I should clarify I'll drink any beer

Yoinks, Carton of something German it is

Yeah I'm up for a carton.

Although according to a Google search their is only one place to get the alcoholic Holsten in Australia.

If that is the case, how about we just make it a more accessible German beer?

I'll let you decide because I'll drink anything with alcohol content.

Holsten brewery is just down the road from the big game

I'll shout a case of the Pilsner


or there's a 0% version for some unknown reason

Hmmmmmmmm

Would having to post an apology for supporting a shit German team in a hundred threads get a ban ?

A ban ain't happening.
Think of something more interactive.

yeah a ban sounds good. I can't think of anything as entertaining as the last one.

Hahahaha

Just looked at last weekends game

Hamburger equalised in the 92nd minute, then Schalke had a goal disallowed AFTER that (for interference that Timmy would've got away with)
http://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/Bundesliga/schalke-hamburg-line-ups-and-statistics-443726.jsp


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bigpoppas definitely rooted

got any wager ideas ?  Get pv4 to ban the loser for a week ?

57,000 Capacity

I highly implore TYST & bigpoppa to put some form of wager on this game. 

Was super, super stoked with the outcome of the last wager this thread saw. 

Stop Hiding Bigpoppa





Come out and Fight me

#bundeswatch

Sorry I've been useless the last couple of weeks. 

Sokorny's FC Leckie are relegated :'(

This weekend throws up what has to be the most important & tense matchup in Practice Relegation Battle Thread history!

TYST/milan's Hamburglars host bigpoppa's Wolfsburg, the loser of which will almost certainly be relegated!

Kickoff, according to google, is 11:30pm Novocastria Standard Time (NST) this upcoming Saturday. How to watch? I have no idea :lol:

Here is the scenarios possible:
- bigpoppa's Wolfsburg win by any score = TYST/milan are into the relegation playoff!
- it is a draw = TYST/milan are into the relegation playoff!
- TYST/milan's Hamburglars win = bigpoppa's Wolfsburg are most likely into the relegation playoff, depending on results and scores at Koln vs Mainz & Hoffenheim vs Augsburg. 

From what I can work out, which ever team finishes third last after this weekend will have to play against Eintracht Braunschweig, whom finished 3rd in Bundesliga 2. Interestingly, Eintracht Braunschweig just came off a 6-0 away defeat to Armenia Bielefeld (Besart Berisha's former team). The loser of that playoff game will be in Bundesliga 2 next year, from what I can tell. 

Current Ladder:

Unreal! Couldn't have written that script

Hamburglars play Wolfsburg in the do or die match , which of course, Hamburglars will win

When that happens.  Mainz are 99.9% safe but Augsburg could drop if they lose by 3 or more

+x

pv4 - 12 May 2017 11:26 AM

#premierleague9697watch

That has to be one of the most high traffic hashtags in a long time IMO.

#premierleague9697watch

http://www.planetfootball.com/nostalgia/remembering-final-day-96-97-season-coventrys-greatest-escape/

All Bundesliga games take place at the same time during the final two rounds of the campaign.

2 Simultaneous weeks !

That's Germans for ya

http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2017/05/11/leckie-locked-bundesliga-relegation-battle-royale

A shocking tale of Indian chicken farmers, a secret lawsuit, interfering agents and gold-plated taps... so, who is guilty of trashing Blackburn?

Blackburn Rovers' demise has involved agents profiteering, perceived treachery, a bitter secret lawsuit, Gary Neville's 'Teletubbbies' house, baffled managers, jaw-dropping contracts and fan revolt. And that was just year one.

It should serve as a cautionary lesson about governance. History says it won't be heeded.

As Rovers teeter on the brink, 90 minutes from England's third tier and the first Premier League winners to fall so far, it can be revealed their 2010 takeover was subject to a formal Football Association investigation for years. Technically it could be re-opened.

That probe didn't focus on the Indian owners, headed by Anuradha Desai. Rather the FA looked at agent Jerome Anderson, his firm SEM, and global agency Kentaro.

SEM, now being liquidated, were corporate partners of Kentaro, now defunct themselves and under investigation in relation to the FIFA scandal. Kentaro were also commercial partners of the FA.

The Premier League winners of 1995 are the odds-on favourites to go down on Sunday. It's them, Nottingham Forest or Birmingham but Rovers' fate is not in their own hands.

In some senses, it has not been for years. This newspaper has chronicled the 'Venky's years' from the start. As the only writer to travel to Pune to meet the Rao family, I visited their mansion, saw their collection of 74 luxury cars, had privileged access to their business empire to properly assess their £2billion-plus fortune and got to know them.

A few insights into their world may shed light. One afternoon in July 2011 my phone rings. It is Mrs Desai. 'Shall we buy Raul from Schalke in Germany?' she asks. The Spaniard was available, perhaps for nothing, on around £6m a year.

'If you don't trust your manager or CEO, get replacements you do trust to help,' I told her, not for the first time. She pressed for advice so I said Raul was unhappy because he rated his then manager, Ralf Rangnick, as not 'high-profile' enough. 'He's hardly going to rate Steve Kean,' I added. I said if she had £6m to spend, maybe Reading's Shane Long, age 24 and available for around £4.5m, might be a better fit. Mrs Desai thanked me, then made an offer for Raul which he rejected. Long went to West Brom.

The perception of Venky's as remote and uncaring was prevalent but early on at least, they cared. Before a match at Wolves in 2011, one of Mrs Desai's brothers, Venky Rao, texted seeking a suitable temple near Molineux to pray, pre-match. Rovers won 3-2 and stayed up.

Enamoured with England, buzzing with the escape, Venky's pondered opening a fast-food chicken outlet in London's Leicester Square, undeterred by £16m for small premises. That went on hold as football matters went downhill and costs spiralled.

They remained generous to those who helped them and while Premier League bigwigs were thrilled to receive Harrods hampers, Rovers' youth team were not so thrilled to be told to deliver them in vans.

Venky Rao asked me to meet him in summer 2011 at a Park Lane hotel. We took his limo around the corner to dinner at another five-star hotel. He confided they had bought a house. 'From a footballer, Gary Neville,' he said. 'For around £6m.' An architect was flown from India to make changes to the bathrooms, gold-plating them. The house was used less than envisaged as the atmosphere became hostile. The Rao brothers left a game at Wigan at half-time, spooked, and Venky Rao felt especially vulnerable because he'd been the victim of an attempted kidnap.

So why was Mrs Rao asking me for transfer advice in the first place? Because her faith in highly-paid football 'experts' was destroyed within months.

Anderson was one advisor, talking openly about being based at the training ground through January 2011's transfer window. He had also been involved, for a fee, in the introduction of Venky's to the Jack Walker Trust in 2010.

Separately, the day that takeover was complete, a contract came into play whereby Kentaro provided Venky's with 'consultancy services' including the hiring and firing of managers and players.

By spring 2011, Venky's believed they'd taken the wrong path. Anderson was put 'on the outside' and Venky's kept Kean on but embarked on a bitter secret legal dispute against Kentaro.

In March 2011 the FA had written asking who was running Blackburn. The Rovers secretary, Andrew Pincher, wrote to the FA's head of integrity, David Newton, to disclose the Kentaro contract.

Pincher also confided to the FA that Venky's received consultancy services on their takeover from Brunei-based firm Crescendo Sports Limited. He wrote: 'An officer of SEM Limited, Jerome Anderson, has a connection with Crescendo.' 

Anderson's alleged involvement was a potential conflict of interest if acting both for a potential buyer of a club and the seller. He denied any link to Crescendo or any involvement in Kentaro's contract with Venky's.

The FA considered whether Anderson contravened regulations prohibiting agents from influencing club affairs. He denied the sacking of Sam Allardyce and hiring of Kean were his ideas, and said the signing of SEM players including his son, Myles, were nothing to do with him.

Allardyce in his autobiography last year provided new insight to the period around his sacking by saying it was clear from the start: 'Anderson was going to have a big say in the running of the club'. Anderson had summoned Allardyce to London early in Venky's tenure to present him with a list of players Anderson wanted Allardyce to sign. Allardyce declined.

Anderson said Rovers' owners signed off all decisions, and they did. For example, they sanctioned the signing of young striker Ruben Rochina for £400,000, with £1.65m paid to his agent, Manuel Salamanca Ferrer. Anderson admitted working on the deal but said he never received a penny.

As Blackburn were relegated to the Championship in 2012, Mrs Desai trusted nobody but employees from home. One of them, a trainee hatcheries manager, was even sent to France to knock on club doors to inquire about transfer targets, in order to avoid rip-off agents. The ploy failed.

Mrs Desai and her brothers were embarrassed by what was happening. 'Mortified and ashamed,' says one source. They were loathe to admit being so naive to let third parties effectively run their club, and reticent to complain to the authorities. 'Our club, our fault,' is how they themselves saw it.

The MoS obtained documents detailing Venky's legal battle with Kentaro, a fight both sides wanted kept secret. I took them to the FA's head of integrity, Newton, spreading them across his desk at Wembley Stadium in 2012.

'Where the hell did you get these?' he said, incredulous. He had no idea a club under the FA's jurisdiction was at war with an FA commercial partner. No action was taken.

Venky's settled out of court with Kentaro after several years.

So chaotic did matters become after Blackburn's relegation that a later manager phoned me on a Sunday morning to ask me what was going on at the club he was working for. 'Anyone's guess,' I said.

On and on the soap opera goes. Whatever happens on Sunday, it will run a while yet.

And the FA seem as far as ever from having effective structures around fit and proper owners and fit and proper de facto control of clubs.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4480682/Who-guilty-trashing-historic-club-like-Blackburn.html#ixzz4gXc0mIrk 

Burnley fans loving it

Palermo, who have employed five different coaches this season, were finally relegated after drawing 1-1 at Chievo 

Palermo earned a stay of execution with a 2-0 win over Fiorentina last week but there was no escape this time even after Edoardo Goldaniga scored a late equaliser to cancel out Sergio Pellissier's penalty.

The Sicilians, who are one off the bottom with 20 points, were left 12 adrift of safety with three games to play after Empoli beat Bologna 3-1.

Would you work for this man ?




Paul Baccaglini confirms Palermo have “already contacted various sporting directors and Coaches” to rebuild after imminent relegation.

“The A Project is unfortunately coming to an end, but the B Project requires a director of sport and Coach who know how to win the second division,” President Baccaglini told Il Giornale di Sicilia.

“In no uncertain terms, we must work on getting straight back into Serie A and creating a team that has technical quality.

“There will definitely be a revolution, but the squad will be very competitive and hopefully manage to win the title with a few rounds to spare.

“We have already contacted various sporting directors and Coaches, we are explaining our project to find the right person. These things cannot just be improvised.”

#bundeswatch

Now that the English Championship is wrapped up, all eyes are on the Bundesliga (sif they weren't already!). 

Detailed results to follow, but summary is:
- bigpoppa's Wolfies had a monster result, whilst TYST/milan's Hamburglars did the bare minimum.
- pv4's Werder gave him his first taste of defeat, and he does not like it.
- sokorny's FC Leckie got a draw. Yet to work out what that means in the grand scheme of things. 

Stay tuned!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FOREST!

TYST with the biggest sigh of relief that I didn't double up our bet :lol:

argh