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+x+x+xRhetorical question. Why can't we just have all the bids that meet the criteria, without jeopardising an exisitng franchise? Seriously, if Wolves, Southern Sydney ( without playing in the Gong ), Geelong, South Melbourne, Tassie and Canberra all meet the requirements, bloody well put them in. I know the answer, however FFA must be the only organisation in the world who are happy to stifle growth than promote it. Does my head in. For the life of me, we have our NT coach saying we need more teams for the development of our players, and it's got to a critical stage. C'mon Gallop and Lowy, pull your fingers out. I'd suggest a lot of the bids sustainability would be reliant on the annual A-league funding from the TV deal, which afaik only has provisions in the contract for 2 extra teams, as well as the current clubs wanting far more. The current model sucks. We need more teams to get more TV funding, we need more TV funding to sustain more teams. Fox value 6th game @ $6m per season, so expansion ain't happening For those who want 14, have a guess what Fox would pay for a 7th. the 6th game will include 3rd sydney and 3rd melbourne the 7th game will include 2nd brisbane and 4th sydney/melbourne. yes the increase from fox wont cover the expenses of the new clubs however these additions have the potential to impact the league the same way the introduction of wsw impacted on sydney fc, boosting interest in the game across the whole competition.
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+x+x+x+xRhetorical question. Why can't we just have all the bids that meet the criteria, without jeopardising an exisitng franchise? Seriously, if Wolves, Southern Sydney ( without playing in the Gong ), Geelong, South Melbourne, Tassie and Canberra all meet the requirements, bloody well put them in. I know the answer, however FFA must be the only organisation in the world who are happy to stifle growth than promote it. Does my head in. For the life of me, we have our NT coach saying we need more teams for the development of our players, and it's got to a critical stage. C'mon Gallop and Lowy, pull your fingers out. I'd suggest a lot of the bids sustainability would be reliant on the annual A-league funding from the TV deal, which afaik only has provisions in the contract for 2 extra teams, as well as the current clubs wanting far more. The current model sucks. We need more teams to get more TV funding, we need more TV funding to sustain more teams. Fox value 6th game @ $6m per season, so expansion ain't happening For those who want 14, have a guess what Fox would pay for a 7th. the 6th game will include 3rd sydney and 3rd melbourne the 7th game will include 2nd brisbane and 4th sydney/melbourne. yes the increase from fox wont cover the expenses of the new clubs however these additions have the potential to impact the league the same way the introduction of wsw impacted on sydney fc, boosting interest in the game across the whole competition. If that were true, the FFA would do it.
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I'd call them Souths United (I know there's already a club w/that name in the Brisbane PL, but so what...who remembers the Melbourne City Soccer Club that CFG forced to change their name?)
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+xI'd call them Souths United (I know there's already a club w/that name in the Brisbane PL, but so what...who remembers the Melbourne City Soccer Club that CFG forced to change their name?) With a little luck, about half the clubs will end up being called United.
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Chinese developers getting some more pollie action going 
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Georges River Council throws its support behind proposed new A-League team
Georges River Council has formally put their support behind a proposed new A-League franchise that would take in the St George area. The franchise, with the working title of Southern Expansion, was launched in March by St George football icon and football commentator Les Murray and former Socceroo Craig Foster, with the bid financially backed by Chinese property giant JiaYuan Group.
It would cover the St George, Sutherland Shire and Illawarra regions and the club plans to have A-League and W-League teams playing out of the three areas, with an aim to be ready for the 2018-19 season.
The club indicated an interest to use Jubilee Oval for some of its games and approached council for its support. During the May council meeting last week Georges River Council Administrator John Rayner moved an administrator motion to support the plan.
Council will now write to Football Federation Australia showing its support. During the council meeting a updated report on the management of Jubilee Oval was also presented. The council overtook the management of the oval after the lease with the St George Illawarra Dragons ended in February.
Since then council has taken over the current Ticketek agreement and negotiated a catering deal with Venues Live. Discussions are still underway for the Dragons hire of the site with a draft venue hire agreement sent to the club in April. Winner of Official 442 Comment of the day Award - 10th April 2017
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Wow, what a surprise. Local council happy for a potential new customer to come on board and give them money.
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+xWow, what a surprise. Local council happy for a potential new customer to come on board and give them money. What a surprise Local Council and Property Developer singing from the same songbook
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Southern Expansion has expressed its “deep disappointment” that Football Federation Australia has decided to reject its offer to immediately enter a team in the W-League in season 2017-18.The group has now written to FFA’s Chief Executive David Gallop urging the FFA to reconsider the decision.
Southern Expansion’s CEO Chris Gardiner said:
“Frankly, we find it hard to understand. The W-League has a 9-team competition, the A-League a 10-team competition. The FFA says it wants to grow the Women’s game and Southern Expansion is in a position to fund the team, at levels that meets the best benchmarks set by Professional Footballers’ Australia and with a marquee player, but the FFA won’t even discuss the matter.
“Those of us who support Women’s Football were miffed by the publicity given to the AFL’s belated entry into women’s sport. Women’s Football in Australia has been around a long time, Australia’s competition is strong and it should and could be stronger. Southern Expansion can certainly make it stronger.”
In a letter sent to Mr Gallop Southern Expansion’s Chairman Les Murray said:
"So well have our preparations progressed that we are confident that, were it to be available, we could immediately establish and sustainably operate a team in the national W-League … We believe our strongly-backed Southern Expansion playing in the Southern Region is the Club to allow you to expand the W-League in the 2017-18 season”.
Gardiner added:
“We would be playing out of a region with a very solid female player base. It has two NPL and one State League women’s sides – the Illawarra Stingrays, Sutherland FA, and St George FC. There are grounds available, and even though most existing W-League players are signed for the season, we can put a competitive team together at short notice and build it as a title contender in subsequent years.
“Why would any peak body decline even to discuss an offer to bring the competition up to 10 teams to match the men’s competition? “Deep disappointment, indeed dismay, best describes how we feel about the unwillingness to even talk to us about our solid plans of growing the Women’s game – that’s why we’re urging the FFA to reconsider this decision.”
https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/ffa-reject-southern-expansion-bid-462166
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I'm not as vehemently against this proposal as most people seem to be but this is a good decision. This is just a group trying to bully their way into a prime position. The FFA have already denied other a-league bids w-league licences. If they the W-league up to one in this manner they will suddenly have 15 more W-league sides forced upon them.
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+xWow, what a surprise. Local council happy for a potential new customer to come on board and give them money. Wow what a surprise the council has approved something that EVEN the new bidders are not sure is going to be approved yet.
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The thing is we should be encouraging the bidding teams to enter into the W-League and NPL/Youth league asap (if not already involved) to help build their bids up. Both are a much faster and less expensive entry point and both enable this teams/clubs to start to build. We should be encouraging all bids to be successful, not trying to tear them down and play them off against each other. Just give them different time periods in a staggered introduction. Now do I want the southern expansion in the a-league, no not really if it involves Wollongong, but I think it is a good idea to add them into the W-League to help build their club/team and their A-league bid. Ideally I would love to see all potential bidders entering in W-League and Youth teams for the forthcoming season.
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Lol
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Well, the FFA would probably have the Mariners W-League application already. (Midfielder confirm?)
So all W-League licenses would be aligned with A-League clubs (excepting Canberra Utd).
No brainer.
And who wants a third Sydney team? Not me.
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WL teams don't need to be linked to the A-League.
Brisbane (SEQ) needs another WL team
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+xLol"One does not simply walk into Australian football" Hmmm Wonder who has the most skeletons
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Seems to me if FFA give the greenlight to a new W-league team they would inadvertently signal the rest of the bidders who they favour for likely expansion whilst giving these guy 1 foot in the door.
Finally the FFA had a logical decision
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+xSeems to me if FFA give the greenlight to a new W-league team they would inadvertently signal the rest of the bidders who they favour for likely expansion whilst giving these guy 1 foot in the door. Finally the FFA had a logical decision On the money. Imagine the uproar if the subsequent A-League bid was overlooked. How long would the consortium continue to bankroll a W-League side then?
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Mariners are bidding. WP don't have a team and Canberra have no A-League team.
There is no reason that a WL team means you should have an AL team. Regardless of this bid or others. Same for the men.
Pro rel should be the long term goal and men's and women's football shouldn't be linked because of that.
If clubs want a team, go for it. If not, who cares?
It's this stupid thinking that means the PFA want a fully funded women's 2nd division taking money from the men.
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+x+xSeems to me if FFA give the greenlight to a new W-league team they would inadvertently signal the rest of the bidders who they favour for likely expansion whilst giving these guy 1 foot in the door. Finally the FFA had a logical decision On the money. Imagine the uproar if the subsequent A-League bid was overlooked. How long would the consortium continue to bankroll a W-League side then? Bingo
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Ray Gatt tweet
Everyone forgetting that the Mariners will field a WL team next season so no room for southern expansion WL side
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+x+x+xSeems to me if FFA give the greenlight to a new W-league team they would inadvertently signal the rest of the bidders who they favour for likely expansion whilst giving these guy 1 foot in the door. Finally the FFA had a logical decision On the money. Imagine the uproar if the subsequent A-League bid was overlooked. How long would the consortium continue to bankroll a W-League side then? Bingo Amen soul sister
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Is never going to happen unless Melb City fold or CCM fold, Wellington have a 10 year licence so that saves them. They can just wait until the next TV deal comes.
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+xIs never going to happen unless Melb City fold or CCM fold, Wellington have a 10 year licence so that saves them. They can just wait until the next TV deal comes. Doubt a club that will clear up to 20 million pure profit on one player transfer is going to fold any time soon. And you really need to get your head around the fact the Phoenix don't have a 10 year license. They have a 4 year probationary period on a conditional 4+3+3 year license and they delivered -25% attendances in the first year. Your club's complacency on the issue is what will kill it in 3 years.
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+x+xIs never going to happen unless Melb City fold or CCM fold, Wellington have a 10 year licence so that saves them. They can just wait until the next TV deal comes. And you really need to get your head around the fact the Phoenix don't have a 10 year license. They have a 4 year probationary period on a conditional 4+3+3 year license and they delivered -25% attendances in the first year. Your club's complacency on the issue is what will kill it in 3 years. True and I would add blaming every issue they have is caused by Aussie bias....
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Wellington gone in 2020 with the AFC to kill their ability to compete in an AFC competition.
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+x+xIs never going to happen unless Melb City fold or CCM fold, Wellington have a 10 year licence so that saves them. They can just wait until the next TV deal comes. Doubt a club that will clear up to 20 million pure profit on one player transfer is going to fold any time soon. And you really need to get your head around the fact the Phoenix don't have a 10 year license. They have a 4 year probationary period on a conditional 4+3+3 year license and they delivered -25% attendances in the first year. Your club's complacency on the issue is what will kill it in 3 years. They will be gone before that. The owners will see that they can't meet the FFA 'metrics' at the end of the 4 years and will negotiate a payout to bow out and allow for a 3rd team when expansion happens.
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