ABC 7.30 Sat night straight after Gardening Australia. Atleast I won't forget the footballs on now

This would be good, a chance to grow the game and not just chase money.
Look at other ways to open up resource making opportunities for clubs as well as ways to cut costs for smaller clubs.
Maybe chuck in rights for a national second division as well.

I haven't watched 7,9 or 10 in years and I don't particularly want to start now, if they want to show football then they can come chasing us with a big wad of money or fuck off.

Give it all to Optus. Let them stream it. Optus is superb and I love the EPL coverage on it. 

Anyone who thinks it’s good that it won't be going to a FTA commercial station have rocks in their head. Perception is everything and perception is that if we are not on the main channel of a commercial FTA broadcaster then the a-league looks like a second rate competition.  I'm staggered at how far backwards football has gone in this country in recent months. It’s been an absolute disaster. And it will take us years to recover. Lowy, Gallop and the whole FFA board needs to be sacked.

Let's be honest here, there was next to  zero chance of the A-League ending up on a main FTA channel, and even just to get on the secondary channels, the very best the FFA was ever going to manage was that the FTAs paid the $2 million in production costs, meaning the FFA would get zero dollars in broadcast rights.

That's precisely the deal Netball did (as well as the AFL Women's).

We already knew the FTA's were cool on the product - they didn't put a bid in early on because they were hanging out for the BBL, that should have told us from the outset that the A-League was not viewed as a priority TV product.

And for those who think being on the ABC would be great, are you serious?   That's where non-commercial sport ends up.  It's the modern day broadcaster of last resort.  How much money do you reckon the ABC would want to pay over and above $2 mill in production costs?  It already dominates the multi-channels with programming which costs them nothing.  I seriously doubt they are going to want to pay money merely to get ratings equivalent to peppa pig (on a good day).

If a FTA deal doesn't happen and all games go to Foxtel, it could really compound the effect of the increasingly staleness of the competition. At least with one game a week on a FTA channel there is a small bit of exposure to the general public to help gather a bit of interest. With little coverage on major news programs and increasingly limited general marketing for the game, the HAL will drop off many casual viewers radars. 

But the word is that Optus wasn't interested, and never put a bid in.

locked away on sbs abc?  are people so inept that they cant turn the channel?  who watches anything on 7 and 9 anyway?  mouth breathers.

Agreed.  Some posters on here saying it's a good result if it ends up on the ABC, but these days, the sort of sport which ends up on ABC are the small sports which are not commercially viable (by definition, if you need to be broadcast on the ABC, you cannot be commercially viable).

He has an app coming too guys. 

Does anyone know what the app does? 

O'Rourke is the perfect advertisement for those spam ads that advertise earning X amount of $ a year and not leave the comfort of your home.

if the A-league could get on Nines secondary channels under the same terms as Netball, they should take it. (costs paid for by Nine, advertising shared between Nine and Netball). The AFLW deal is Fox and Seven cover their own costs, with local team broadcasts into Adelaide and Perth - and no money for the AFL.

Otherwise theres what the state afl and union competitions have done. The VFL averaged 58,000 on Seven last year in Melbourne, with a game week Sunday afternoon coverage - and paid a million a year for that privelige (as did the SANFL and WAFL) with the leagues receiving advertising revenue. Its the price you pay for putting what is perceived to be a non commercial viable product on FTA. The ARU and NSWRU have been paying similar amounts for 7Two coverage of the Shute shield.

ABC would be good for a second division, that's about it. No difference to the HAL being on SBS.

Would seem less woggy at least to joe public if it was on abc rather than sbs...

So ,FFA will get $2mill a season for the best games on sat ,compared to whatever SBS paid a season for fri night trash on SBS?
Plus $2mill goes to Foxsports for production costs.Which FTA balked at.
Foxsports have well and truly bent FFA over a barrel.
What is interesting is FFA went with SBS for the last deal,eventhough Ten was an option.
I just get the feeling FFA are on struggle street.Their lack of planning and foresight is embarrassing.

Also - word is that Yoshi is to be replaced by Mr Squiggle. 

It think its just the football wogs though.

Everybody loves Costa from Gardening Australia

Lol.

The promos write themselves.

We can cross promote with ABC for Kids. Peppa pig is a big draw card on ratings too

Costa appears on Dirt Girl World aswell

yeah people are quickly forgetting that SBS paid $8 million per year in the current rights and pay the production costs for the Friday night games (albeit, their coverage is terrible). while the pay TV component has gone up by 35%, how come the FTA component has gone from 8 million to virtually nothing in 4 years? the FFA are killing the game.

This is telling that the FTA price has come down significantly. And while some may say the Pay tv price went up, the truth is it stabilized. Especially when you consider everything that Fox gets and that the price May only include expansion. Which is not happening in the near future. Meaning it may have actually gone down (the pay tv price)

Realistically,  the foxtel ratings have been nowhere near high enough to warrant a regular primetime timeslot on commercial TV. Foxtel could majorly help the growth of the a league by onselling the Sydney derbies to Channnel 9 Sydney, and the Melbourne debies to Channel 9 Melbourne throughout the next TV rights cycle. Even on 1/2 hour delay I think they would rate well on FTA. Each could be marketed identicaly to RL State of Origin, as standalone 3 game series. I am positive that the a league would strongly benefit from this come the next round of TV rights negotiations (2024?).

Bang on. I'd be more than happy with A2/B-League along with Yoof and Womens leagues on ABC with a weekly highlights show.

But not the premier product.

-PB

FTA's would have huge production costs would they? Would just be re-streaming the Fox feed with their own pundits doing pre-game and half time (plus commentators)?

-PB

Faux-elitism doesn't help nor work here in this situation.

Those mouth breathers = money.

-PB

I think the compensation to fox would be at least in part to cover the production costs...."production" is outsourced to third parties now anyway

Yeah so apparently he explained it on DFS. Its meant to synch your local matches with ALeague and Socxahzoo matches so you can attend both. The old top heavy approach. 

So why does FTA want The Big Bash and willing to pay 300% of the current deal?

SBS only paid $7m ($8m?) because uncle Frank went twisting political arms in Canberra. So that figures not a true reflection of value, rather political connections.

ABC1 would now do for me, if that can garner 300k viewing figures that would grow and expand the game but it wont happen without decent pre/post game production. The real bonus will be if this can be combined with ABC news broadcasts and the HAL actually gets some decent news air time 7 days a week.