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+x+xPaul Lederer says it’s time for the whingeing and negativity to stop, and some optimism to return to the A-League.The billionaire chairman of the rejuvenated Western Sydney Wanderers says Saturday evening’s sold-out derby against rival Sydney FC at the new 30,000-capacity Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta is proof the league still has a bright future. The match, Lederer tells The Weekend Australian, should also mark a turning point of sorts. while I don’t think the HAL has set the world on fire this season so far, it does feel like there is a bit more momentum compared to 12 months ago. He won't be so positive when Macarthur comes in.
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+xPaul Lederer says it’s time for the whingeing and negativity to stop, and some optimism to return to the A-League.The billionaire chairman of the rejuvenated Western Sydney Wanderers says Saturday evening’s sold-out derby against rival Sydney FC at the new 30,000-capacity Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta is proof the league still has a bright future. The match, Lederer tells The Weekend Australian, should also mark a turning point of sorts. while I don’t think the HAL has set the world on fire this season so far, it does feel like there is a bit more momentum compared to 12 months ago.
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+x+xI just realised why this thread is titled "God make it end". It's a direct reference to scott20won's inability to use a hard return or any kind of formatting that would make his posts legible. :hehe: 😄 This got a chuckle out of me 😄 Sorry Scott 😄
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+xI just realised why this thread is titled "God make it end". It's a direct reference to scott20won's inability to use a hard return or any kind of formatting that would make his posts legible. :hehe: 😄 This got a chuckle out of me 😄 Sorry Scott 😄
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“As first offerings go, Western United-Melbourne City was a contest to whet the appetite. For Western’s new fans to the A-League, even a loss won’t see them not come back for future derbies, such was the drama of the contest. And to think, next week they’ve got Victory.” https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2019/oct/27/sportwatch-constellation-cup-wbbl-a-league-and-more-liveIn a city/state that is used to domestic competition why deny the likes of SM, MK, HU & team 11 and others the chance to be in Australia’s top football division..,
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+xhttps://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/new-era-for-aleague-as-owners-step-up/news-story/e015563a6c322692c246dba00dc3bf33Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread. Probably somewhere else this could have gone. Paul Lederer says it’s time for the whingeing and negativity to stop, and some optimism to return to the A-League.The billionaire chairman of the rejuvenated Western Sydney Wanderers says Saturday evening’s sold-out derby against rival Sydney FC at the new 30,000-capacity Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta is proof the league still has a bright future. The match, Lederer tells The Weekend Australian, should also mark a turning point of sorts. I wouldnt call wanting pro rel whinging. But I’m not you.
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https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/new-era-for-aleague-as-owners-step-up/news-story/e015563a6c322692c246dba00dc3bf33Couldn't be arsed starting a new thread. Probably somewhere else this could have gone. Paul Lederer says it’s time for the whingeing and negativity to stop, and some optimism to return to the A-League.The billionaire chairman of the rejuvenated Western Sydney Wanderers says Saturday evening’s sold-out derby against rival Sydney FC at the new 30,000-capacity Bankwest Stadium in Parramatta is proof the league still has a bright future. The match, Lederer tells The Weekend Australian, should also mark a turning point of sorts.
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+x“Community Corner: Should Liga MX and MLS eventually merge? Donald Wine II Sep 25, 2019, 8:11am PDT MLS: Leagues Cup-Cruz Azul at LA Galaxy Kelvin Kuo-USA TODAY Sports The idea of Major League Soccer and Liga MX eventually forming a merger has re-entered the public forum after Liga MX president Enrique Bonilla again suggested it was a part of the league’s future just a couple weeks ago. It would be an ambitious plan for the two biggest leagues in CONCACAF to merge and create a superleague that would likely involve a ton of money and create a ton of money. However, the logistics of it will be interesting. MLS is expanding all the way to 30 teams...for now. There could be more after that. Liga MX currently has 19 teams and Acenso MX, the second division, has 14 teams. What this means is at minimum 63 teams could be involved in creating a new combined league that has 2-3 divisions, and it could also be something that eventually creates a promotion-relegation system. There will be questions about how the divisions could be split up and the implications of where the bigger clubs in the United States and Mexico will end up. Will MLS push to have the teams from NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Texas involved in the top division? From Liga MX, there will be a push to make sure Chivas de Guadalajara and Club América are in the top flight as well to start. Will this league involve the Canadian teams in MLS, or will Canada push to move them back to be a part of their recently-debuted Canadian Premier League? There will be a great deal to sort out if this is to ever become a reality.” https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/mls-usmnt/2019/9/25/20883416/community-corner-liga-mx-mls-merge-promotion-relegation why would this bring P&R when it sounds like they could be following super rugby type thingy
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“ISL vs I-League battle continues, reveals debate on Power Sportz ISL vs I-League battle continues, reveals debate on Power Sportz New Delhi, Oct 25 (IANS) Indian football is caught up in a whirlwind as two of the country''s premier leagues are fighting for one-upmanship. The battle between Indian Super League (ISL) and I-League to become the nation''s top league continues unabated. Ever since it all started after the launch of ISL in 2013, which saw the light of the day in October 2014, little did the I-League clubs know that they would have more to grind their teeth with the situations that unfolded in the days that followed. On May 17, 2016, the All India Football Federation (AIFF) and IMG-R held a meeting with all the stakeholders of Indian football -- I-League clubs and ISL franchises -- to create a 3 tier division in Indian football. It was also discussed that there would be promotion and relegation between I-League (to be renamed as League 1) and the League 2 while absolving the ISL from any relegation. A hefty franchise fee to join the ISL fraternity was also decided upon. The AFC Champions League slot would go to the I-League champion and the AFC Cup (a prerogative of the Federation Cup winner) would go to the ISL winner. Since then it has snowballed into a whine between I-League and ISL on who would represent India at the Asian Football Confederation (AFC). Meeting in Kuala Lumpur chalks out roadmap The latest in this conundrum is a meeting held in Kuala Lumpur on October 14 among all the stakeholders -- AIFF, AFC, FSDL, I-League clubs and ISL franchises. The AIFF and AFC carved out a roadmap for the future of Indian football, which says that ISL would replace I-League as the top division football league in the country. The latest episode of the flagship debate show on Power Sportz, "Talking Turkey with Kanthi", analysed this whole embittered equation between the I-League and the ISL, talking to some of the vital cogs in this race to become the top-flight league in the country. On being asked whether he is appeased with the outcome of the Kuala Lumpur meeting, Ranjit Bajaj, owner of I-League club Minerva Punjab, said that he would have been happy if the suggestions were as per the previous recommendations. He groused that they would have to wait for five years to buy time, and reckoned that by then the I-League teams would perish. Kanthi D. Suresh, the show host and editor-in-chief of Power Sportz, also asked Gautam Roy, media manager of East Bengal, whether they are happy to shell out the astronomical fee of Rs 15 crore to compete in ISL. Roy was evasive, and seemingly the top I-League club appeared non-committal. Doubts over recommendations being implemented with regard to I-League inclusion The participants in the show, Novy Kapadia and Jaydeep Basu, both eminent football experts, had serious reservations about the recommendations made during the Kuala Lumpur meeting to include I-League on sporting merit. The studio panel had cast their aspersions on the relegation and promotion system and if the ISL teams would allow it. They felt that I-League would cease to exist beyond 2025, with all focus being showered on the high-paying ISL teams. Will investors be optimistic in pumping in more money into the ISL, which anyways is currently a loss-making proposition, asked Kanthi D Suresh. On top of it, the fear of relegation has further eroded its sustainability. I-League clubs, on the other hand, are used to the relegation concept, and they are more resilient to such shocks over the past. Their survival instincts and competitiveness may just give ISL a run for their money! Finally, as Kanthi asked Bajaj whether "he would wait for the recommendations to be implemented fairly", he said that the next 15 days would be very crucial and it would indicate how the roadmap pans out. It seems like the ISL-ILeague battle is here to stay for a while. Where will India reach in the World Cup qualification this time?” https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/isl-vs-ileague-battle-continues-reveals-debate-on-power-sportz/1649043
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“Community Corner: Should Liga MX and MLS eventually merge? Donald Wine II Sep 25, 2019, 8:11am PDT MLS: Leagues Cup-Cruz Azul at LA Galaxy Kelvin Kuo-USA TODAY Sports The idea of Major League Soccer and Liga MX eventually forming a merger has re-entered the public forum after Liga MX president Enrique Bonilla again suggested it was a part of the league’s future just a couple weeks ago. It would be an ambitious plan for the two biggest leagues in CONCACAF to merge and create a superleague that would likely involve a ton of money and create a ton of money. However, the logistics of it will be interesting. MLS is expanding all the way to 30 teams...for now. There could be more after that. Liga MX currently has 19 teams and Acenso MX, the second division, has 14 teams. What this means is at minimum 63 teams could be involved in creating a new combined league that has 2-3 divisions, and it could also be something that eventually creates a promotion-relegation system. There will be questions about how the divisions could be split up and the implications of where the bigger clubs in the United States and Mexico will end up. Will MLS push to have the teams from NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Texas involved in the top division? From Liga MX, there will be a push to make sure Chivas de Guadalajara and Club América are in the top flight as well to start. Will this league involve the Canadian teams in MLS, or will Canada push to move them back to be a part of their recently-debuted Canadian Premier League? There will be a great deal to sort out if this is to ever become a reality.” https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/mls-usmnt/2019/9/25/20883416/community-corner-liga-mx-mls-merge-promotion-relegation
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+xI just realised why this thread is titled "God make it end". It's a direct reference to scott20won's inability to use a hard return or any kind of formatting that would make his posts legible. :hehe:
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I just realised why this thread is titled "God make it end". It's a direct reference to scott20won's inability to use a hard return or any kind of formatting that would make his posts legible. :hehe:
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'It's hard to build a rivalry when you don't play each other' - Steve Hansen has message for Six Nations chiefs
“ENGLAND and New Zealand could enjoy and even greater rivalry had World Rugby's Nations Championship not been scuppered by the northern hemisphere teams, says Kiwi coach Steve Hansen.Slated to start in 2022, the concept was to see teams from north and south play each other annually with the top two to contest an end-of-year final. The plans were controversially scrapped back in June though with Six Nations sides in opposition to the proposed promotion/relegation.A global season, or lack thereof, has long been a problem for the game, with no prospect of establishing one now in sight.That will likely see games between the likes of New Zealand and England maintain their scarcity - Saturday's World Cup semi-final between the two sides in Yokohama just a second meeting since the end of 2014. "I think South Africa is always going to be our biggest rival because of all the history that comes with it and because we play each other so regularly," said Hansen, seeking to guide the All Blacks to a third straight title.”
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“The sky is falling! Making sense of U.S. men's national team fan hysteria Beau Dure Let’s review what we’ve been told we “knew” we had to do to make U.S. men’s soccer better: 1. Get more players to play in Europe and fight for playing time. Check. 2. Increase professional standards in the USA as well. Check. 3. Funnel our best players not just into one academy in Bradenton but a network of academies with direct paths to the professional ranks, bypassing college soccer and putting teens in pro games. Check. 4. Get Sunil Gulati out. Check. And the men’s national team is ... worse? At this rate, by the time we have promotion/relegation and hundreds of free academies that collect the best 7-year-olds from every street and suburb in the country, we’ll be battling Turks and Caicos in Concacaf Nations League C. We know the men’s team has issues. And we’re obsessed with quick fixes for them. It’s a whole chapter in my upcoming book, "Why the U.S. Men Will Never Win the World Cup: A Historical and Cultural Reality Check." Granted, the book isn’t called "Why the U.S. Men Will Never Win in Toronto." That’s a different level of expectation. But if you’ve listened to SiriusXM radio shows or been saddled with a Twitter account, you’ve probably heard all of the quick fix proposals, some better reasoned than others. Tony Meola, the Hall of Fame goalkeeper and one of the more patient radio hosts in the business, finally had to call out a caller who insisted the country had many other players who should’ve been called for the Canada game instead of the players on the field. Name one, Meola said. He couldn’t. Some callers, though, waxed eloquent about Meola’s tenure on the national team in the late 80s through early 00s. In Meola’s day, the bulk of the players played high school and college soccer. Meola played at Virginia for Bruce Arena. Tab Ramos, hailed by many as the man who should’ve been hired as national team coach instead of Gregg Berhalter, played at N.C. State on some very physical teams under the tutelage of George Tarantini, who recently passed away. No one said we should go back to the time of physical college players (though Ramos was, of course, superbly skilled). But if I hear “grit” and “bite” one more time, I’m going to drive 30 miles to the nearest Waffle House. Some callers said Berhalter should’ve stuck with the same lineup that routed Cuba. After Couva, didn’t people lob the opposite criticism at Bruce Arena? Some callers wondered if politics dictated the selection of a bunch of domestic players. But just like the last qualifying cycle, the USA had plenty of players based in top European leagues, while the opponents had a substantial MLS contingent. Meola’s co-host, Brian Dunseth, pointed out the impact MLS has had throughout the region, a fact that was reinforced by the presence of Vancouver Whitecaps academy alumnus Alphonso Davies on the Canadian side. Davies hasn’t played all that much for Bayern Munich this season, but it doesn’t seem to have invoked the same crisis mentality the U.S. soccer community currently feels about Christian Pulisic being caught up in the Chelsea shuffle. (I’ll raise a hand here and confess -- I don’t think Frank Lampard’s delineation between international players and a mere “price tag,” as he referred to Pulisic, bodes well for the young American getting a fair shake at the EPL club. But I don’t think Pulisic is in some awful career-ending run of form, either.) In a similar vein: “The U.S. is fixated on a domestic coach,” said one caller who lives in a country that broke the bank to hire Jurgen Klinsmann and even turned to a European coach, Pia Sundhage, to right the ship when the women’s team was in dire straits. We’re also no closer to a resolution on a national “style,” a discussion that began in earnest when Claudio Reyna trotted out a national curriculum to a bunch of skeptics ranging from the national coaches convention halls to Bruce Arena and Steve Nicol at the neighboring MLS Draft. A few years ago, we all wanted to play like Barcelona. Now we all think Berhalter is some sort of naive rube for daring to play the ball out of the back. The funniest, after at least five hours of angry calls on SiriusXM, was a caller asking why everyone was so calm. That was even funnier than the caller who lamented the cost of travel soccer and then regaled the hosts with tales of taking his kid to Barcelona. It’s not that the criticisms were all easily refuted. Berhalter didn’t exude a lot of passion or give fans any reason to believe he had tried to fire up the team. The long wait to hire a coach, essentially wasting a year of national team development, looks much worse now. And U.S. Soccer keeps putting off the hire of a new CEO, perhaps realizing that critics everywhere have their knives out ready to pounce if they promote Jay Berhalter, Gregg’s brother, or perhaps anyone else whose leadership was called out anonymously in Glassdoor reviews and New York Times interviews. (Less well-developed: the argument that U.S. Soccer waited too long to get a new president. Apparently the split-second in which Sunil Gulati banged his gavel at the end of the 2018 annual general meeting and officially handed off to Carlos Cordeiro within an hour or so of the election was too slow.) What happened in Toronto was relatively simple: A team that had circled this date on the calendar long ago effectively suppressed and overran a team that was far less interested, and the gap in skill wasn’t enough to make the latter team win anyway. We shouldn’t be surprised by the difference in intensity. All we heard going into this game was that the Nations League wasn’t really useful. Canadians couldn’t be blamed for thinking we arrogant neighbors felt this competition and this game were beneath us, and they were ready to teach us a lesson. We can be aggravated that the USA lacked the skills and sense to beat pressure. We’re all supposed to have been teaching those skills for the past decade, whether it’s under the “dribble first, ask questions later” mentality that many coaches have preached or the “death by 1,000 passes” approach in Reyna’s now-discarded curriculum. But are we now supposed to toss aside such grandiose notions? If we have no patience with Berhalter trying to get players to play out of the back, should we just slam the ball upfield to a target forward who can lay the ball off for the magical feet of Pulisic? Should we, in the words of so many callers to English radio shows, quit mucking about and play 4-4-2? U.S. Soccer needs changes from the ground up. MLS has decent academies, but the rest of the youth soccer landscape is a fragmented mess -- not just on the boys’ side, as Paul Riley lamented on Twitter. Some of the lawsuits are unavoidable results of various soccer entrepreneurs’ hubris, but some should’ve been avoided. And one thing that didn’t seem to come up on the radio call-ins: The men are still playing under an expired CBA. That point seems to have been lost while the women’s lawyers claim the team is due eleventy billion dollars in back pay and U.S. Soccer counters by pointing to the existence of the NWSL despite scant investment. Playing without a new contract probably isn’t good for morale. We can identify problems. We can come up with solutions. But a mythical knight galloping across the ocean from Europe isn’t going to prevent more Couvas or Torontos. It’s going to take a bit more than that -- from all of us. (Beau Dure's latest book is "Why the U.S. Men Will Never Win the World Cup: A Historical and Cultural Reality Check." He is also the author of “Single-Digit Soccer: Keeping Sanity in the Earliest Ages of the Beautiful Game” and the host of the podcast “Ranting Soccer Dad,” and has been a longtime youth soccer coach and referee in Northern Virginia.)” https://www.socceramerica.com/publications/article/83966/the-sky-is-falling-making-sense-of-us-mens-nat.html
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+xNot for those expecting pro-rel here its not... Libel is it true that when lowy lost his job at FFA you lost your job too and with all the salt ensuing you have declared war on the new regime?
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Not for those expecting pro-rel here its not...
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+x+xCan just imagine the a-league owners reading that story on Sacramento, their eyes lighting up with dollar signs, and thinking "to hell with pro-rell" ! That’s why they want SE Asian expansion. whats your point? That's certainly one of them... Cheers !
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+xCan just imagine the a-league owners reading that story on Sacramento, their eyes lighting up with dollar signs, and thinking "to hell with pro-rell" ! They already think like that. That’s why they want SE Asian expansion. it is also why Lowy put in a clause to get a % of every franchise fee to FFA. whats your point?
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Can just imagine the a-league owners reading that story on Sacramento, their eyes lighting up with dollar signs, and thinking "to hell with pro-rell" !
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“A great day of celebration in Sacramento was also revealing. Just by paying attention to what was said and what wasn’t, we learned some things about how Sacramento came to be named the newest city in Major League Soccer on Monday. For example: We learned that new Republic FC owner Ron Burkle was really, really, really none too happy about the skyrocketing franchise fee he had to pay to gain entry into MLS. In an interview with my colleague Tony Bizjak and I before Monday’s big announcement, Burkle said he thought the franchise expansion price would be about $100 million. Then he thought it was $150 million. And then it turned into $200 million. Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article236498448.html#storylink=cpy
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“Diego Forlan: 'ISL should have relegation system' Diego Forlan stated that both the leagues- ISL and MLS should implement a relegation-promotion system like the rest of the world. Shivam D Updated on: October 8, 2019 13:42 IST Diego Forlan” https://m.republicworld.com/sports-news/football-news/diego-forlan-isl-should-have-relegation-system.html
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“ISL beats I-League to become India’s top league 18th October 2019 AIFF headquarters By Samindra Kunti October 18 – At last, Indian football has a roadmap. After years of dragging its feet the Indian governing body, AIFF has presented a plan to establish a single league by the 2024-25 season. Indian football has been deeply divided ever since the introduction of the brash Bollywood-styled ISL in 2014. The exact timeline to build the new landscape and resolve the bi-league system still has to be agree upon by the Asian Football Confederation (AFC) but following a meeting at the ruling body’s headquarters between AIFF, the ISL franchises and I-League clubs the roadmap confirms that the ISL will supersede the I-League as India’s prime club league. Furthermore, from the 2022-23 season a relegation and promotion will be introduced between the two leagues and the franchise fee for I-League clubs will disappear. AIFF had long claimed they’d offer a solution to India’s bi-league system, where the I-League runs concurrent with the ISL, modeled after the IPL and backed by Reliance, but in reality the AIFF did very little to resolve the schism in the Indian game. In February 2018, FIFA and the AFC recommended a unified league with 14 teams by 2020-21 in a 14-page report ‘The Sustainable Development of Top-Level Indian Club Football – A Road Map’, but after sitting on the document for nearly 1.5 years, AIFF said it couldn’t implement the recommendations. Earlier this year, I-League clubs staged a revolt against the federation by not participating in the Super Cup in Bhubaneswar, and demanding a meeting with AIFF president Praful Patel. The AIFF boss ensured the clubs he’d grant them a meeting in April, but that was not enough to appease them and they pulled out of the competition. The I-League club represent the old establishment of the Indian game. In 2007, the AIFF rebranded the National Football League, revamping it as the I-League, but i 2010, the AIFF signed a 15-year deal with IMG-Reliance worth Rs 700 crore (€87.5 million), giving IMG-Reliance the right to rebrand the I-League or start a new league altogether. The new roadmap also stipulates that the winner of the ISL will get India’s ticket for the qualifying stages of the Asian Champions League. Victory in the I-League will have to make do with the AFC Cup. “Everyone has to put the good of Indian football at the forefront and take the best decisions to develop Indian club football,” AFC General Secretary Dato’ Windsor John said in a statement. “The AFC will be very much involved to ensure the growth of the game to the next level with the pathway to a single league.” Contact the writer of this story, Samindra Kunti, at moc.llabtoofdlrowedisni@ofni “ http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2019/10/18/isl-beats-i-league-become-indias-top-league/
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“Leeds Rhinos boss Richard Agar is nervous but backs promotion and relegation Published: 06:00 Friday 30 August 2019 Richard Agar. Richard Agar. INTERIM-BOSS RICHARD Richard Agar insists he is in favour of promotion and relegation – despite Leeds Rhinos’ year’s battle against the drop. Rhinos began round 27 – out of 29 – as one of five clubs still in danger of slipping into the Championship. Hull KR's Josh Mantellato is consoled by a fan after the club's relegation in 2016. Hull KR's Josh Mantellato is consoled by a fan after the club's relegation in 2016. The team finishing bottom of Betfred Super League is likely to be relegated with a record points total, but Agar, whose side visit London Broncos for a huge four-pointer on Sunday, is not in favour of a closed shop. “With relegation there is always a chance a good team will go down,” Agar said. “I think it is a bit of the essence of English sport, promotion and relegation. It is a long conversation and there are pros and cons. From a development point of view, it does stop that – we have done it ourselves. “We have recruited late in the season because of the threat of relegation. Maybe it would have been nice for us to find out about some younger players who might be the core of our team for years to come. “We don’t get that luxury now and that’s our fault. “However, there’s some strong, traditional rugby league clubs sitting outside Super League who have got to have some ambition and something to aspire to. We don’t want those clubs to wither on the vine.” Agar stressed: “I don’t see any problem with relegation. It is nervous and I’m not sure it does rugby league clubs any good as businesses and I’m not sure it does junior development any good but, if it gives hope to teams and it’s part of the fabric of British sport, we have to cop it. “But it would be nice to put teams in a stronger position so, if it does happen, they can still strive and survive.” A win this weekend would lift eighth-placed Rhinos four points clear of bottom club London and they already have a much better for and against. Leeds are level on points with Wakefield Trinity and also two ahead of Huddersfield Giants and Hull KR. Nothing will be mathematically decided, but Agar reckons victory at Ealing would effectively make Rhinos safe. He said: “I think, given our points difference and the fact some of the teams around us have to play each other, we would have to have a severe meltdown and some spectacular results go against us with two games to go. “We have got a bunch of people who are very committed to each other and are heading in the right direction. “There’s been some bumps in the road, but we didn’t want to rely on other results. We wanted to rely on ourselves and we have put ourselves in a position where we can control where we finish this year.” Rhinos will not make an announcement on their coaching situation for 2020 until the end of the current Super League campaign. Agar admitted he has been in his role longer than he expected when he was appointed in May, but insisted: “I just want to concentrate on this game. “For me it has been all about avoiding relegation. “We haven’t got that job done yet and we want to get it done before we get into the last couple of rounds. All that stuff [the coaching situation] will work itself out in the long run. “But it is a great club and the job is a wonderful privilege, even in these tough circumstances.” https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos-boss-richard-agar-is-nervous-but-backs-promotion-and-relegation-1-9963330
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”European Leagues detail post-2024 ideas GENEVA: Europe’s top football leagues announced a Champions League vision Friday that rejects radical changes wanted by elite clubs. The 29-nation European Leagues group said its core principles for reform include no new promotion or relegation between the Champions League and Europa League from 2024, and limiting teams to six group games. The proposal detailed at a football conference in Lisbon rejects the European Club Association’s plan for locking in 24 of 32 Champions League places. The ECA also prefers eight-team groups giving clubs 14 games each, squeezing available dates for national leagues and cups. European Leagues said Champions League entries must be based on qualification from the domestic competitions, except for the winners retaining their place. Though mostly supporting the status quo, the 36 member leagues are “open to new innovations,” European Leagues president Lars-Christer Olsson said. Still, changes should be “underpinned by the principles of current sporting merits, the primacy of domestic football, and the need to respect the domestic football calendar beloved by fans,” Olsson said. UEFA’s consultation on potential changes to take effect in 2024 has stalled while clubs and leagues are far apart in their proposals. A meeting between the leaders of UEFA, the ECA and European Leagues was to take place next week at the European football body’s headquarters in Nyon, Switzerland. It was canceled by UEFA President Aleksander Ceferin, knocking back a realistic timetable to decide post-2024 changes potentially into 2021. Leagues officials are using the latest three-year review of the competitions by UEFA to push for what they say is a fairer distribution of prize money. Total revenue from broadcasting and sponsorship sales for the Champions League, Europa League and season-opening Super Cup is currently 3.25 billion euros ($3.6 billion) each season. The 32 Champions League clubs will share 1.95 billion euros this season. That is expected to rise in the next round of commercial sales for 2021-24 when UEFA launches a third club competition, currently called Europa League 2. European Leagues want UEFA to withhold 20 percent of total revenue and share it with other teams not playing in the group stage of the three competitions. The leagues want at least 49 of UEFA’s 55 member federations to be sure of representation with one team or more across the three group stages, helping retain appeal across Europe. This season, countries including Poland, Iceland and Finland no longer have any clubs involved even in the Europa League. Another principle stated Friday is raising status of the fifth-ranked national league - currently France - to have the same UEFA entry rights as the top four of Spain, England, Italy and Germany. It would add one to France’s six-team quota. European Leagues also wants UEFA to stop using a ranking table of clubs’ historical record in more than 60 years of European competition to allocate 30 percent of Champions League prize money. That formula, which the ECA pushed UEFA to agree to in 2016, steers money toward storied clubs. It will pay Real Madrid more than 35 million euros this season regardless of Champions League results. ECA officials also presented their case in Lisbon, and cited issues of “financial distortion and club polarization, declining competitiveness, unexploited potential in a changing media landscape, and limited recognition for club performances in Europe.” More than 230 clubs have been invited to a two-day ECA meeting starting Monday in Geneva.” http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Sports/Football/2019/Sep-07/491249-european-leagues-detail-post-2024-ideas.ashx
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“Premiership Rugby clubs fail in bid to scrap automatic relegation The 13 clubs of Premiership Rugby have admitted defeat in their attempts to scrap relegation from the division to the second-tier Championship. The proposal to end promotion and relegation was intended to boost commercial revenues for England’s top rugby teams, at at time when only one Premiership side – Exeter Chiefs – reported a profit for the 2017-18 season, with the other 12 posting a collective £50m loss. Premiership clubs had hoped to expand the division to 13 clubs for the 2020-21 season, with one team being promoted from the Championship and none relegated at the end of the 2019-20 season. From the 2020-21 season, a play-off would take place between the teams that finished bottom of the Premiership and top of the Championship. Given the relative strength of the 13 Premiership member clubs, this would have even further limited the ability of Championship clubs to access the top division and increase their revenues. Earlier this year, clubs in the Championship threatened legal action if the Premiership pursued its ring-fencing strategy, prompting the top clubs to respond by offering to increase their annual funding of the second-tier by £500,000, from £1.7m to £2.2m. This proposal was rejected by the Championship clubs. According to ESPN, a Premiership spokesperson claimed that this was not a definitive end to the attempts, noting that it was “just a question of timing” and adding that “constructive discussions will continue.” The Premiership Rugby board meets again in October, when it will look to re-energise the conversation. This is not the first time Premiership Rugby has tried to safeguard its top clubs by doing away with relegation. The previous attempt, in 2015, also ended in defeat for the clubs. However, since investment firm CVC Capital Partners acquired a stake in Premiership Rugby late last year, it has doubled-down on efforts to increase the commercial revenue potential of the league and its clubs, meaning the debate is unlikely to go away quietly this time.” https://www.sportbusiness.com/news/premiership-rugby-clubs-fail-in-bid-to-scrap-automatic-relegation/
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“Moreland Zebras have already made history by reaching the last eight of the FFA Cup, but the second-division club from NPL Victoria would rather win promotion to the top tier of the state league than worry about their opponents in the Cup quarter-finals.” https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/ffa-cup-run-is-great-but-we-want-promotion-say-jubilant-moreland-20190822-p52jmg.html
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+x+x“How Getafe went from the depths of the Segunda to the Europa League Karan Tejwani16/08/2019 Madrid, the capital city and commercial hub of Spain, has a rich football history, especially in LaLiga. Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid, the two big-spending Champions League regulars, garner much of the world’s attention, seeing as they have the biggest superstars and perform under the brightest lights on the grandest nights. Around them are some humbler clubs. Rayo Vallecano, who frequently go up and down the divisions, struggle to maintain a constant place in the top-flight. The same goes for Leganés, popularly known as the Cucumbers, who have only just started cementing their place in LaLiga over the last few years. The youngest of the lot is Getafe, the club that wear an all-blue strip and who have been around since 1983. Remarkably, it’s only now, for many, that they’ve started capturing the world’s attention after a historic season in Spain’s top tier. Their neighbouring clubs have been around for decades, many having already celebrated their centenary years, moving to the biggest stadiums and players for massive transfer fees, but in the south-west of the capital, this is a club that is still looking make its mark, having themselves been fighting with mid-table obscurity and relegation fears in recent times. Originally formed in 1923 as Sociedad Getafe Deportivo, they would stutter in the lower divisions, mostly playing amateur football but failing to do much of note. They would change once again after the Spanish Civil War when a group of locals decided to redesign and rebuild, officially re-forming as Club Getafe Deportivo. This team enjoyed a little more success, playing as high as the second tier and even competing against the likes of Barcelona in the Copa del Rey, but in 1982, after several years of financial trouble, they liquidated. Along the way, in 1976, a club called Peña Madridista Getafe (Real Madrid Supporters’ Club of Getafe) was formed. This club played in various divisions until rebranding to Club Deportivo Peña Getafe. For two years they kept that name before merging with the more ancient Club Getafe Promesas. In 1983, after the two forces came together, Getafe Club de Fútbol was officially formed, and thus, their story began. Having started off in the local leagues, they would rise before finding their feet between Segunda División B and the Segunda itself. Promotion to the top-flight was a pipe dream at that point and in the late-90s, the fear of liquidation was rife once again. Nevertheless, they would survive, and in 1998 entered a new phase by inaugurating their new stadium, the 17,000-seater, Coliseum Alfonso Pérez – an open ground where the sun basks in all its glory. Interestingly, the ground is named after Alfonso Pérez, the former Spain and Real Madrid player who never played for or against Getafe but was born in the area. They would continue in the third and second tiers for a while, but in 2004, the momentous happened as they gained promotion to LaLiga, completing the remarkable feat of ascending the Spanish football pyramid in the space of just 20 years. Despite one relegation in 2015/16 – followed by immediate promotion the following campaign – they’ve been a permanent fixture in LaLiga. Relegation battles have been aplenty but they’ve been consistent in beating the drop. Sixth was the highest they finished – that was in the 2009/10 season, but it was the recently concluded campaign where the wider world took notice. For much of their time, it would be fair to say that Getafe have been in the shadows – even the locals ignore them. Last season, in their most successful campaign in history, they enjoyed an average home attendance of 10,836 – the fifth lowest in the division – while the season before that, they were third-lowest. Often, local papers don’t even send reporters to their games for coverage, with Getafe of little interest to the public. For years, many believed they were there to make up the numbers, but over the last 12 months, they proved they weren’t. Read | How the challenge of building a club’s identity in Madrid’s satellite towns could alter Spanish football forever Led by the inimitable José Bordalás, the 55-year-old former forward, they finished fifth in LaLiga, just two points behind Valencia in the final Champions League qualifying place. For so long they were close to making it to Europe’s premier club competition, but even taking part in the Europa League, where the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal, Roma and Borussia Mönchengladbach will be involved, is no mean feat for a club of their size. Bordalás has had a journeyman career in Spain. Over 23 years in management, he has had 15 spells at 12 different clubs, but it is undoubtedly at Getafe where he has celebrated his finest achievements. The suave manager, often seen sporting hipster glasses and a finely-tailored suit on the sidelines, joined in 2016 after Getafe were struggling upon their return to the Segunda. They won just one of their opening eight games and were much closer to an unexpected drop to the third tier than a return to the first. A change in fortunes was immediate as Bordalás and Getafe turned things, ending up in third in the league and only narrowly missing out on automatic promotion. They won the playoffs, overcoming Huesca and Tenerife as the promised land was reached again: LaLiga action would return to the Coliseum. They finished eighth in the following campaign, comfortably beating expectations that they would go back down, instead challenging for a place in the Europa League. The squad he inherited and then developed is a team of work-horses, players that constantly punch above their weight and want to challenge the upper echelons of the league. In the 2018/19 campaign, a combination of effort, players giving it their all, shrewd tactics and a bit of technology propelled them to an all-time high of fifth. At the start of the season, Getafe had the fourth-lowest budget of all 20 teams in LaLiga, with their overall squad’s value almost equivalent to the amount some of the league’s best players such as Lionel Messi or Gareth Bale earned in a month. They also had the sixth-smallest wage structure, mixing it with teams from the lower half rather than the ones they ended up finishing alongside. So how did they do it? Crucially, this is a group of players that came together with a massive point to prove. Many of them came in on the cheap and were misfits at their previous clubs. Their first-choice goalkeeper, David Soria, arrived on a cut-price deal having been discarded at Sevilla. Nemanja Maksimović, once seen as a player with a bright future, came in from Valencia having failed to break into the first-team. Ignasi Miquel, the former Arsenal defender, joined from Málaga, who were relegated in the previous campaign, whilst other shrewd loan deals included the likes of Sebastián Cristóforo and Dimitri Foulquier. It wasn’t just that link that held them together. Many of their players had suffered more losses than wins in their careers, with relegations aplenty on their CVs. Leandro Cabrera came from Crotone, who were struggling in Italy, while Damián Suárez, a player who had been at the club since 2015, had seen relegations with Elche and Getafe. In many ways, it could be said that Bordalás was preparing a team with a fighting spirit that could get them out of a tough spot – but they were joined by some players who wanted to hit new levels, especially 30-year-old Jaime Mata, who was one of the revelations of the season. In the previous year whilst playing for Real Valladolid, Mata was offered a lucrative €6m contract from Zheijang Greentown to play in the Chinese Super League. An offer like that would make anyone’s mouth water, especially if that player is in the second tier. Seeing many players – Javier Mascherano, Yannick Carrasco and Jonathan Viera among others – moving east, the offer would’ve been appealing. But Mata rejected the deal, staying in Spain and spearheading Valladolid’s charge to the promotion playoffs. They failed but Mata was on his way to LaLiga anyway, as Getafe came calling. Read | How Manuel Pellegrini guided Riquelme, Forlán, Senna and co to stunning heights at Villarreal In Madrid, Mata would become Getafe’s main man, with Bordalás giving him all the freedom in attack. With 23 goals in 25 matches in the Segunda, Bordalás knew he had a useful talent to call upon. Over the course of the next year, Mata would spearhead Getafe to success, and while he was vital to an incredible team that was over-achieving, in Bordalás’ eyes, he wasn’t their key cog. That was the defenders and the defensive set-up. For much of the season, Bordalás’ preferred system was a classic 4-4-2, closing down space and making themselves compact, giving little room to the opposition to exploit. This was crucial and the statistics proved that. By the end of the matchday 38, they had conceded just 35 goals – only Diego Simeone’s typically solid Atlético Madrid (29) conceded fewer, while Champions League-chasing Valencia were level. Their midfield assists in this aspect of their play too, doing more work off the ball than on it, making recoveries and pressing high to avoid giving the opposition time and space to work their magic. A key example of this was seen in the early season league match against Real Betis, who they defeated 2-0 on home turf. With the opposition led by Quique Setién and consisting of talented individuals such as William Carvalho and Giovanni Lo Celso, Seville club struggled to create chances and were outplayed defensively. Against pressure, they held their own and came out with a well-deserved victory. Bordalás doesn’t mind the way in which he goes about his business. In an interview with El Mundo, he was philosophical about his methods: “What’s the point of having 30 touches in your half of the pitch without moving forward? People have started to confuse lengthy possession with good football.” The method has cost Bordalás once. That was at Alavés, who sacked him after he had led them to promotion. It’s clear that Getafe aren’t the most attractive of teams, relying on a smash-and-grab style that has worked well with so many pragmatic managers. Contrary to their great defensive numbers, they scored just 48 goals across the 38-game season, the joint-lowest of clubs that qualified for Europe. That has been one of the reasons for the success of Jaime Mata: they have been over-reliant on his goals; without them, they would’ve been nowhere near the spot they finished. He scored 16 league goals last season – a third of his club’s overall tally – and even earned a call-up to the Spain side in March. Alongside Mata is Jorge Molina, the 37-year-old who many touted for a call-up to the national team. Just like Getafe, Molina has had a humble rise to superstardom. The forward is shy off the pitch and has completed several coaching badges as well as holding a sporting director’s license and his rise to the top has been impressive. His life is football. Born in the same region as his manager, he spent much of his years in the lower leagues before joining Real Betis in 2010 and leading them to promotion. He stayed in Seville for six years prior to his Getafe odyssey, and even his wildest dreams would never have conjured up a whole stadium chanting “Jorge, selección!” for a man close to the end of his career. He’s an icon there, a revered figure who guided them when they were in the Segunda. Next year, he’ll take them to Europe. Read | How Marcelino guided a resurgent Valencia to Copa del Rey glory and the Champions League Supporting the two in attack is the hard-working midfield four of Maksimović and Mauro Arambarri, the engine of the team who are just as crucial to their defensive play as they are to their rapid counter-attacks. They’re joined by wingers Francisco Portillo and Foulquier, who Bordalás converted from full-back. The most interesting of all, though, is Mathieu Flamini, who, in his bit-part role, has done incredibly well. The 35-year-old Frenchman has been a rotational player, but when on the pitch, he is a mammoth figure, covering more ground than any other player on the team and providing vital experience from his time at the likes of Arsenal and AC Milan. Together, this well-knit group picked up some wonderful results on their way to European football: wins against fellow European-chasers Sevilla, Espanyol and Athletic, draws against Valencia and Real Madrid, and crucial results at difficult venues such as those of Real Betis, Villarreal and Alavés. Despite his pragmatic approach, Bordalás isn’t a relic of days gone, utilising some modern technology to further Getafe’s progress. Jordi Cruyff, who has made great strides in Israel with Maccabi Tel-Aviv, has his own legacy in Spanish football. While working in Israel, he teamed up with Zone7, a data analytics company run by former Israeli security service agents. He helped the company land some gigs in Spanish football and Getafe have been using their resources to design training sessions to ensure peak fitness across the season and help their players avoid injuries. They became the first club in Europe to use the software and it has been reported that many other clubs – especially in England and Italy – are taking note having seen the dividends it has reaped. “After a first test season, where we help them a lot to improve their applications in football, it has been in this one when we have started to really bear fruit to their injury prevention programs”, says Javier Vidal, the fitness coach at Getafe, who has worked alongside Bordalás to convince the hierarchy to invest further. In the end, the results were clear: statistics showed that Getafe suffered fewer muscle injuries – just eight – than most LaLiga clubs, while the likes of Real Madrid and Atlético Madrid suffered at least 30 each, according to El Mundo. The system works like many other modern-day modes of technology in sport. Athletes place a device under their playing shirts, which collects various variants of data ranging from speed to pulse rate to distances covered, all while being linked to the medical and physiological history of the individual. It has worked a treat for Getafe; in the future, it is certain that Zone7’s name will be spread by Europe’s elite. The journey and subsequent success have been a culmination of several years of hustle for players and staff alike. From Bordalás’ unfancied methods and Mata rejecting money and favouring loyalty to Molina’s constant fights in the depths of Spanish football and earning a much-loved point against local rivals Real Madrid in LaLiga, the future looks bright if they can consolidate this season. “There are no egos in this team,” says Molina, and it shows in how they’ve performed since returning to LaLiga under Bordalás. It isn’t easy to finish eighth and then fifth in the two years after promotion, but Getafe have done just that. Now they need to take the next step. More cut-price deals and loan moves have been made as they prepare for Europe as Getafe, a club of modest origins with fans that dared to dream, aim for new highs.” https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/08/16/how-getafe-went-from-the-depths-of-the-segunda-to-the-europa-league/ Great to see dour defensive teams going so well. As a fan who gets sick of the constant Foz like "play like Barca" lines trotted out all the time, it's joy to see some different styles of football getting recognition. It's only defensive if you can't break it down. Otherwise, it's good tactics.
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