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johnszasz - 18 Jun 2019 8:47 AM
Japan vs Chile in 15min. A near Olympic team look for Japan at this tournament. They're regenerating correctly. 

Cheers for the heads up - time to put one of my monitors at work to good use
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Japan vs Chile in 15min. A near Olympic team look for Japan at this tournament. They're regenerating correctly. 
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zord - 17 Jun 2019 2:29 PM
johnszasz - 17 Jun 2019 10:20 AM

I think Qatar has somehow all of a sudden left us for dead. They're getting great results on a consistent basis and we are now rubbish now that Cahill is gone and can't score. 

Who remembers our first WCQ match under pim against Qatar at docklands stadium where we blew them away and were 3-0 up at halftime. I even remember Fozzie saying they were rubbish and were Oceania standard! Lol

Oh dear, who could have envisioned this 11 years later. What are we now pot 2 Asia standard?

Gallop + Lowys to blame mostly or failing to develop youth national teams and  the PFA for getting Socceroos to be overpaid 
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walnuts - 18 Jun 2019 7:38 AM
paladisious - 18 Jun 2019 12:49 AM

That'd be amazing!

Vietnam would be fantastic.

omg! The quotes work!
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paladisious - 18 Jun 2019 12:49 AM
Only one East zone team in Pot 2 being Vietnam, who we've never even played before at senior men's level and would be a terrific away trip.

That'd be amazing!
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Only one East zone team in Pot 2 being Vietnam, who we've never even played before at senior men's level and would be a terrific away trip.

We'll probably get Jordan and be their bitches, once again.
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Burztur - 17 Jun 2019 10:25 PM
paladisious - 17 Jun 2019 8:21 PM

I want to see us play a qualifier out of the Maldives. 

Definitely a better option out of Pot 4 than Kuwait lol

Malaysia, Hong Kong (despite their troubles) and Myanmar are the preferences in terms of ease of access, aside from Kuwait the less preferable options are Turkmenistan, Yemen (who'll probably continue playing in Qatar) and Afghanistan (who played their last qualifiers in Tajikistan).

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paladisious - 17 Jun 2019 8:21 PM
Lock in Iraq/Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Indonesia, for sure.

I want to see us play a qualifier out of the Maldives. 
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Lock in Iraq/Jordan, Bahrain, Kuwait and Indonesia, for sure.
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Asian Qualifiers draw to provide pathway to Qatar and China
Monday, June 17, 2019

Kuala Lumpur: The Asian Qualifiers draw for the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022 Preliminary Competition and AFC Asian Cup China 2023 will be held on July 17, 2019 at the AFC House in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia – providing Asia’s top 40 nations with their pathway to glory.
The seedings for the draw will be based on the latest FIFA Rankings issued on June 14, 2019 and following the conclusion of the Preliminary Joint Qualification Round 1 where Bangladesh, Cambodia, Guam, Malaysia and Mongolia - advanced to Round 2.
The decision on the outcome of the match between Macau and Sri Lanka is still pending.

The 40 nations will be drawn into eight groups of five teams and compete in a double round robin format, with matches to be held from September 5, 2019 to June 9, 2020. Following the June 14, 2019 FIFA World Ranking, the five pots of the eight teams are as follows:

Pot 1: Islamic Republic of Iran, Japan, Korea Republic, Australia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, China PR
Pot 2: Iraq, Uzbekistan, Syria, Oman, Lebanon, Kyrgyz Republic, Vietnam, Jordan
Pot 3: Palestine, India, Bahrain, Thailand, Tajikistan, DPR Korea, Chinese Taipei, Philippines
Pot 4: Turkmenistan, Myanmar, Hong Kong, Yemen, Afghanistan, Maldives, Kuwait, Malaysia
Pot 5: Indonesia, Singapore, Nepal, Cambodia, Bangladesh, Mongolia, Guam, Macau/Sri Lanka

The group winners and four best runners-up (total 12 teams) will advance to the AFC Asian Cup China 2023 finals and the final round of qualifying for the FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022.

The next best 24 teams from the preliminary stage of the joint qualifiers will compete in a separate competition for the remaining slots in the 24-team AFC Asian Cup China 2023.

http://www.the-afc.com/asiancup/news/asian-qualifiers-draw-to-provide-pathway-to-qatar-and-china

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zord - 17 Jun 2019 2:29 PM
johnszasz - 17 Jun 2019 10:20 AM

I think Qatar has somehow all of a sudden left us for dead. They're getting great results on a consistent basis and we are now rubbish now that Cahill is gone and can't score. 

Who remembers our first WCQ match under pim against Qatar at docklands stadium where we blew them away and were 3-0 up at halftime. I even remember Fozzie saying they were rubbish and were Oceania standard! Lol

Oh dear, who could have envisioned this 11 years later. What are we now pot 2 Asia standard?

Suppose it helps when millions upon millions of dollars are poured into the sport, with the promise of hosting a WC at the end of the rainbow too. Qatar definitely looking a great Asian team now, and their second goal against Paraguay showed great one touch passing and off the ball movement (very high quality goal). 
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johnszasz - 17 Jun 2019 10:20 AM
https://youtu.be/TwJCFnD3KwA

Qatar fight back from 2:0 down to draw with Paraguay. 

I think Qatar has somehow all of a sudden left us for dead. They're getting great results on a consistent basis and we are now rubbish now that Cahill is gone and can't score. 

Who remembers our first WCQ match under pim against Qatar at docklands stadium where we blew them away and were 3-0 up at halftime. I even remember Fozzie saying they were rubbish and were Oceania standard! Lol

Oh dear, who could have envisioned this 11 years later. What are we now pot 2 Asia standard?
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Bowden - 14 Jun 2019 11:35 AM
We’ve accepted - Arnie has quotes out there in the media today. Job done ✅ 

this is great news... we are always complaining that we don't have enough opportunities for the squad to get together in competitive matches and gel..  this tournament coming at the start of the WC qualification process can only be  good thing.  Also if we Qualify for Tokyo then this tournament can again be a good preparation for the Olyroos.
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Bowden - 14 Jun 2019 11:35 AM
We’ve accepted - Arnie has quotes out there in the media today. Job done ✅ 

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https://youtu.be/TwJCFnD3KwA

Qatar fight back from 2:0 down to draw with Paraguay. 
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We’ve accepted - Arnie has quotes out there in the media today. Job done ✅ 
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So the Copa America invite is official. Do we still have to officially accept? Would love it! 
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WC Qualification underway. Guam v Bhutan.
Live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDzPRSZLhR8

Danny McBreen is an assistant at Guam.
Lets bring this S*** home Guam.

#SocceroosvGuam



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zord - 9 Jun 2019 12:37 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2019 12:25 PM

Much rather play in sri lanka than iraq

I've got a number of sri lankan friends and apparently it's a nice place. Terrorism happens in every western country now pretty much anyway, it's become part of the global world we live in.

SL is a very scenic country, but has very humid and sticky heat in the low thirties.
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CanberraHarry - 9 Jun 2019 10:11 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2019 1:37 PM

The multiple and coordinated attacks in Sri Lanka, according to security experts, would have taken months to plan. They were of al Quaeda or Islamic State level of sophistication. The Christchurch attacks were only one or two weeks before. So maybe a convenient post-attack justification for the Islamic State propaganda machine but nothing more than that. Of course, both Christchurch and Sri Lanka attacks were disgusting.

Fair point. Of course once the draw is done and the fixtures are set the same people will again have months to plan.

Even without such organisation, like Iraq, it only takes one person in a crowd of thousands...

Remember that away match in the Middle East when someone threw that pyro that went off on the field a few metres away from Holman? It was that easy to sneak in and throw, and could have easily been far worse.
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paladisious - 9 Jun 2019 1:37 PM
To answer my own question, seems they played test cricket games there as recently as 2016, but of course that was before that dickhead did what he did in Christchurch, which was apparently the motivation for the church/westerner attacks in Sri Lanka.

That said, the Kiwi cricket team is currently scheduled to tour there in July.

The multiple and coordinated attacks in Sri Lanka, according to security experts, would have taken months to plan. They were of al Quaeda or Islamic State level of sophistication. The Christchurch attacks were only one or two weeks before. So maybe a convenient post-attack justification for the Islamic State propaganda machine but nothing more than that. Of course, both Christchurch and Sri Lanka attacks were disgusting.
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To answer my own question, seems they played test cricket games there as recently as 2016, but of course that was before that dickhead did what he did in Christchurch, which was apparently the motivation for the church/westerner attacks in Sri Lanka.

That said, the Kiwi cricket team is currently scheduled to tour there in July.
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zord - 9 Jun 2019 12:37 PM
paladisious - 9 Jun 2019 12:25 PM

Much rather play in sri lanka than iraq

I've got a number of sri lankan friends and apparently it's a nice place. Terrorism happens in every western country now pretty much anyway, it's become part of the global world we live in.

Do the Australian cricket team play games in Sri Lanka? I'd pick up the phone to them before going to ask for a neutral venue like Macau did.

Can definitely agree that I've heard that Sri Lanka is a great place to travel, a mate of mine just went there recently before the attacks and loved it. As you say, maybe we should also be worried for the Matildas in France right now, they've copped it more often lately.
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paladisious - 9 Jun 2019 12:25 PM
Macau have pulled out of qualifying citing security concerns in Sri Lanka, after winning their home leg 1-0. Sri Lanka qualifies for round 2 with a 3-0 result awarded for the second leg.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/football-macau-not-sending-team-to-sri-lanka-due-to-security-concerns

Much rather play in sri lanka than iraq

I've got a number of sri lankan friends and apparently it's a nice place. Terrorism happens in every western country now pretty much anyway, it's become part of the global world we live in.
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Macau have pulled out of qualifying citing security concerns in Sri Lanka, after winning their home leg 1-0. Sri Lanka qualifies for round 2 with a 3-0 result awarded for the second leg.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/football-macau-not-sending-team-to-sri-lanka-due-to-security-concerns

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zord - 8 Jun 2019 1:56 PM
inala brah - 8 Jun 2019 10:40 AM

You know that what we literally could try souttar there as just a poacher. We wont ask him to run much just sit in and around the box


Maybe a formation like this with a lot of pace
                     Souttar
Arzani.         Rogic/luongo             Boyle

               Mooy--amini

Smith/behich----degenek----sainsbury----leckie


Just plonk souttar in the box and make our other players do all the running and put crosses into the air for for his head. We actually do have some very quick and athletic players. Try it out against Bhutan or Bangladesh or some shit team we could beat with 10 men at home

I'd also like to try to get Luongo back to being the player he was at the 2015 Asian cup and am not all that impressed with rogic


or spira. 

my philosophy is this.  if you dont have a player that can fill a role - dont have that role in your formation.

when ange went to a 442 diamond (which imo is the best football we played under him) and then into 3/5 at the back - this was an answer to the fact that our wings and fullbacks were by far our weakest option. so why put 4 of them in the formation.  shifting leckie to the right wing back was perfect for that problem we have.

now we have 1 aus striker that hit double digits in any pro competition - on the planet. adam taggart. great start him. but we have another problem 2 x top class #10's. mooy and rogic. so for me a solution is to scrap the striker out of the equation - unless taggart is on.  we have wing that can score. the glaringly obvious solution to this is to play rogic as a false 9. linking in with boyle, ikonomidis, mabil as scoring wings.  we can do this in a 433 or in a diamondish shape.

TLDR: no decent striker available. dont have one in ur fkn formation.

grant----------degenek--------sains--------------behich
----------o'neil-----------mooy------------luongo
---------------------------rogic
---------boyle----------------------------ikon

rogic dies after 55 minutes. bring on taggart or whoever and switch into a more traditional 433 with no other subs required.

 




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dr. bellows - 9 Jun 2019 9:42 AM
In a 4-3-3 I'd go with:

                                   Ryan
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                                 Sainsbury
                                   Irvine
                                   Mooy
Borrello                     Rogic             Ikonomidis



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In a 4-3-3 I'd go with:

                                       Ryan
Leckie          Spiranovic          Degenek          Behich
                                   Sainsbury
                                       Irvine
                                       Mooy
Borrello                         Rogic                    Ikonomidis
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                                   Ryan
              Degenek   Spiranovic   Susnjar
Leckie                     Sainsbury                  Gersbach
                                     Mooy
Borrello                      Rogic                      Ikonomidis
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I think we also need someone pacey in the middle who can get in behind. Giannou is decent but the rest seem to back into their man. Maybe Leckie in the middle despite his finishing not being the best these days. 
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