canberra or even Brisbane or Perth meaning teams only meet each other twice? You lose 6 derbies in the biggest markets. The model is stupid and now FFA have painted themsleves into a corner because the tv wont give up these games lightly.
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+x+x+xleeeel Crowley in the pic. -PB Farken well done lol. -PB He can ask Tim about Lamborghinis and shit
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My ideal A-League. - A 16 team competition, with a simple home and away format. This gives a 30 week season, with 8 matches per week.
- Prize money awarded to all teams at $3000 per point. (therefore incentive in every match)
- Stretch the season out by 4 weeks to allow for international breaks.
- Season starts 1st weekend of September. We will still get much less media coverage than other codes, but hey, so what, we already have minimal coverage, and it wont be worse than now. This gives us a 4 week period where we overlap with AFL/NRL finals, but by the time we get to last week of September we’ve built some momentum, and we have fewer matches to compete against each week. We can avoid a clash with the actual grand finals. Make sure we schedule a big Victory match in Melbourne the night before the AFL grand final and a big Wanderers match in Sydney the night before the NRL grand final. This allows people travelling to those cities for AFL/NRL to also potentially go to a football match.
- Make sure the NPL National finals series finishes last week of August so there is no overlap
- A-League season finishes on 2nd last week of April.
- Top 2 teams qualify for ACL and also seeded into round of 16 in FFA Cup.
- Teams 15-16 fail to qualify for FFA Cup. (gives a similar incentive to relegation)
- Benefits of the above– every game is financially important to clubs so they must try to get max points, and less chance of teams fielding a sub-par team. We have 240 matches so lots more content for t.v broadcasts over current 135 matches. Derbies in 80% of rounds. Also introduces a relegation type battle at the bottom for fans to see which teams fail to qualify for the cup.
- As for the new A-League teams; I’d bring in a Melbourne team (South Melbourne), a Sydney team (Sydney United), an Adelaide team (Adelaide City), a Brisbane team (Brisbane Strikers), a new Perth franchise, and a new Auckland franchise. This would have a league with 8 locations (northern NSW is one location and NZ is one location). This would give every team a ‘derby’ match, with locations of Melbourne and Sydney having 6 derbies each city per year, and 2 derbies in each of the other 6 locations. This means a total of 24 derbies across a 30 round season.
- My criteria for entry into A-League:
Club pays $5 million licence fee to FFA. (weeds out pretenders, makes sure new clubs have something to lose, and with 6 new teams brings in $30 mil which after say 3 years, can be split b/w FFA and current clubs). Club stadium is within 50 kilometres of existing A-League club stadium (exception for NZ where Auckland may be considered a derby) Club has at least 3000 membership base. Club has stadium of at least 12 k capacity with adequate lighting for tv night matches. Club has at least proven $5 million in cash reserves set aside for running of team, directors of new club to sign personal guarantee that funds are available. - FFA commit to eventually (Say within 10 yrs) allowing A-League to be run by an A-league independent commission, separate from FFA.
- FFA CUP
- Round of 32 becomes round of 28 - Which is 22 member federation clubs and 6 A- League clubs
- The 12 A league teams that finish 3-14 in the league play against each other (3v14, 4v15 etc) and the 6 winners qualify for the FFA cup round of 28
- 14 winners in round of 28 go to round of 16 where top 2 A-League teams are already qualified.
- Benefits- we lose 2 games from round of 32, but get 6 all A-League games to qualify for Round of 28, so an increase of 4 games overall for TV schedule, and all 4 are A-League team only games ( which could lift ratings).
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Hey Mark, this is the P&R thread I think you're looking for the Expansion thread
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+xHey Mark, this is the P&R thread I think you're looking for the Expansion thread Thanks Mate, i've posted in the other thread.
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South Melbourne's NPL Victoria championship winning coach Chris Taylor has blasted the A-League for being a timid competition too keen on recycling failed players and criticised the FFA for continuing to ignore the need for promotion and relegation to liven up competition. Taylor's views will win little support at the FFA's Sydney headquarters and may be dismissed by some as just the envious claims of a coach who has never had a chance at the top level.
But his criticisms are starting to gain wider traction with the soccer public, many of whom have grown frustrated by a league which has the same ten teams year in and year out.Increasing numbers of fans believe the lack of promotion and relegation means there is no penalty for failure on the pitch – nor any reward for ambitious clubs who succeed at lower levels and are keen to test themselves at a higher level.
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I think the NPL clubs should aim to start a ''National NPL/NPL First Division''. Take the premier of each NPL plus the next best 2-4 out of the runner ups. 10 or 12 teams and each year after the initial season the State League premiers play off in a 14 round H/A ''NPL Championship'' to decide who goes up in Pro/Rel.
In no way do I mean a breakaway to the FFA but just take it out of the FFAs hands. Keep it semi pro but Chase some sponsorship/apply to the FFA for funding just to cover the travel costs. Using this years NPLs as an example you could potentially have Sydney United, Edgeworth, Bentleigh, Perth, Adelaide City, Brisbane Strikers, Devonport City, Canberra Olympic with the ikes of Heidelberg, Blacktown City, Gold Coast City fighting it out for the last couple spots. Then the next year you can bet your money other clubs are gonna want a piece of that so you'll end up with the likes of South Melbourne/Green Gully/FNQ/Wollongong/West Adelaide etc doing everything they can to first win their state NPL and then the "Championship" to gain promtion. If it makes enough noise it might even force the FFAs han in making it an "Official" Second Division
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