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Well done to the boys. Looked really slick in the first half considering how long it's been since they've played and the ridiculously oppressive heat.
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+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable Im not trying to bash the Aleague on purpose but you all must agree how much "sharper" players playing in decent leagues seem to be on the ball.
No shit
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+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable I agree 100%. Very versatile, big engine, anticipates well, good brain and passes well. Without being the most skilful player we have he still often has the highest impact. He reminds me in some ways of Timmy, especially his ability to be Johnny on the spot.
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+x+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable Yeah I thought Irvine was immense also.... MOM for me was Hrustic though. Im not trying to bash the Aleague on purpose but you all must agree how much "sharper" players playing in decent leagues seem to be on the ball.
I thought McGowan out performed degenek quite comfortably.
McGowan was superb I felt the same. Very surprising!
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impressed by Hrustic and McGowan. Good start hopefully get more of a chance to see dougall. Crazy to think he was playing at wembley a few days ago.
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+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable I agree 100%. Very versatile, big engine, anticipates well, good brain and passes well. Without being the most skilful player we have he still often has the highest impact. He reminds me in some ways of Timmy, especially his ability to be Johnny on the spot. yes 100%. Throw back to the golden gen Irvine. Not great technically and not quick, does the basics well enough but mentally and tactically astute, and can run all day and is strong. Positionally flexible like a lot of the golden gen were.
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Well the Govt and FA are negotiating getting some home games for the next qualifying rounds. Great News
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I’m just going to go ahead and say it. I don’t think milos degenek is as good as we all think he is. Sainsbury souttar are out best option.
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Special rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8
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Awesome that a government gives a crap about home ground advantage - even though it’s all about sponsorship money flow 😉 Would definitely help Wcup chances still
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+xI’m just going to go ahead and say it. I don’t think milos degenek is as good as we all think he is. Sainsbury souttar are out best option. Yeah, it’s a shame as his club performances have been so strong. Rogic is another one who has had some unbelievable periods of world class form at Celtic that have never really been replicated with the national team in his 47 caps. It’s not super uncommon though to have some players who perform differently for their country than they do for their club. It tends to even out though as you have players like Leckie, D’Aggers, Sains who seem to lift when playing for their country.
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+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable Im not trying to bash the Aleague on purpose but you all must agree how much "sharper" players playing in decent leagues seem to be on the ball.
No I don't agree. I doubt whether objective professional coaches could view the Australian team, devoid of information about which clubs they play for, then use specific football performance criteria and identify whether they play A L or in European leagues. There is also a great deal of homogeneity in standard of European leagues. They are not homogeneous in quality.
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+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable I agree 100%. Very versatile, big engine, anticipates well, good brain and passes well. Without being the most skilful player we have he still often has the highest impact. He reminds me in some ways of Timmy, especially his ability to be Johnny on the spot. Irvine has those qualities you mention, CH, plus he is also a good engine in tracking back to keep the defensive shape connect in BPO. Plus he block tackles and heads well. However, he lacks the first touch and handling speed under pressure to maintain the ball at high intensity over sustained periods - although Jedi had this weakness too. Against better teams, like Japan and South K, his technique will break down under pressure, turning over the ball to the opposition in dangerous places close to our own goal. He might just be able to get away with this as a DM if he has two slick ball playing CBs, like Spira and Sains, at the 2015 Asian Cup. Sains has declined since. Irvine will also need to be paired with a player like Mooy as his twin DM.
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+x+x+xIf I’m picking a Socceroos side I’m having Jackson Irvine in it every single day of the week. I don’t care where, just get him on the pitch. The bloke is so reliable I agree 100%. Very versatile, big engine, anticipates well, good brain and passes well. Without being the most skilful player we have he still often has the highest impact. He reminds me in some ways of Timmy, especially his ability to be Johnny on the spot. Irvine has those qualities you mention, CH, plus he is also a good engine in tracking back to keep the defensive shape connect in BPO. Plus he block tackles and heads well. However, he lacks the first touch and handling speed under pressure to maintain the ball at high intensity over sustained periods - although Jedi had this weakness too. Against better teams, like Japan and South K, his technique will break down under pressure, turning over the ball to the opposition in dangerous places close to our own goal. He might just be able to get away with this as a DM if he has two slick ball playing CBs, like Spira and Sains, at the 2015 Asian Cup. Sains has declined since. Irvine will also need to be paired with a player like Mooy as his twin DM. Fair points about Irvine’s first touch but I think I’d place him in between Jedi and Timmy, as in better than Jedi but not as good as Timmy’s touch. Jedi was positively wooden legged at times but did amazingly well with his other attributes. Timmy was no Messi but his first touch could still be silky sometimes, occasionally surprisingly so - case in point some of his first time passes in the EPL in crowded areas and also some of his ridiculous ‘first touch’ goals for club and country. I agree Irvine’s position in any Aussie midfield is enhanced if a better touch player is nearby. With Mooy, Hrustic, maybe Sainsbury as a DM partner, or in time Genreau (?), there are a few options.
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If Souttar plays tomorrow morning, he will be officially locked in as a Socceroo for life and can’t be poached by Scotland, as he is now 22.
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+xIf Souttar plays tomorrow morning, he will be officially locked in as a Socceroo for life and can’t be poached by Scotland, as he is now 22. And a good thing this will be too!
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+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows.
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+x+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows. Just looking at this with the rankings. Might a perfect Australia run be enough to jump South Korea who are two spots ahead? Iran may not get through which could mean we sneak into seed 1. UAE were 5th in Asia when the draw was made but Saudi and Iraq have jumped them since while Syria should roar through the rankings with their form. Qatar will win the group but they won't go to the next round, right? This means the 5th 2nd placed team will be through also. Lebanon doing their chances no harm of progressing.
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+x+x+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows. Just looking at this with the rankings. Might a perfect Australia run be enough to jump South Korea who are two spots ahead? Iran may not get through which could mean we sneak into seed 1. UAE were 5th in Asia when the draw was made but Saudi and Iraq have jumped them since while Syria should roar through the rankings with their form. Qatar will win the group but they won't go to the next round, right? This means the 5th 2nd placed team will be through also. Lebanon doing their chances no harm of progressing. No in short. Firstly with the new ranking system teams barely move as the coefficients are too low to make any short term difference. We need 2 of Iran, Japan and South Korea to miss to finish as a top seed seeding probabilities are provided here http://www.football-rankings.info/2021/01/afc-qualification-world-cup-2022.html?m=0Secondly there may not even be a new ranking available prior to the draw unless the AFC waits until the completion of the Euros and Copa which leaves little time to plan hubs or regular travel arrangements for early September. again no big deal as it doesn’t change the order of home and away games in September but it does impact who (ie which seed) we play.
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+x+x+x+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows. Just looking at this with the rankings. Might a perfect Australia run be enough to jump South Korea who are two spots ahead? Iran may not get through which could mean we sneak into seed 1. UAE were 5th in Asia when the draw was made but Saudi and Iraq have jumped them since while Syria should roar through the rankings with their form. Qatar will win the group but they won't go to the next round, right? This means the 5th 2nd placed team will be through also. Lebanon doing their chances no harm of progressing. No in short. Firstly with the new ranking system teams barely move as the coefficients are too low to make any short term difference. We need 2 of Iran, Japan and South Korea to miss to finish as a top seed seeding probabilities are provided here http://www.football-rankings.info/2021/01/afc-qualification-world-cup-2022.html?m=0Secondly there may not even be a new ranking available prior to the draw unless the AFC waits until the completion of the Euros and Copa which leaves little time to plan hubs or regular travel arrangements for early September. again no big deal as it doesn’t change the order of home and away games in September but it does impact who (ie which seed) we play. Thanks for this and I think I recall the site sending me insane last time about whether wed get past Saudi Arabia or not.
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+x+x+x+x+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows. Just looking at this with the rankings. Might a perfect Australia run be enough to jump South Korea who are two spots ahead? Iran may not get through which could mean we sneak into seed 1. UAE were 5th in Asia when the draw was made but Saudi and Iraq have jumped them since while Syria should roar through the rankings with their form. Qatar will win the group but they won't go to the next round, right? This means the 5th 2nd placed team will be through also. Lebanon doing their chances no harm of progressing. No in short. Firstly with the new ranking system teams barely move as the coefficients are too low to make any short term difference. We need 2 of Iran, Japan and South Korea to miss to finish as a top seed seeding probabilities are provided here http://www.football-rankings.info/2021/01/afc-qualification-world-cup-2022.html?m=0Secondly there may not even be a new ranking available prior to the draw unless the AFC waits until the completion of the Euros and Copa which leaves little time to plan hubs or regular travel arrangements for early September. again no big deal as it doesn’t change the order of home and away games in September but it does impact who (ie which seed) we play. Thanks for this and I think I recall the site sending me insane last time about whether wed get past Saudi Arabia or not. Unfortunately being a dead rubber for Japan in the last game and our side failing to pump Thailand to go ahead on goal difference earlier on the evening led to the outcome, and those things can never be factored into simulations.
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If wiki is correct, the May 2021 FIFA rankings are to be used for the third round draw in which we are fourth behind Japan, Iran and South Korea, so we'll be a second seed even if Iran slips up in their group. South Korea not progressing is hard to conceive, even if they somehow drop points against Lebanon and Sri Lanka at home.
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+x+x+xSpecial rule may allow Socceroos to stage a home World Cup qualifier
In what would be unprecedented access for an international sporting team, the Socceroos could be granted permission to play a match in Sydney without needing to quarantine for 14 days.
Phil Rothfield
Sports Editor-at-Large
June 6, 2021 - 6:00AM
The Socceroos are planning to host a crucial World Cup qualifier in Sydney this year with government support to bypass strict 14-day quarantine laws.
The Sunday Telegraph can reveal high-level talks between Football Australia (FA) and the state and federal governments have taken place to allow Europe-based Socceroos and an international team to enter the country and go straight into a five-day accommodation and training bubble.
It would be unprecedented access for a sporting team since the Covid crisis emerged last year.
FA would invest tens of thousands of dollars in an intricate biosecurity exercise that would even involve netting being placed around the pitch to stop the ball from going into the crowd.
The game would be played in Sydney, possibly at Bankwest Stadium, depending on availability around the NRL’s finals series.
It is crucial for the Socceroos to get a home-ground advantage in the third round of World Cup qualifiers on the road to Qatar in November next year.
“We have only a 30 per cent winning record overseas but in Australia it is 86 per cent,” said FA chief executive James Johnson, who has led the talks with the government.
Finding a way around the 14-day quarantine rules is essential given that international soccer federations have only a 10-day window in their schedules for World Cup qualifiers.
The visiting players, coaching staff and officials would be in Sydney for only five days’ preparation before the game and would then leave the next morning.
They would have no interaction with the public.
Sport-loving NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro is the minister who led the way – alongside ARLC chairman Peter V’landys – to bring back the NRL after last year’s Covid lockdown. Mr Barilaro is equally as passionate about delivering the Socceroos games.
“NSW has an opportunity to host multiple match days of the third round and I am doing everything I can to make that happen,” he said.
“Covid poses many obstacles but the NSW government and Football Australia are in discussions and working towards the same goal.
“NSW has a proven track record of keeping Covid at bay and hosting major events and so there is no better place to host these matches.”
A place in the World Cup is worth tens of millions to soccer in this country via sponsorship, television rights and participation numbers.
Australia will host the FIFA Women’s World Cup for the first time in 2023. In the build-up there are also talks about the Matildas playing international teams in Sydney under the same quarantine plans.
“There is enormous detail involved to ensure this can be played out safely,” Mr Johnson said. “The No. 1 objective is to keep the community safe.” https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/special-rule-may-allow-socceroos-to-stage-a-home-world-cup-qualifier/news-story/629496e56510b02f86d2485f3936c5f8 In the 2018 campaign both the first and second seeds played home then away for the first double matchday in the 6 team group stage. Australia should be a second seed based on current rankings which are expected to be used for seeding, and would play the 4th seed (someone like China, Syria or Oman) first up. The first matchday is scheduled for Thursday September 2, which is actually the last NRL round, not during finals. I am sure we will find out more once the draw is made in Late June or July. If home qualifiers do happen then Sydney makes the most sense. I can’t see Victoria wanting the matches given their hotel quarantine sensitivity. Hopefully any September away matches avoid the Middle East as those would be much better for us in the October, November and January windows. Just looking at this with the rankings. Might a perfect Australia run be enough to jump South Korea who are two spots ahead? Iran may not get through which could mean we sneak into seed 1. UAE were 5th in Asia when the draw was made but Saudi and Iraq have jumped them since while Syria should roar through the rankings with their form. Qatar will win the group but they won't go to the next round, right? This means the 5th 2nd placed team will be through also. Lebanon doing their chances no harm of progressing. Lebanon will be deserved qualifiers but highly likely to be the 6th seed and one hopes they give other teams a tough match but don’t trouble us unlike Thailand which did the opposite in 2018 qualification.
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Glh37
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If the Stage 3 AFC fixture matches the 2018 World Cup groups as second seed Australia would have the following schedule September 2 - Home Iraq/China (4), September 7 - Away Vietnam/Lebanon (6) October 7 – Home Syria/Oman (5), October 12 - Away Japan/Iran (1) November 11- Home Saudi/UAE (3), November 16 - Away Iraq/China (4) Jan 27 - Home Vietnam/Lebanon (6), Feb 1 - Away Syria/Oman (5)
Mar 24 - Home Japan/Iran (1),
Mar 29 - Away Saudi/UAE (3)
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CanberraHarry
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+xIf the Stage 3 AFC fixture matches the 2018 World Cup groups as second seed Australia would have the following schedule September 2/7 - Home UAE/China (4), Away Vietnam/Lebanon (6) October 7/12 – Home Syria/Oman (5), Away Japan/Iran (1) November 11/16 – Home Saudi/Iraq (3), Away UAE/China (4) Jan 27/Feb 1– Home Vietnam/Lebanon (6), Away Syria/Oman (5) Mar 24/29 - Home Japan/Iran (1), Away Saudi/Iraq (3) I see what you did but that still hurts my eyes to follow. Still, am happy this sacred thread has been bumped. Most of our Socceroos discussion should switch back to this thread now the hub is over. I sincerely hope the Olympics goes ahead and Souttar, Genreau, McGree and Aarzani all excel. They are definitely Socceroos squad players for the next round if fit and in form, especially Souttar. We have lots to be positive about as we move into this next round of qualifiers. I also can’t wait to follow the club performances of Hrustic and Karacic in particular, both of whom had great hub performances.
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Is it just me or does anyone else actually really like this current crop of socceroos and just the team as a whole?
Not saying they are as good as the golden gen, but I get this good feeling when seeing everything socceroos, the lads seems like a good good bunch of boys, who know they arent world beaters but they will give everything for that shirt.
Also anyone else cut onions during the sainsbury post game interview?
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Dan_The_Red
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+xIs it just me or does anyone else actually really like this current crop of socceroos and just the team as a whole? Not saying they are as good as the golden gen, but I get this good feeling when seeing everything socceroos, the lads seems like a good good bunch of boys, who know they arent world beaters but they will give everything for that shirt. Also anyone else cut onions during the sainsbury post game interview? Tbh I’ve never doubted the character of any of our Socceroo’s, but yeah these lads seem like some more good ones.
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+xIs it just me or does anyone else actually really like this current crop of socceroos and just the team as a whole? Not saying they are as good as the golden gen, but I get this good feeling when seeing everything socceroos, the lads seems like a good good bunch of boys, who know they arent world beaters but they will give everything for that shirt. Also anyone else cut onions during the sainsbury post game interview? Yeah I know what you mean, I feel the positive vibes around this generation too from a cultural standpoint.
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CanberraHarry
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+xIs it just me or does anyone else actually really like this current crop of socceroos and just the team as a whole? Not saying they are as good as the golden gen, but I get this good feeling when seeing everything socceroos, the lads seems like a good good bunch of boys, who know they arent world beaters but they will give everything for that shirt. Also anyone else cut onions during the sainsbury post game interview? I agree, a very likeable bunch of lads. Maybe Arnie has something to do with this too. I watched the capping ceremony that Timmy did over Skype for the three boys he knew from Melbourne City and the whole squad seemed to all be very united and enjoying the moment. I was moved by Sainsbury’s interview definitely but not quite to tears. My wife came in late to that interview and asked me “what’s happened, did they lose or is his career over?” and I said “no, he’s just happy to be playing for Australia!”.
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Pots are in
Japan Iran
Australia South Korea
Saudi Arabia UAE
Iraq China
Oman Syria
Lebanon Vietnam
If we get Saudi Saudi Arabia and Syria it'll be immensely tougher. We know Iraq very well. China are waiting in the wings. Vietnam could be tricky. Perhaps drawing Iran would be better as they may give up points allowing 3 teams to battoe for first. At the same time Japan smashing the majority would be a good help.
I just hope this time there will be some more draws in the other games. Saudi Arabia and even UAE kept getting 3 points and the pressure was always there.
Japan Australia UAE Iraq Oman Lebanon
Iran Australia Saudi Arabia China Syria Vietnam
The latter group seems more even where the wins will really matter.
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