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scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 3:16 PM
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I wouldn't be using all three colours at once, at least not as major elements.

Home all green shirts, shorts and socks with red secondary detail, away red with yellow secondary.
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paladisious - 3 Nov 2016 3:28 PM
scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 3:16 PM

I wouldn't be using all three colours at once, at least not as major elements.

Home all green with black secondary, shirts, shorts and socks, away red with yellow secondary.

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kavorka - 2 Nov 2016 9:23 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would you set up a team in a state that:

1. has no stadium to play out of (im talking about a rectangular boutique one)
2. has an almost zero population growth
3. has little to no industry (ie for sponsorship)

it's madness. 

I agree.

If they don't manage to get the stadium right ie rectangular, then it will fail. 

But yeah lack of 2 and 3 is very concerning. Lining us up for a CCM v 2.0 only difference being that CCM actually have advantage of a rectangular stadium and room for population growth which results in more potential sponsorship from industry. Won't get that in Tasmania. You will be soundly relying on backers with deep pockets as they will be making losses every year. And if they treat the club on the scruff of an oily rag, barely spending any money on players or development then what good is it having them in when another area can do the job a lot better.



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paladisious - 2 Nov 2016 11:08 PM
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They key is backing.

Having a half-billionaire that was one of the original Victory board members on board changes everything.

It shouldn't though. THey had that up at the Gold Coast and look how that panned out. A half billionaire isn't even that much when you are looking at losses of $3m+ per year. It wont take them long to run the club at an absolute minimum which just adds to the burden of fixtures with little value.

Outside of club fans, who actually gets excited about watching teams like CCM and Wellington. Both clubs running on the bare minimum to minimise losses as they know they have no real chance of spending big to make big.

The novelty will wear out after a year or two and it will be like "who's playing saturday arvo? Tasmania vs Newcastle? Boring, dont care"

If on the other hand these new owners were to spend big on players then it would be a different story, but i doubt it very much so. This Tasmania team would be a good fit for A2 but surely not the A-league.
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Davo1985 - 3 Nov 2016 3:52 PM
paladisious - 2 Nov 2016 11:08 PM

It shouldn't though. THey had that up at the Gold Coast and look how that panned out. A half billionaire isn't even that much when you are looking at losses of $3m+ per year. It wont take them long to run the club at an absolute minimum which just adds to the burden of fixtures with little value.

Outside of club fans, who actually gets excited about watching teams like CCM and Wellington. Both clubs running on the bare minimum to minimise losses as they know they have no real chance of spending big to make big.

The novelty will wear out after a year or two and it will be like "who's playing saturday arvo? Tasmania vs Newcastle? Boring, dont care"

If on the other hand these new owners were to spend big on players then it would be a different story, but i doubt it very much so. This Tasmania team would be a good fit for A2 but surely not the A-league.

I dont think it is about Tasmania vs Newcastle.
It would be about creating extra "big fixtures" for MV and MC.  No one gives a crap about Wolves vs Jets. But you all want it because it gives SFC and WSW "big fixtures". 
This is why South Melbourne and Shire are the best options imo. FFA needs to think of big games, that is why derbies are on the agenda. 

To be honest Tasmania vs MV or MC is better than any fixture involving Canberra. 
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scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 10:30 AM
paladisious - 3 Nov 2016 10:09 AM

Let the kit designing begin.....


I would just straight up copy Portugal 2010 world cup kits, but reverse them to play at home in the white and away in red top

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then add the "Devils" , "Tigers" or "Red Lions"

I like Red Lions 

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No love for Timbers? Is Decentric the only person living or from Tasmania on the forums? Would like to see what the locals think on colours and insignia. I'd prefer Devils or Timbers personally but I have no connection to Tas. 

Why does their flag have a lion anyway? Is it just a throwback to English/colonial heritage? If so much prefer Devils as an animal or Timbers. Surely would represent the area better than another lion. 
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Decentric - 3 Nov 2016 8:14 AM
inala brah - 3 Nov 2016 1:01 AM

Absolutely.

AFL only make noises about an AFL team in Tasmania when  they hear a HAL team may be set up. The upper echelons of AFL take Tasmanian support for the sport for granted. They have decimated the local Australian rules comp.

Comparatively, the upper echelons of FFA have been inclusive by having meaningful NPL games in the national NPL Cup and the national FFA Cup.

We see a lot more of a FFA presence in Tasmania than AFL. FFA's deeds are greater than AFL's words. 

But where do you think Football will sit if AFL make a "strategic decision" to bring in a new team in Tasmania a few years after an A-league team? At a time when the novelty factor of the a-league team will have worn off and will just be starting to entrench in some of the rusted on fans, then all of a sudden boom! Afl in and Tasmania football club will become a shadow.

I don't think looking at it purely due to lack of competition as a reason, although no doubt can be considered marginally if really on the fence about it. End of the day, saying that we are the only one with a professional team down there doesn't stop AFL coming in a few years later, especially if they see Tasmanians getting behind football. And the money the AFL has will be easy for them to throw at it if need be. THey already know there is a supporter base down there in waiting. Unlike the GWS move which is more of an attempted decade long play.
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View from the fence - 3 Nov 2016 5:11 PM
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View from the fence - 3 Nov 2016 5:11 PM
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I want a paddlepop all of a sudden
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Davo1985 - 3 Nov 2016 3:52 PM
paladisious - 2 Nov 2016 11:08 PM

It shouldn't though. THey had that up at the Gold Coast and look how that panned out. A half billionaire isn't even that much when you are looking at losses of $3m+ per year. It wont take them long to run the club at an absolute minimum which just adds to the burden of fixtures with little value.

Outside of club fans, who actually gets excited about watching teams like CCM and Wellington. Both clubs running on the bare minimum to minimise losses as they know they have no real chance of spending big to make big.

The novelty will wear out after a year or two and it will be like "who's playing saturday arvo? Tasmania vs Newcastle? Boring, dont care"

If on the other hand these new owners were to spend big on players then it would be a different story, but i doubt it very much so. This Tasmania team would be a good fit for A2 but surely not the A-league.

I think the 'boring - don't care' tags is more related to the form and style of play of the teams. When Brisbane and CCM were dominating and Victory and Sydney were struggling a Victory vs Adelaide game had little interest for the Sydney based neutrals I knew. I would imagine the same would have been the case in Melbourne for a Sydney vs Newcastle game.  

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scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 3:56 PM
Davo1985 - 3 Nov 2016 3:52 PM

I dont think it is about Tasmania vs Newcastle.
It would be about creating extra "big fixtures" for MV and MC.  No one gives a crap about Wolves vs Jets. But you all want it because it gives SFC and WSW "big fixtures". 
This is why South Melbourne and Shire are the best options imo. FFA needs to think of big games, that is why derbies are on the agenda. 

To be honest Tasmania vs MV or MC is better than any fixture involving Canberra. 

All it would take is for MC to go to the FFA and say that a 3rd team would stiffle their growth and it would quash the idea of SM coming unfortunately 
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soil - 3 Nov 2016 4:58 PM
scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 10:30 AM


No love for Timbers? Is Decentric the only person living or from Tasmania on the forums? Would like to see what the locals think on colours and insignia. I'd prefer Devils or Timbers personally but I have no connection to Tas. 

Why does their flag have a lion anyway? Is it just a throwback to English/colonial heritage? If so much prefer Devils as an animal or Timbers. Surely would represent the area better than another lion. 

No he isn't, as I am a 2nd and there may be others.

I actually don't mind most of the colour suggestions.  Name wise Devils has been used twice before (basketball and VFL state league about 10-15 years ago) so it wouldn't be considered.  Timbers would be too divisive given the neverending forestry "debate" and I don't think a Lion has much connection, whereas it may have 60-80 years ago.

Similar to WSW during it's formation I would think the best way to go is to get some fan groups together to give suggestions for names and other important details.





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Personally I think CFG made FFA sign a "no new team for x years" when they took over.
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Davo1985 - 3 Nov 2016 5:25 PM
Decentric - 3 Nov 2016 8:14 AM

But where do you think Football will sit if AFL make a "strategic decision" to bring in a new team in Tasmania a few years after an A-league team? At a time when the novelty factor of the a-league team will have worn off and will just be starting to entrench in some of the rusted on fans, then all of a sudden boom! Afl in and Tasmania football club will become a shadow.

I don't think looking at it purely due to lack of competition as a reason, although no doubt can be considered marginally if really on the fence about it. End of the day, saying that we are the only one with a professional team down there doesn't stop AFL coming in a few years later, especially if they see Tasmanians getting behind football. And the money the AFL has will be easy for them to throw at it if need be. THey already know there is a supporter base down there in waiting. Unlike the GWS move which is more of an attempted decade long play.

the same bunch of crap we heard about the Central Coast and the NRL for many years now, wont happen for the same reasons

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Lol AFL is never going to put a team there whilst they have the sweet deal that is the status quo.

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aufc_ole - 3 Nov 2016 8:39 PM
scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 3:56 PM

All it would take is for MC to go to the FFA and say that a 3rd team would stiffle their growth and it would quash the idea of SM coming unfortunately 

Hard to justify when Yoshi became a fan and bumped MC's supporter base by 100%
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soil - 3 Nov 2016 6:25 PM
View from the fence - 3 Nov 2016 5:11 PM

I want a paddlepop all of a sudden

don't say this shit, Iive in Europe and would fair dinkum kill someone for a rainbow paddlepop some days
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bohemia - 3 Nov 2016 9:58 PM
soil - 3 Nov 2016 6:25 PM

don't say this shit, Iive in Europe and would fair dinkum kill someone for a rainbow paddlepop some days

Sorry :(

Know the feel.

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Glh37 - 3 Nov 2016 8:50 PM
soil - 3 Nov 2016 4:58 PM

No he isn't, as I am a 2nd and there may be others.

I actually don't mind most of the colour suggestions.  Name wise Devils has been used twice before (basketball and VFL state league about 10-15 years ago) so it wouldn't be considered.  Timbers would be too divisive given the neverending forestry "debate" and I don't think a Lion has much connection, whereas it may have 60-80 years ago.

Similar to WSW during it's formation I would think the best way to go is to get some fan groups together to give suggestions for names and other important details.





Thankkss. Would be interested to see locals response if they get shortlisted. Why would having past clubs using Devils mean it won't be considered? 
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soil - 3 Nov 2016 11:22 PM
bohemia - 3 Nov 2016 9:58 PM

Sorry :(

Know the feel.

I used to buy them in bulk, they are so good! Note to self, buy some on the weekend. 



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I feel like they should be called Tasmania United or something that suggests togetherness given they'd likely be playing out of two cities.

Nickname them the Devils, It actually means something and is associated with a lot more than just a couple of defunct sporting teams from over a decade ago.

I feel like for this to be successful, they'd almost need to do what Perth have done and sign a few Tasmanian players. I'm sure I'm missing some but the only past A-League player who springs to mind is Jermey Walker. Having said that it's a great opportunity to sign local talent.

I'm not convinced that they're a team you'd want to have as the 11th or 12th license, but they've got government support and the right people involved.
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Why do they HAVE to play out of two cities or even be called Tasmania for that matter? The BBL team is called Hobart and only plays out of that city and they are a great success for the state. Not saying there shouldn't be opportunities to include the North of Tasmania but if it complicates things with venues then the north should just be told to deal with it and be grateful they are getting a team.

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Maybe if Tasmania got the fuck over bickering between its 2 biggest villages it could actually achieve something
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Why do they HAVE to play out of two cities or even be called Tasmania for that matter? The BBL team is called Hobart and only plays out of that city and they are a great success for the state. Not saying there shouldn't be opportunities to include the North of Tasmania but if it complicates things with venues then the north should just be told to deal with it and be grateful they are getting a team.

Agree

Worked with Wellington when they first came out




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Queensland Roar and North Queensland Fury, Central Coast same same

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As mentioned before, fan forums to decide on details. It's an obvious and easy way to build support before the ball is even kicked.

Maybe they can be called the "Loggerheads" as well to take into account their division and timber industry :)
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bohemia - 4 Nov 2016 4:27 AM
Maybe if Tasmania got the fuck over bickering between its 2 biggest villages it could actually achieve something

Isn't that the sort of thing you want to build off when expanding a sport league?
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scott21 - 3 Nov 2016 1:47 PM

Maybe Decentric can confirm, but green is that Tassie colour? The original Tassie bid was based on green and white.

Offers a bit of difference to the rest of the league too.

Green is the Tasmanian state team colour.
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Glh37 - 3 Nov 2016 8:50 PM
soil - 3 Nov 2016 4:58 PM

No he isn't, as I am a 2nd and there may be others.

I actually don't mind most of the colour suggestions.  Name wise Devils has been used twice before (basketball and VFL state league about 10-15 years ago) so it wouldn't be considered.  Timbers would be too divisive given the neverending forestry "debate" and I don't think a Lion has much connection, whereas it may have 60-80 years ago.

Similar to WSW during it's formation I would think the best way to go is to get some fan groups together to give suggestions for names and other important details.





Anguazi is a former Tassie state league player I think.

There is also another poster called Tassie Boy or something similar who posted in another thread I started about Melb City Youth playing Tassie.
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