National second division is kicking off with or without FFA


National second division is kicking off with or without FFA

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Fury are gone 


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yay more Uniteds
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Holding Bidfielder - 16 Dec 2017 10:26 PM
> South Melbourne
> Heidelberg United
> Melbourne Knights
> Hume City
> South West Sydney Lions
> Inner-West Tigers
> Blacktown City
> Manly United
> Wollongong Wolves
> Sunshine Coast Fire
> Cairns FC
> Northern Fury
> Adelaide City
> West Adelaide
> Brisbane Strikers
> Western Pride

16 teams that have indicated their desire to join the second division or are directly eligible based on the criteria released by the AAFC. Just an idea of what it would look like based on what we know so far.


Gold Coast United have
South Hobart have an ambition
Marconi one can assume
Sydney Olympic also
WA FA wanted a team in the AL, they may chose to enter the Championship
Brisbane City may apply if their AL bid is unsuccessful. 

No NNSW will apply imo and its doubtful ACT unless they can get a big backer for one of the clubs. 
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RedshirtWilly - 16 Dec 2017 10:33 PM
yay more Uniteds

South Mel 
South West Syd
Inner West Tigers
West- Sydn Wanders
West Adel
Western Pride


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scott21 - 16 Dec 2017 10:38 PM
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South Mel 
South West Syd
Inner West Tigers
West- Sydn Wanders
West Adel
Western Pride


ahhh...... alright
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Act are waiting for criteria to be released from what i understand. After we came so close and got burned a lot of public goodwill was lost so they dont want to repeat that again.
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Redcarded - 17 Dec 2017 9:06 AM
Act are waiting for criteria to be released from what i understand. After we came so close and got burned a lot of public goodwill was lost so they dont want to repeat that again.

Good to hear tbh


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In what capacity?
Olympic, Men's section of W-League team, other existing NPL team, new entity?
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South Hobarts Darcy St ground doesn't have capacity but have heard the potential for North Hobart Oval thrown around.

Yes cringe all you want it's an oval but I'll say it again it's the same length and width fence to fence as Lakeside(including the running track).

I though I read somewhere selectfew that AAFC were having another meeting with FFA either the week just gone or next. Assume it's next as there was no press release that AAFC.

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http://dailyfootballshow.com/lets-get-it-sorted-simon-hill-reveals-his-wish-list-for-australian-football-in-2018/

Agree with Hill except that we need to wait for a 2nd division. It can be set up now. 
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bigpoppa - 17 Dec 2017 12:01 PM
South Hobarts Darcy St ground doesn't have capacity but have heard the potential for North Hobart Oval thrown around. Yes cringe all you want it's an oval but I'll say it again it's the same length and width fence to fence as Lakeside(including the running track). I though I read somewhere selectfew that AAFC were having another meeting with FFA either the week just gone or next. Assume it's next as there was no press release that AAFC.

South Hobart shouldn't rush into agreements it can't sustain. They can grow in their own time. Darcy St is fine. If they need to upgrade, upgrade Darcy st. 


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@select.

No room at Darcy St to expand.

They'd get a good deal at North Hobart, councils desperate for summer tenants. KGV would be okay aswell.
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AAFC News: Christmas Edition 2017

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21 December 2017

Season's Greetings. 

This time 12 months ago, the Association of Australian Football Clubs (AAFC) didn't exist. 

Thanks to the perseverance and commitment of some passionate football people in Victoria, the first steps towards forming the AAFC were taken in February; the first AAFC Board, comprising representatives from every state-based football federation other than the NT, was elected in July; and we end the year with the some real achievements and good news. All this, amongst what can only be described as rapidly shifting scenarios at the top level of football. 

These are the highlights since we last wrote.

  • FIFA has made it abundantly clear in their communication after FFA's AGM, which failed to reach consensus, that AAFC is to be included in the discussions/ negotiations next year about the composition of the FFA Congress. This is a terrific outcome to help us ensure that the views of our member NPL clubs are given a seat at the table and a voice at football's decision-making body in Australia. We are looking forward to meeting with FIFA, the Asian Football Confederation, FFA, the A-League clubs, the PFA and the state federations again when FIFA and AFC are here.
  • Despite the FFA CEO's initial public reaction towards The Championship Australia, FFA agreed to meet with us to discuss next steps to the implementation of a national second division. We are delighted that FFA executives are to join us as members of a Championship Working Group, together with the President of the NSW federation, Anter Isaac, and a Board member of the Victorian federation. For AAFC, the working group will include Rabieh Krayem (North Queensland), Christo Patsan (Northern NSW) and Gino Marra (Sydney).
  • We also spoke with FFA about another big concern of our members: the cost structure of the NPL and, in particular, the impact on the costs for children. Suffice to say, there's somewhat of a learning curve for FFA on this issue but we came away from the discussion satisfied that they had a better understanding of the issues. We will be continuing to address this as part of the working group's program also.
  • Finally, we spoke about a National Youth Championship for NPL clubs to be held for the first time in 2019. This is the brain child of former Technical Director of Brisbane Roar, Ken Stead. We are working closely with him on the design and management of the championship. (See further information below). We wanted to raise this with FFA firstly, so we can obtain their approval to run it, in accordance with FIFA Statutes, and secondly, so they can consider how this tournament can fit into the elite development pathway. 
 

​About the National Youth Championship for NPL clubs

Planning is still in the early stages, but so you can figure this into your planning for 2019, here are some of the key features.

  • April 2019 school holidays
  • U-13, U-15, U-17 girls
  • U-14, U-15, U-16 boys
  • Sunshine Coast for girls
  • Gold Coast for boys
 

Members' survey 

Thank you to all clubs that have completed the members' survey so far. 

If you haven't already done so, could you please do it before the end of the year? The purpose of the survey is to assist the AAFC Board in continuing to advocate for and pursue other issues - such as the ones we identify above. 

You can find the survey here

 

Finally, however you celebrate at this time of year, best wishes for the festive season and a happy, healthy and safe new year. We look forward to working with you to help advance football in Australia in 2018. 

Merry Christmas | Eid Mubarak | Joyous Kwanzaa | Happy Hanukkah

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Sunny/Gold Coast for a National comp?

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scott21 - 20 Dec 2017 10:39 PM
http://dailyfootballshow.com/lets-get-it-sorted-simon-hill-reveals-his-wish-list-for-australian-football-in-2018/

Agree with Hill except that we need to wait for a 2nd division. It can be set up now. 

Exactly

The belief that we must wait for a second division is more of an expectation than an obstacle




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3000 is capacity (not seats). Correct, a 2nd tier will help to influence the upgrade of facilities to grow the code’s footprint across Aust. We are actively working with FFA & Feds on 2nd Tier & on reducing costs of junior participation.
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scott21 - 6 Jan 2018 6:51 PM
AAFCAAFC@AAFClubs·5m3000 is capacity (not seats). Correct, a 2nd tier will help to influence the upgrade of facilities to grow the code’s footprint across Aust. We are actively working with FFA & Feds on 2nd Tier & on reducing costs of junior participation.

Plz. 


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“A 2nd tier will help to influence the upgrade of facilities to grow the code’s footprint across Aust”

^ This so much 😂
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Finally.

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paulbagzFC - 6 Jan 2018 7:14 PM
Finally.

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This will put to bed whether the FFA want to grow our game or grow agendas. 


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paulbagzFC - 6 Jan 2018 7:14 PM
Finally.

-PB

TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION

November to February
Stakeholder Consultation
19 January 2018
AAFC calls for expression of interest from clubs interested in participation in The Championship
9 February 2018
Expressions of interest close
2 March 2018
FFA endorsement required
29 March 2018
The Championship Bid document made available on payment of $10,000 fee
25 May 2018
Bids close
May to July 2018
Bids assessed by Nous Group
August 2018
Nous Group report to AAFC Board
September 2018
Successful bidders notified
October 2018
Licenses issued
October 2019
Start of The Championship

Timeline - THE CHAMPIONSHIP

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I guess it folds on March 2nd then


Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 11 Jan 2018 7:48 AM
I guess it folds on March 2nd then

All depends how soon FIFA get here.

In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane...
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Redcarded - 17 Dec 2017 9:06 AM
Act are waiting for criteria to be released from what i understand. After we came so close and got burned a lot of public goodwill was lost so they dont want to repeat that again.

Good. Whats the point of striving for something when there is no clear criteria of what the potential expansion teams need.



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Benjamin - 11 Jan 2018 9:21 AM
Buggalugs 2.0 - 11 Jan 2018 7:48 AM

All depends how soon FIFA get here.

In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane...

We all know this won't last. The FFA will shut it down, use it as an excuse for 10 teams for the next 20 years and people will continue to defend the Lowy's. 


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TheSelectFew - 11 Jan 2018 10:53 AM
Benjamin - 11 Jan 2018 9:21 AM

We all know this won't last. The FFA will shut it down, use it as an excuse for 10 teams for the next 20 years and people will continue to defend the Lowy's. 

I've been saying this for a long time now

Without P&R this will likely wither and die

Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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Buggalugs 2.0 - 11 Jan 2018 10:59 AM
TheSelectFew - 11 Jan 2018 10:53 AM

I've been saying this for a long time now

Without P&R this will likely wither and die

The an league is so great. 


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Benjamin - 11 Jan 2018 9:21 AM
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All depends how soon FIFA get here.

In the meantime, FFA are continuing talks because they know if they shut it down without good reason, FIFA is on the next plane...

FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act.

They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee.  Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here.  All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning.

http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html



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Gyfox - 11 Jan 2018 6:10 PM
Benjamin - 11 Jan 2018 9:21 AM

FIFA's recent intervention in Mali might give an idea of how quickly they might act.

They had two joint FIFA/CAF visits for discussions which didn't resolve the impasse before they decided to set up a normalisation committee and the NC was given 4 months to review the constitution, identify the true stakeholder representatives, and organise and hold elections for the executive committee.  Nothing in there about sorting out all the stuff that constantly gets talked about here.  All of that will be down to the new Board of FFA and then they will have to work through the organisation of the whole show from the beginning.

http://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2017/m=12/news=normalisation-committee-appointed-for-the-malian-fa-2925523.html



Fingers-crossed that FIFA puts in a Board that actually actions FIFA statutes, ie P&R

page 73 of the current FIFA statutes.
Under “Sporting Integrity” in “The Regulations Governing the Application of the Statutes,”
Article 9.1 reads:
“A club’s entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend principally on sporting merit.
A club shall qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of a season.”



Closed HAL is failing with 10 teams
Closed HAL failed with 11
FFA forced to try a 12 team Closed HAL thatll just create 2 more mid table also-rans
and still this weird 16-team panacea gets trotted out. 
Theres a sticky for this nonsense
https://forum.insidesport.com.au/1617388/The-Aleague-Expansion-Thread

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