"It's accepted inside FFA that the current model is broken"

Is it the Australian soil that makes the AFL / NRL model work for those codes. Or is there something they have that our game doesn't?

Football has always been the black sheep of football codes. So far all we have done is spent millions of dollars on white paint

Yes, Australian soil that says we are a small population with limited sponsorship for so many professional football teams.

And yet the A League still has a $57m a year TV deal, we have managed to get 60k to a single game, two clubs have 20k members, and we have a whole line up of wealthy owners willing to pump money into the game (under the right circumstances). With a better model there is plenty of room for growth

Maybe you should look at reality instead of hypothesised potential

Reality is it doesn't have $57 mill a year yet, try $40 which isn't anywhere near enough to feed a professional league and so many other mouths. That's the reality even if you keep denying it to yourself..

Of course $40m isn't enough for a professional league. That's the whole fucking point of this thread. The FFA need a new equity model

There is absolutely no need for the FFA to pay the clubs anything above minimal which based on NQF is about $3m. The rest is voluntary owner investment, sponsorship, commercial partners, merchandise, members and gate keepings. Also other ventures which one can do when they own the club

The money and interest is very clearly there. Its just that it isn't coming through a central pool

Your focus on the $40m is denying the existence of the likes of City Football Group. Even the FFA admit their model is broken

On top of that, the $57 mill per annum doesn't actually exist.

The first year of the TV deal, starting next season is $50 mill (minus $6 mill in contra which leaves $44 mill to distribute to clubs).

Really ? where did those figures come from ? what is the "contra" made up of ?

What portion of that is FTA?

The FFA have admitted nothing. That quote is from a report lol.

You will recall that no FTA bid was forthcoming as they were too focused on the BBL.

What kinda clueless twit do you have to be to still defend the model lol

-PB

I guess what's even more laughable is what kind of cluesless twit would want an NSL type model and still believe A-League type money would keep rolling in lol

Ah there it is...  Black and white.  It's either HAL or NSL, couldn't possibly be another way of doing it, could there?

That's a bingo.

Either Lord Franks way or no way.

-PB

Are you suggesting there are more two ways if running football in this country? Shocked.jpeg

That's why I said $57m instead of $50m

Bottom line is operating on Australian soil doesn't make our commercial value worth less because it is still measured in Aussie dollars. Its legal tender

I find it laughable that people like paulc point out the multiple codes and financial limitations, then conclude we need to stick with a model where an estimated $80m is not enough to go past 10 teams

The A League under the right model can be viable

Ok, although at this point, $7 mill per annum in additional broadcasting revenue looks out of reach (not by a lot, but it's probably going to come under that).

And there it is folks. Ben again deciding what he would like someones else's conclusion should be to suit his agenda knowing very well there's enough dopey sheep out there who will follow. Never said there's only two ways Benny,never. However one of the more often talked about ways expressed by many of the kulchered here includes - small grounds, less facilities, crowd size not important, ratings are irrelevant, no salary caps, don't need W-League, give clubs total control, p&r, etc etc ......has no resemblance to the NSL though hey? lol. 

Lmao what bollucks. You're the biggest Lowy apologist on the forums. You excuse any criticism because things are still better than the NSL which is your only criteria 

You put more than one sentence together. Congratulations.

A well administered, independent league, consisting of a variety of clubs with different ownership models, playing in size appropriate venues, with wage budgets in line with earnings, a stand-alone second division with conditional promotion/relegation, women's league operating separately...  That's not the NSL...  That's the league system in just about every other country on the planet...  Still, we're different, because...  Frank says so?

#kulcha