So salty hurr hurr durr. 

Chuck us the crystal ball when youre done with it.

Imagine how much better his stats would be if:
Carl had not have lost most of last year through illness and Vukovic had this years form last year.
Both of these factors were totally out of his control and unforeseeable.
But Kevin is not into stats - just trophies.

No need to be upset. 

Im not upset. I just want the crystal ball to see city lose the title (with the most expensive squad) now, instead of waiting until end of season.

Obviously dont need a crystal ball to see where the pissants ends up.

I can only report on what has happened, not "would have/could have"s.

That said, I do believe that if Ange had more time at Victory before moving on, his overall average would have climbed higher.
Unfortunately, i didn't record the detailed statistics on possession, etc until the 2013/14 season, so Ange's time at Brisbane isn't included in his "detailed statistics" section. Would be interesting to see what his stats would be like if they were included.

Muscat has undoubtedly done well, but he also has the advantage of only having worked in what is arguably Australia's most successful club. I think a better judgement of his managerial ability would be seeing him manage a team without the resources Victory have. I still think the benchmark for coaching in the A-League is what Ange did with Brisbane, and what Graham Arnold did with CCM, and is now starting to do with SFC. 

I wouldn't put Muscat's name up for national team coaching just yet. Remember how Popovic was mentioned as a possible NT coach after one and a half seasons? He's not doing too well now, and his man management has been shown to be quite poor. Give it a few more seasons and then maybe Muscat might deserve a chance, however I still think Graham Arnold is the better manager. 

Top 6, see in the finals. :D

If Muscat ever wants to be the Australian Coach he needs to stop acting like a baby on the sidelines, its a bad look in the A-League and can not be tolerated at a national level. 

But in international football we would have independent refs rather than the anit-Victory same faces that ref the A-league week in week out.
(You know the ones - they give red cards based on who you are rather than what you did).
Hence with proper refs thiis would not be an issue.
Post match - he is more mature than most other coaches.

Is getting fined for calling referees cheats a plus or minus ?

Would not change a thing, he is always acting like a baby and complaining on the sideline, even when they are wining. At a national level he would be just as bad or worse due to Asian teams wasting time and faking injuries, he would go off his head.

Post match he is fine and other coaches could learn a thing a two from him. 

You probably have a point with the time wasting in international games.
He has improved but that issue would really get under his skin.

Successful coaching in the A-League at the moment seems to me to be almost entirely based on picking the right players rather than a coaches wonderful skill with tactics, training etc.  MV is playing great football and working well together, a credit to Muscat.  But if I was going to pick one real strength of MV this season it is individual quality of their players, basically exactly the same with Sydney.  Most of that quality I don't think has anything to do with the training of them,  but just good recruitment and team building.

Not sure how that figures into the argument of who is the best coach, i just think its interesting that there is such a huge gulf in teams individual quality in a capped league.  I don't for one second believe it is the coaches magical man-management skills creating that gap.  Seems kinda sad.

Why? You dont think recruitment and team building are fundamental to what makes a good manager? 

Recruitment is one of the main criteria when assessing a good manager. Kev gets 10/10 for recruitment. Among the greats he has signed - the greatest defender to ever grace this league - MDP... then he also brought in FBK, Berisha, valeri Georgevski, the list goes on.... even ingham was a masterstroke in this moneyball league. 

"I don't for one second believe it is the coaches magical man-management skills creating that gap."

Lol. You underestimate a good leader. Thats how we decimated you guys so bad in that last gf at aami. 

^ add to that attracting players like Troisi and Rojas, who want to get themselves back on track. 

umad

-PB

Nobody has argued the case for JVS or his no name replacement.
Funny how all those City fans who were so vocal at the start of the year are so quiet lately.
N I K  O where are you ? I miss your CHECKMATES (lol)
At least some of the non Victory and Sydney fans are still about having a go (credit them).
You support your team through thick and thin.
(Unless of course you are like most City fans - they usually just disappear like the team if the going gets tough).

This shows to me that Valeri carries your team and Muscat doesn't have the ability to get results with one player missing.

This. He gets away with everything while Amor got a bullshit suspension for touching a fourth official in a non aggressive way.

No love for Muscat!!!!

But he is the best villain, great entertainer, A mad dog on the sideline, a cultured, but don't 'piss me off' persona on the media conferences.
He is an excellent coach & has done a great job at the Victory (grrrr, that was hard to say). His team play very good football.

Most coaches should be able to adjust for a long term injured player - it is part of football.

Carl situation was very different to a normal injury. He was unable to play - but for how long ?
If you twist an angle the coach will know how long you are out for based on medical advice and they can plan around it.
With Carl last season - nobody knew how long he would be out for - that it highly unusual.
In hind-sight Muscat should have brought a player in to cover - he did not and it cost Victory the season.
The situation was compounded as Milligan going o/s at the start of the season.
Similarly with Danny - how does a coach deal with that situation. It was most unfortunate and out of his control - not like a standard injury to a player.

So last year - was Muscat the best coach in the a-league = no.
He has learnt from this - improved - as all good coaches should.
I was suggesting he is the best coach about now - not 12 months ago.

Wait a second... Are you saying that theres a pro-muscat-anti-amor conspiracy going on?

Shit poster at it again. 

It is true that no one knew how long Valeri was going to be out for but Muscat should had adapted to the situation. The loss of one player should not make a good side a poor one.

Muscat is also not the best coach. Graham Arnold is. No team in A-League history is as good as his Sydney team right now and as much as I would hate to admit it I think Sydney can go the whole season undefeated.

I have never said there was a conspiracy. I don't think Amor's suspension was fair when Muscat can abuse everyone and call them every word under the sun and get off scott free.

Arnie, 5 points better

I do think recruitment is a massive part of good management, just kind of pointing it out, it seems a bit sad to me that tactics, style and training sort of thing which I love are being a little bit overshadowed at the moment by individual quality.  Also makes it hard for me to judge managers, as players quality has so much to do with them, and is so variable in the A league from year to year that a long term record is needed to really judge recruitment properly.  I do think Muscat has done really well so far but just hard to tell the real answer to the 'best coach' question.

The man management bit, I massively disagree.  I think there are sort of extreme cases where the difference between coaches man management 'skills' matters a lot.  Most especially with under-confident youth (actually probably young players in general) or people facing personal crises etc.  But I think that overall it is one of the most overhyped myths in football.  You get a team of professional football players, many of whom have been so for almost a decade or longer, and think that a coach will inspire them with their excellent man management... its just a myth born out of over romanticised views on sport.  Any comment a coach makes that is actually of practical benefit to a players game (eg where they are making errors of judgement or mistiming runs etc) has a hundred times the effect of things like natural leadership motivating them.  Its not nothing but I just think it gets way overhyped.

As AM instead of Rogic? 

Arnie